So what about overpopulation?

  • Thread starter Thread starter Lethe
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
Contarini said:
I could write a long post about the meaning of the phrase “common sense,” but I spare you. Suffice it to say that whenever there is a serious disagreement within a society about something, by definition no “sense” with regard to that issue can be said to be “common.”

Edwin
Click to expand...
Oh, go ahead and write it anyway. Don’t tease us.
 
WillieWonka said:
Ah, no quotes to ward off twisting? So, perhaps we don’t know what his opinion was? What did his actions say, and on what quotes do you base that opinion?

Do those who fail to share your opinions lack common sense?
Click to expand...
You’re not Christian are you?:confused:
 
We tend to see the world’s population in terms of numbers and therefore within the limitations of the human brain.No doubt most of us have seen pictures of the earth from the shuttles or space station…all you see is a large landmass and even larger expanse of water…you can’t see people or creatures yet we know there are a couple of billion souls on the surface of the planet and God can see each one of us and knows each soul…we were told to “go forth and multiply”…there was no finite figure put on this instruction yet we arrogantly try to say God’s world is overpopulated. The Divine Plan had probably factored in natural death,natural disasters etc.but I wonder how impressed He is by our (name removed by moderator)ut of millions of deaths through abortion, wars and starvation? Leave the demographics to God and let us use our God given talents, abilities, skills to care for our fellow man.
Lord, please protect us from statistics and help us to count our blessings Amen
 
sinnegam said:
We tend to see the world’s population in terms of numbers and therefore within the limitations of the human brain.No doubt most of us have seen pictures of the earth from the shuttles or space station…all you see is a large landmass and even larger expanse of water…you can’t see people or creatures yet we know there are a couple of billion souls on the surface of the planet and God can see each one of us and knows each soul…we were told to “go forth and multiply”…there was no finite figure put on this instruction yet we arrogantly try to say God’s world is overpopulated. The Divine Plan had probably factored in natural death,natural disasters etc.but I wonder how impressed He is by our (name removed by moderator)ut of millions of deaths through abortion, wars and starvation? Leave the demographics to God and let us use our God given talents, abilities, skills to care for our fellow man.
Lord, please protect us from statistics and help us to count our blessings Amen
Click to expand...
Well, folks have left the demographics to god for thusands of years. He must be using famine for control.
 
WillieWonka said:
Well, were they acts of God?
Click to expand...
No, they were not. God created nature and He may alter it and intervene in it at times, but it is designed to work on it’s own and a terrible act of nature can not always be said to be an act of God. Did God know it would happen? Yes. Did God create the nature that would cause it? Yes. Could God have stopped it? Yes. Did He? No.
 
GeorgeSword said:
No, they were not. God created nature and He may alter it and intervene in it at times, but it is designed to work on it’s own and a terrible act of nature can not always be said to be an act of God. Did God know it would happen? Yes. Did God create the nature that would cause it? Yes. Could God have stopped it? Yes. Did He? No.
Click to expand...
Sounds like an act of God.
 
WillieWonka said:
No.
Click to expand...
I would say eventually it would. Once you decide not to be responsible for some of your actions…you will one day decide not to be responsible for other ones…and well, you might wake up thinking you don’t gotta be responsible for anything! That’s what happens when you don’t have many morals. :rolleyes: * That’s* why God gave us some rules to follow. 🙂

((You are quite a poster, btw! What is your record? Five per minute? :p))
 
lil_flower_luv said:
I would say eventually it would. Once you decide not to be responsible for some of your actions…you will one day decide not to be responsible for other ones…and well, you might wake up thinking you don’t gotta be responsible for anything! That’s what happens when you don’t have many morals. :rolleyes: * That’s* why God gave us some rules to follow. 🙂

((You are quite a poster, btw! What is your record? Five per minute? :p))
Click to expand...
When you talk about sex without responsibility, I presume that means avoiding pregnancy, and the subsequent responsibility for raising a kid. Is that correct?

I’m so popular and get so many responses to my posts, the path I have chosen is truly one of heavy responsibility. But I cheerfully bear the burden.
 
WillieWonka said:
When you talk about sex without responsibility, I presume that means avoiding pregnancy, and the subsequent responsibility for raising a kid. Is that correct?
Click to expand...
That question brings a lot of things I want to address. Pleasure seekers is what we are. Without God’s help, our nature tells us to please ourselves before anybody else! I know I can talk for hours on that matter, but I will instead try to tie it in with what you’re asking. It takes a very strong person (and you can only be strong in Him) to say, “hey, I think I’m going to do something that will not upset God and still be a good alternative for what I want (which is not to have a child at this time).” First seek God, and all will follow. But are we talking about people who don’t know God? That brings on something entirely different, like “let’s please ourselves, and who cares if we are medically preventing new life from forming! After all, it’s only about us.”
I’m so popular and get so many responses to my posts, the path I have chosen is truly one of heavy responsibility. But I cheerfully bear the burden.
Click to expand...
I think it is you who brings on the many responses with your numerous posts. Like a red shirt waved in front of a bull.
 
lil_flower_luv said:
That question brings a lot of things I want to address. Pleasure seekers is what we are. Without God’s help, our nature tells us to please ourselves before anybody else! I know I can talk for hours on that matter, but I will instead try to tie it in with what you’re asking. It takes a very strong person (and you can only be strong in Him) to say, “hey, I think I’m going to do something that will not upset God and still be a good alternative for what I want (which is not to have a child at this time).” First seek God, and all will follow. But are we talking about people who don’t know God? That brings on something entirely different, like “let’s please ourselves, and who cares if we are medically preventing new life from forming! After all, it’s only about us.”

I think it is you who brings on the many responses with your numerous posts. Like a red shirt waved in front of a bull.
Click to expand...
Of course I bring on responses. Like moths to a flame…
 
What we need to be more concerned about is not Overpopulation but the Fertility rates that are dropping in Europe and the US (although it had gone up a little in the last year or two in the US I think?).

The replacement fertility rate is 2.1, that means for every woman, she has to have 2.1 children to replace the number of people dying, or at least repopulate the country so it can just sustain itself. IF you have less children being born, eventually the country will depopulate. So that means for those of you who work in child-related field might find yourself loosing a job. ALL of Europe is well below the 2.1 fertility rate, as it is now, there are more people in Germany dying than being born. Japan has this huge problem too of too many people aging not enough being born to replace them.

What this means is there are less children being born (except like AFrica and Middle East where the fertility rate are still very high), less young people going into the work force and a balloning elderly population us youngesters have to figure out how to support. Meaning less people contributing social security, medicare., etc, and a huge elderly population. Have you evern wondered why countries like Sweden or such gave such wonderful Maternity leave packages?

It is my impression that we just need to move some of these populations around. UK may seem overpopulated but only because you got 680 people living per sq mile vs. US which 80 per sq mile.
 
The thing that really cracks me up about people who subscribe to the “earth is overpopulated” theory are all city-folk. Now, I come from the outskirts a backwater town. I moved to the heart of one of the larger cities in the US, then moved from there to a mid-sized town with a large rural area. I can say that while I was living in the city, it just seemed that there were TOO MANY PEOPLE. That’s because a large population is squeezed into a small space. Of course people think we’re over populated. That’s their world experience. I say, spend a year or two…or ten…living in the country. Then tell me how over populated we are. I do not think we as humans are meant to live in as close quarters as many people in the city do, and that’s why this fallacious arguement exists in the first place.

Now, I do think we need to focus on green energy, and increasing the efficient use and conservation of resources. But killing off people, limiting population, or any number of the ridiculous ideas supported by the “over-populated” is not only cruel, but horribly unnecessary.
 
Whitacre_Girl said:
The thing that really cracks me up about people who subscribe to the “earth is overpopulated” theory are all city-folk. Now, I come from the outskirts a backwater town. I moved to the heart of one of the larger cities in the US, then moved from there to a mid-sized town with a large rural area. I can say that while I was living in the city, it just seemed that there were TOO MANY PEOPLE. That’s because a large population is squeezed into a small space. Of course people think we’re over populated. That’s their world experience. I say, spend a year or two…or ten…living in the country. Then tell me how over populated we are. I do not think we as humans are meant to live in as close quarters as many people in the city do, and that’s why this fallacious arguement exists in the first place.

Now, I do think we need to focus on green energy, and increasing the efficient use and conservation of resources. But killing off people, limiting population, or any number of the ridiculous ideas supported by the “over-populated” is not only cruel, but horribly unnecessary.
Click to expand...
Over population is about resources, not space.
 
tjm190 said:
Over population is about resources, not space.
Click to expand...
And that is absolutely true. However the US alone can feed the entire world. That means that in a global sense the lack of resources isn’t (currently) a problem. Nations are the problem. If the Earth’s resources were shared, and if we (mostly the West, and especially the US) didn’t waste so much we would have more than enough resources for current population trends for a long long time.

Nations, Isolationism, greed, political corruption. These are the factors that the earth’s resources can’t hold up to anymore. To be honest, in my opinion even if drastic measures were taken for human population it would be a band-aid at best. And, would likely only marginally slow the deterioration of resources. The number of people isn’t (currently) the problem. How the resources are divided and utilized is the problem.

Now is we did away with borders, and political corruption we’d have plenty of time to actually work out ethical solutions to the eventual problem of human over population.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top