So what is the difference between a potential and an actual human being?

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Freddy:
I think it’s an immoral act.
Would the moral wrong in that act be more akin to stealing a lock of hair, or more like killing a child? Recall - the mum was delighted to be pregnant.
I don’t know about you, but my wife and I tend to discuss important decisions. Having an abortion would be one of those important decisions. If either of us made a decision without consulting the other in this matter then I would class that as being a dereliction of our relationship.
 
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Freddy:
There was no need for all those points You are simply stating what I have already confirmed.
Sorry, Fred, there is a need. We’ve been trying to extract from you a rational argument that permits killing the child. Your latest attempt was to label the child as “nothing more than the cells, the tissue … of human origin”. Of course, all human tissue is of human origin. The important point that you did not make is what human being generates the human tissue in question.
To say ‘it’s human’ is to say nothing more that the cells, the tissue…whatever is being referred to, is of human origin.
And the last point that you left out, why?
May we kill prepubescent human beings? No.
Most people do not class a blastocyst as such. If you prefer to, then that is your choice. And yes, abortions are legal.
 
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Freddy:
Might be a good idea to make your point rather than asking about legal matters.
Would that be because you think it’s murder, but won’t admit it, because it would imply that a woman who doesn’t want her baby is also committing murder?

If not feel free to state what law you think is appropriate.
I think it’s an immoral act. I’m not the slightest bit interested in whether it could or could not be illegal.
If it’s immoral purely because he is imposing something on her against her will slipping a vegetarian meat is equally immoral. Is that what you believe?
I did the cooking tonight. My wife said she didn’t want garlic in the bolognaise. Hey, what does she know! My bolognaise is excellent. So I put some in without her knowing. She thought it was delicious. Of course it was.

Now you want to compare that with me forcing an abortion on her without her knowledge.

Let me know when you have a sensible argument. I’ll wait here until you have one.
 
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Freddy:
And yes, abortions are legal.
The question is not of legality but a morality, i.e., “May we?”.
Good question! Let me think about whether abortions are immoral or not and get back to you.

OK. Had a think. And yes…I think they are in a lot of cases. What do you think?
 
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Freddy:
I would class that as being a dereliction of our relationship.
Agreed. But what “act” was the killing of the 1-week old offspring Most like Fred? I offered a couple of options.
Apologies, Rau. I’m not following the question. What options?
 
Good question! Let me think about whether abortions are immoral or not and get back to you.

OK. Had a think. And yes…I think they are in a lot of cases. What do you think?
Sorry, Fred but you still only had a “feeling”. A reasoned argument from you is still lacking. Get back to us when you get one.
 
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Apologies, Rau. I’m not following the question. What options?
As per earlier post: I asked
“ Would the moral wrong in that act be more akin to stealing a lock of hair, or more like killing a child? Recall - the mum was delighted to be pregnant.“

(The act being the father slipping the mother a pill to kill their offspring).
 
I guess there would be no argument that a week after conception we have “a human life” (which to avoid confusion I’m sure we agree is not mere human tissue).
And Fred - I asked you the above earlier too. What say you?
 
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Rau:
I guess there would be no argument that a week after conception we have “a human life” (which to avoid confusion I’m sure we agree is not mere human tissue).
And Fred - I asked you the above earlier too. What say you?
I’m not going to keep repeating myself. If you have no question which I haven’t answered already or anything new to ask then I’m going to check what sport is on Foxtel.
 
Ok, the question ducking has now moved to being explicit. Netflix is my poison…
Cheers…
 
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Freddy:
Apologies, Rau. I’m not following the question. What options?
As per earlier post: I asked
“ Would the moral wrong in that act be more akin to stealing a lock of hair, or more like killing a child? Recall - the mum was delighted to be pregnant.“

(The act being the father slipping the mother a pill to kill their offspring).
Do you honestly think that because I am pro choice then I think that having an abortion is just a walk in the park? Then it’s akin to deciding what to have for dinner? Seriously?
 
I’m not going to keep repeating myself. If you have no question which I haven’t answered already or anything new to ask then I’m going to check what sport is on Foxtel.
Is your favorite sport Dodgeball?
 
Ok, the question ducking has now moved to being explicit. Netflix is my poison…
Cheers…
Some Premier League on I think. Better get some coffee on. It’s late here already.
 
Do you honestly think that because I am pro choice then I think that having an abortion is just a walk in the park? Then it’s akin to deciding what to have for dinner? Seriously?
For a chemical abortion what’s the difference?
 
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