Social Justice groups such as JustFaith, CCHD, IAF

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I know what you mean yayi238!

Your bishop really isn’t Catholic. I wonder if any of the priests he has ordained are really priests. What about all those baptisms? If we could only go back to the old days when all we had to do was pray, pay and obey.

None of this communist/socialist stuff where we have to “take care/help” of the poor. It’s their own fault that they are poor. Why should I help them?
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You do realize that orthodoxy does not preclude helping the poor? Maybe you should read a history of the Church to find out just how much *more *orthodoxy helps the poor both physically and spiritually.
 
Pay close attention to the groups that spring up on the sidelines in your parishes and go and take in depth notes. If you find any of these groups to be pushing socialism or bashing the Vatican or the Pope…take a stand and record it and turn in the information. These types are trying to hyjack our churches…and it ain’t gonna work! We are going to fight back…by searching for truth and sharing it with our leaders. Pray and fast often for our church.
 
In an earlier post a blogger discredited EWTN’s Fr. Mitch Pacwa and now I see that the entire show has gained positive feedback from the Pope.

From LifeSiteNews.com
Monday October 5, 2009

Pope Awards Highest Honor to EWTN Founder Mother Angelica and Chairman
EWTN has consistently given high priority to uncompromising support for Catholic moral principles and the pro-life movement.
 
yayi238 said:
In an earlier post a blogger discredited EWTN’s Fr. Mitch Pacwa and now I see that the entire show has gained positive feedback from the Pope.

From LifeSiteNews.com
Monday October 5, 2009

Pope Awards Highest Honor to EWTN Founder Mother Angelica and Chairman
EWTN has consistently given high priority to uncompromising support for Catholic moral principles and the pro-life movement.
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Yeah, but they didn’t give them any money. 🤷

They need support more than ever now, to keep us informed. So many of us in Liberal-Land need the stabilizing effect of EWTN radio and tv!

God bless all of them!
Mimi
 
Tigg said:
CATHOLICS…BEWARE - It’s time again!

speroforum.com:80/site/article.asp?idCategory=34&idsub=127&id=21407&t=Why+I+Don’t+Contribute+to+Catholic+Campaign+for+Human+Development

Credit this excellent video to Mimi!
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Nah, I just sent the info around. Credit Stephanie Block and the CMC for keeping on this topic and getting info to the rest of us!

It’s disappointing to know how many people just want to stick their head in the sand about this stuff, or are just getting angry and leaving the Church. Sigh. I just hope they will turn their anger into action and pray for our Church to get back on track and out of partisan politics.

Mimi
 
Not only have I printed the coupon and sent the site to my friends but I have also sent the site to my parish. The secretary there has asked me if she may forward it to our Archdiocese–she called me her favorite “investigative reporter”. Maybe if our Archdiocese hears from one of its parishes they will be more inclined to pay attention.

It makes no sense to me that our parish can line the streets with pro-life signs on Right to Life Sunday while we’re still collecting funds which are ultimately sent to help fund abortions. The right hand should know what the left hand is doing.

Thanks to all of you–the real “investigators”.
 
We need to find a way to do this regarding other issues that matter. For example…our priest won’t let us have Adoration or come together to pray the Divine Chaplet. We do the rosary and he is not happy about that and won’t let us advertise our rosary group in the bulletin. Wish there was a way on Sundays…for those of us that are unhappy with this stuff, to put a coupon in showing them how much money they would have had if we were not being denied our rights to gather and practice our holy Catholic devotions.
 
jewells17 said:
We need to find a way to do this regarding other issues that matter. For example…our priest won’t let us have Adoration or come together to pray the Divine Chaplet. We do the rosary and he is not happy about that and won’t let us advertise our rosary group in the bulletin. Wish there was a way on Sundays…for those of us that are unhappy with this stuff, to put a coupon in showing them how much money they would have had if we were not being denied our rights to gather and practice our holy Catholic devotions.
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I am simply astounded by this! I would not financially support a parish like this and would quickly find another church to attend. Are you, by chance, in a small town where you have no other options?
 
I am getting ready to transfer to another church that is much further away…but that is okay with me. But I still think that for the people that don’t want to switch because they are old or whatever…they need a way to withold their money but be able to show why. There are less than 15 people right now that want these devotions in this large church. But the 15 should be able to do them and have it go in the bulletin so others can join in. The rosary group has grown simply by word of mouth…thank God!
 
jewells17 said:
I am getting ready to transfer to another church that is much further away…but that is okay with me. But I still think that for the people that don’t want to switch because they are old or whatever…they need a way to withold their money but be able to show why. There are less than 15 people right now that want these devotions in this large church. But the 15 should be able to do them and have it go in the bulletin so others can join in. The rosary group has grown simply by word of mouth…thank God!
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This matter should be reported to the Vicar General of your diocese. He is the one responsible for the disciplining of priests. Be sure you have specifics; dates, who said what to whom and regarding what. If your priest is blocking Catholic prayer groups, that is a serious enough matter to bring to the Vicar General’s attention.

The proper form of addressing the letter is important. You may want to call someone at Catholic Answers Live for example, or search the internet on how to address your letter. For example, you may want to write the address:
Diocese of Your City
Rev. (name of vicar general)
Personal and private
street address
city, state, zip
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You could ask the other 15 people to sign the letter, and of course, keep a copy for your records.

Keep the letter short and state the facts; try not to add your emotional problems to it.
Or, you could try the diocesan main number and ask for help so your letter gets to the right person and office.

Does anyone have a web site as to how to find letter writing info? I saw one once…

I’m sorry you are encountering this persecution. These days, we need all the prayer we can get! And remember to pray for your priest, too.

God bless,
Mimi
 
Here is a recent article from Human Events, a politically conservative newspaper.
I include it here since it shows the CCHD scandal is getting out into non-Catholic sources (finally):

humanevents.com/article.php?id=34070&keywords=cchd

snip:
**Funding the Radical Left and Community Organizers
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Almost all of the grants CCHD has distributed over the years have gone to ACORN-like groups for political activities and community organizing – and many of those groups have been founded or are run by Catholic priests.
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Here are some select recipients of CCHD grants:
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*Alinsky’s Industrial Areas Foundation, the mother of all community-organizing networks with dozens of affiliates nationwide (and affiliates in Canada, Germany, and the United Kingdom)
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*The Midwest Academy has been funded by CCHD. IAF trained Heather Booth, the founder of several activist-training academies, including the Midwest Academy, Citizen Action and USAction.
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*People Improving Communities Through Organizing (PICO), was founded in 1972 by Father John Baumann, a Jesuit priest trained in Alinsky’s techniques.
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***Direct Action and Research Training Institute (**DART) was created in 1982.
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*Gamaliel Foundation, founded in 1968 in Chicago, says its mission is “to be a powerful network of grass-roots, interfaith, interracial, multi-issue organizations working together to create a more just and more democratic society.” Its executive director is Gregory Galluzzo, a former Jesuit priest. It is “refocusing its efforts on wider metropolitan areas and assessing how to impact national policy on immigration reform,” Walls writes. Gamaliel claims 60 affiliates in 21 states, as well as affiliates in the United Kingdom and South Africa. The group claims to represent more than one million people. Gamaliel brags on its website about its connection to President Obama. Obama worked for the Developing Communities Project, which was a spinoff of the Calumet Community Religious Conference, itself a creation of several Chicago area Catholic churches.
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What Took CCHD So Long?
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ACORN misbehavior is well-documented, and it’s been going on for years. The group choreographs sit-ins to force banks to lend to high-risk borrowers. It buses schoolchildren to the Nation’s Capital to demonstrate against tax cuts. It sends mobs to shout down conservative speakers. It raises the dead and leads them to voting booths.
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Parishioners at Queen of Apostles Church in Alexandria, Va., were informed in the church bulletin that in the 1990s the CCHD had given money “to organizations diametrically opposed to the Catholic Church, i.e. the pro-abortion group National Organization for Women and the American Civil Liberties Union.” CCHD reportedly stopped funding those abortion groups after a church revolt years ago.
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Anita MonCrief, a Washington, D.C.-area Catholic and former ACORN employee who personally witnessed ACORN abuses from the inside, was delighted that CCHD finally came to its senses.
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“I’ve been a Catholic all my life and I’ve been a little disturbed it took them so long to realize what was happening with ACORN,” MonCrief said. “ACORN and its shenanigans have been in the news since 2000 and they should have known.”
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Keep vigilant, my brothers and sisters in Christ, and PRAY!

Mimi
 
Stylite said:
Looks like there is more damaging info coming out about grantees funded by the CCHD:

bellarmineveritasministry.org/2009/11/02/more-questions-surrounding-cchd-grantees-part-1/

I wonder what part 2 will reveal? :eek:
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The names contained in this link, I have not heard before. That is why it is so difficult to disseminate information to the faithful.

Our bishops can no longer defend themselves!
Mimi said:
Here is a recent article from Human Events, a politically conservative newspaper.
I include it here since it shows the CCHD scandal is getting out into non-Catholic sources (finally):

humanevents.com/article.php?id=34070&keywords=cchd

Mimi
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Good find! Do you think maybe they’ll stop funding these groups now out of sheer embarrasement?
 
I am new to these forums and find them a little confusing so help me a little. First is LJPgoodwin unequivically Pro CHoice? As a Pro choice advocate at diocesan, parish and political levels I have found the term Social justice and the advocates that use it to some time hide behind the term as being Catholic. Helping the poor is definitely a Catholic and human responsibility. I also serve on two boards which feed and help the poor and homeless. However justifying an organization that promotes and supports abortion is always wrong. Your council to the person on getting scholed in theology followed by a referene to the most UN-Catholic University in the system confused me. Associating any defense of Saul Alinsky with Catholic righteousness is amazing. Help me here.

Abortion is wrong anytime anywhere and for any reason. Calling good evil and evil good is sinful.
 
michaeldemma said:
I am new to these forums and find them a little confusing so help me a little. First is LJPgoodwin unequivically Pro CHoice? As a Pro choice advocate at diocesan, parish and political levels I have found the term Social justice and the advocates that use it to some time hide behind the term as being Catholic. Helping the poor is definitely a Catholic and human responsibility. I also serve on two boards which feed and help the poor and homeless. However justifying an organization that promotes and supports abortion is always wrong. Your council to the person on getting scholed in theology followed by a referene to the most UN-Catholic University in the system confused me. Associating any defense of Saul Alinsky with Catholic righteousness is amazing. Help me here.

Abortion is wrong anytime anywhere and for any reason. Calling good evil and evil good is sinful.
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As a Pro choice advocate at diocesan, parish and political levels
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I hope that is a typo – you did mean to write “Pro-Life advocate”, right? :eek:

I attended a mtg just last night where one of these smaller groups (under the Gamaliel Foundation) presented. Because the presenters objected, I was not allowed to videotape or even make an audio recording for my friends who could not attend. I guess they know me as an adversary (or, using their word, “detractor”). The reason: they did not want me to misrepresent them using any of the recording! (But it’s okay for them to misrepresent Christianity…sigh.) Fortunately, there were a fair number of “detractors” there and we asked some good questions after the 2 presenters stated their goals and mission, one of which is Universal Utopian Health Care - 7 points were made, which, if even possible, would not likely be done well by a govt system or one-payer system.

Also, they are trying to distance themselves from the Alinsky legacy. The one presenter called him “…that Satanist, Alinsky…” (in sarcasm, but I thought he meant it). They cannot deny the roots of their movement, which is radicalism and leftist politics. Couching the movement with Christian ideals (most of which Catholics could agree with), and peppering their speeches & literature with scripture quotes does nothing to hide the fact they are all support the Democrats’ Universal Health Care plans. Oh, they will get a few priests on board, and probably some religious sisters, too, which helps confuse things for the unaware or poorly catechized.

I think you will find it interesting that many (if not all) the leaders in these groups are either ex-Catholics or belong to Call to Action (a large dissenter organization). This is true in my state, anyway. They need to be questioned on that.

A wise priest told me:
Shared enthusiasm motivated by an obvious affinity with a notorious dissenting personality would lead any sincere Christian to deep introspection regarding motive and credibility.
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In this case, I think replacing “personality” with “organization” fits the situation quite well.

What I would like to see is the bishops come out and state that these organizations may not operate on parish property – no meetings, no literature, no signs, no NOTHING!

Until that happens, we laity are on our own. Be informed, be willing to speak up and PM me for more info. There is a flier you may like to use as a model for disseminating information. Explaining just how anti-Catholic these groups’ ideas are can be difficult, esp. if the person you are talking to does not know the faith, or their faith is weak. Indoctrination through the culture of " I’m okay,you’re okay" is indemic and widespread.

God bless,
Mimi

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WHERE is EWTN on this?? They are really not doing good reporting on the vast network of Organizing and the insidious infiltration of our parishes! 🤷 The tiny bit reported on The World Over show last wk only mentioned 7 groups the CCHD is still supporting! There are many more than that; heck, there are 7 groups just in my state! :eek:
 
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