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Just not agreed to by those now bashing the president.
I think that @ToddHarrisonDC, Director of the Aerospace Security Project and Defense Budget Analysis at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), understands the terminology.
 
double post (The Russians did it. I have 17 government agencies that have confirmed it).
 
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I think that @ToddHarrisonDC, Director of the Aerospace Security Project and Defense Budget Analysis at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), understands the terminology.
I am sure he would have his interpretation of Trumps terminology that was used in his speech. Whether his interpretation matches Trumps categorisations is the matter that is being questioned.

Because Trump Derangement Syndrome is also an unfortunate reality, this also has to be factored into the interpretation.
 
I guess you have a point. Maybe, for President Trump, the word “ships” includes rubber dinghys, and in fairness we ought to give him the chance to explain that.
Yeah that sounds fair.

I just have to go to my politically correct dictionary to see what you guys have there for ‘fair’ now.
 
I am sure he would have his interpretation of Trumps terminology that was used in his speech. Whether his interpretation matches Trumps categorisations is the matter that is being questioned.
And that he his understanding would match the Navy’s Thus we are back to the somehow face-saving idea isthat Trump’s terminology was not vetted properly - or that he was misinformed, or that just can’t help lying like Lovitz.
 
What have the navy actually said?
Cute.
Here is what some Annapolis grads said, in anticipation of the speech.
These are just a few of many examples of graduates of the U.S. Naval Academy making big choices laden with courage and self-sacrifice that come from a history of countless small choices: to be truthful, to stay committed to a code of honor and duty, and to choose a harder right over the easier wrong — even if the choice is contrary to their own short-term personal interests. These are the choices that make one fit to lead.

Contrast this to the personal and professional honor of the sitting president of the United States, who time and again makes small choices guided by self-interest, ego, impulse and immediate self-gratification. He could never do what we ask our U.S. Naval Academy graduates to do. He is a physical coward, a liar and no leader at all.
 
I repeat. . What have the navy actually said?
Have they found fault with the address?
 
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You are arguing that he is stupid and ignorant. Yep, I agree. It led him to lie, too
No, in fact I said above that I would expect such a speech to be vetted by senior military personel before it being delivered. In such a case there would be agreed upon terms.

Just not agreed to by those now bashing the president.
Your expectation is misplaced. Trump just talks. Your expectation that he would submit his speech to anyone for vetting shows that you have not been paying attention to your guy. He doesn’t take advice from anyone.

As to why the Admirals haven’t corrected him - would you? It’s just a few lies in a string of a thousand lies he’s told in public. Why torpedo a career to state the obvious?
 
Your expectation is misplaced. Trump just talks. Your expectation that he would submit his speech to anyone for vetting shows that you have not been paying attention to your guy. He doesn’t take advice from anyone
You cannot survive and thrive in business or politics without taking advice.

It is skill needed to get to the top in both fields.
 
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You cannot survive and thrive in business or politics without taking advice.

It is skill needed to get to the top in both fields.
Once again, you are assuming facts not in evidence.

How many times has a Trump business declared bankruptcy? He bankrupted a casino, where the house always wins!

Who says he’s thriving as a politician? He’s a disaster.

No, I’m sorry, your support of Trump is just plain naive.
 
Once again, you are assuming facts not in evidence.

How many times has a Trump business declared bankruptcy? He bankrupted a casino, where the house always wins!

Who says he’s thriving as a politician? He’s a disaster.

No, I’m sorry, your support of Trump is just plain naive.
Four times I believe. This does not mean he hasn’t thrived as a businessman and taken advice to do so. In fact he would have taken legal advice to declare bankruptcy .

Regarding politics - you might have noticed that he is President. Not only that but he took on the two major parties to get there. That makes him either a political genius or someone very good at discriminating between good and bad options when listening to the advice from others.
 
Abucs, you are still making things up.

Yes. He is very good at manipulating people and playing off their fears and prejudices. Does that mean he takes advice? No. Does that mean he is thriving? No.
 
Abucs, you are still making things up.

Yes. He is very good at manipulating people and playing off their fears and prejudices. Does that mean he takes advice? No. Does that mean he is thriving? No.
I am sorry, I think your mind is closed to what is obvious and it is your hate that closes your mind.
If you are going to be President of the United States and go through two gruelling campaigns with little previous political experience then you have to take others advice on a huge number of fronts in order to get to the top.

If you can’t see that then there is no point talking with you. If you think someone can win these campaigns and not take the advice of others regarding choosing policies, understanding topics, making political allegiances, physical appearance, choosing campaign staffing, campaign scheduling, media appearances, venue choices, online presence, polling interpretation, delivering successful talking points, listing potential Supreme court judges, probing the weakness of political opponents etc etc then you are not living in the real world.

Any one taking on several experienced politicians and then the Clinton machine and being successful would need not to just take advice but be very good in choosing which advice to take in a myriad of different situations.

I am sorry. It is obvious to those not blinded by hatred and TDS.

Best of luck anyway.
 
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abucs, one mistake that Trump supporters make is to think that people who don’t support Trump are filled with hate. I am not filled with hate and I am not deranged.

You have woven this entire narrative of Trump taking advice from others with absolutely no facts and contrary to reports. You are, like your guy, making things up.

 
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abucs, one mistake that Trump supporters make is to think that people who don’t support Trump are filled with hate. I am not filled with hate and I am not deranged.
If you notice, there are a lot of wild accusations of hate, but when pushed to provide evidence of so called hatred they are silent 90% of the time. One poster makes a habit of whining very loudly how be is being victimized by those evil people who ask that he back up what he claims.
 
My data? How about actually talking to people,real people,that’s my data not the data you apparently embrace.
Unfortunately, CAF has gotten a lot like the liberal media. If Trump said “Our soldiers are better trained now…” the left media would say “No. We found one soldier in Louisiana who isn’t well trained at all. Trump lied again…”

And similarly, on CAF, if someone posts, e.g., “Trump’s people are resetting the conference in Singapore.” the leftist response is “You’re faisifying. Not all of them are Trump’s people. Some are Kim’s people and some are media people…”
 
Unfortunately, CAF has gotten
Clear communication is, of course, advanced by the use of quantifiers to differentiate between a a specific statement and a general one.

But that is not the issue that accounts for the press taking exception to Trump’s words, nor is it a significant issue behind requests for supporting information at CAF. Not even close.

The issue in this case is the presentation of conclusions made without supporting facts. The statment questioned is:
  1. [Obamacare is] not supported by a majority of Americans
    Also
  2. .Most [Americans] are overwhelmed by the costs and underwhelmed by what they get for the exorbitant fees.
These propositions, the first in particular, are the sort of things that pollsters measure. I am not certain, especially in light of the various ways that pollsters might ask about “support”, that the proposition is incorrect. But IMO clear general propositions this kind should be supported by facts. This is not an opinion, it is not obvious; it should be supported.

There propositions are not vague The request for information, unlike the strawman scenarios that you created, have nothing to do with quibbling over phrasing.
 
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That makes him either a political genius or someone very good at discriminating between good and bad options when listening to the advice from others.
He’s been running for President since 1980. Only a phony issue like birtherism propelled him to the Presidency. 6 bankruptcies and no U.S. bank will lend to him. Some genius.
 
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