Socialism, not republicanism, is the real extremism

[Veritas]

By Colin McNickle
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Sunday, June 12, 2005

To get a starkly disturbing idea of how deeply American liberals have failed in understanding, honoring and executing the Founders’ republican mission, all one has to do is, amazingly, look at the front page of last Thursday’s New York Times.
David D. Kirkpatrick offers a stellar profile of Janice Rogers Brown, a black “daughter of Alabama sharecroppers” finally confirmed the day before by the Senate to sit on the D.C. federal appeals bench.

Given the liberal bent of The Times, it would be easy to read the headline – “Seeing slavery in liberalism” – in the mocking tone that one normally associates with a leftist broadsheet’s profile of a prominent conservative.

But a funny thing happened on the way to what normally would have been a hatchet job: The Times’ showed Judge Rogers Brown’s sight to be 20/20 while showing liberals to be suffering from macular degeneration…

article from Pittsburgh Tribune

 

[Jay74]

Fantastic article! Thank you for posting that

I was reminded of the following quote by this article. The Republican Party at their convention in 1936 declared: "We favor equal opportunity for our colored citizens. We pledge our protection of their economic status and personal safety. We will do our best to further their employment in the gainfully occupied life of America, particularly in private industry, agriculture, emergency agencies and civil service. We condemn the present New Deal policies which would regiment and ultimately eliminate the colored citizen from the country’s productive life and make him solely a ward of the federal government."

Ironic how it is the Republican Party that is chiefly responsible for ending slavery and passing landmark civil rights legislation (many Democrats deserve due credit, but not in as high of percentages), yet blacks credit the Democratic Party with civil rights, and vote about 90% for that party. I think the article you posted, and the insight in the 1936 quite before the New Deal give a great deal of the explanation.

Blessings.

 

[David_Paul]

The quotes from Justice Brown in the article come from a 2000 speech she gave to the Federalist Society. Full text ishere.

“Big government is not just the opiate of the masses. It is the opiate. The drug of choice for multinational corporations and single moms; for regulated industries and rugged Midwestern farmers and militant senior citizens.”–Justice Janice Brown.

“(I) feasted on milk and honey, milk from contented collectivized cows and honey fresh from the hives of Bolshevik bees on a big collective farm.” --New York Times Moscow correspondent Harold Denny one year after 7 million Ukrainians were murdered in a famine created by Stalin.

"As John McGinnis persuasively argues: “There is simply a mismatch between collectivism on any large and enduring scale and our evolved nature. As Edward O. Wilson, the world’s foremost expert on ants, remarked about Marxism, ‘Wonderful theory. Wrong species.’”–Justice Janice Brown.

“Mass explusions are the only way to start on their (Pol Pot’s Khymer Rouge) vision of a new society. . .The whole bloodbath debate is unreal. What future could possibly be more terrible than the reality of what is happening to Cambodia now? . . .Americans are guilty of cultural arrogance, an imperial assumption, that … our way of life would be better”–Anthony Lewis ,The New York Times.

“I want to suggest that the belief in and the impulse toward human perfection, at least in the political life of a nation, is an idea whose arc can be traced from the Enlightenment, through the Terror, to Marx and Engels, to the Revolutions of 1917 and 1937.”–Justice Janice Brown.

“It would be tendentious to forecast such abnormal behavior (mass executions) as national policy under a Communist government once the war is over.”-- New York Times reporter Sydney Schanberg on the rise to power of Pol Pot.

 

[Lisa_N]

Wow! She is one impressive jurist. Next stop Supreme Court!

Lisa N

 

[Jay74]

Leftist lexicon:

Extremist judge: One who interprets laws.

Honorable judge: One who writes laws.

 

[David_Paul]

Justice Janice is a liberal’s nightmare. A single mom in college, she had a huge Afro and says she was so far left she was “almost a Maoist.” However, she never bought the commie line. That was the social climate she had to deal with.

 

[Lisa_N]

Jay74:

Leftist lexicon:

Extremist judge: One who interprets laws.

Honorable judge: One who writes laws.

One who writes laws that further secular intersests.

Lisa N

 

[Richardols]

Jay74:

Ironic how it is the Republican Party that is chiefly responsible for ending slavery and passing landmark civil rights legislation

Right-wingers are quick to tell me, a liberal, that the Democratic Party and the liberalism of the 1960s aren’t the same as those of now. True enough.

Let me return the favor. The Republican Party of 1860 isn’t the same as the Republican Party of 2005, and while many Republicans in the 1960s did support civil rights legislation, it did not come about through their initiative.

Rightly so.

 

[vern_humphrey]

Richardols:

Right-wingers are quick to tell me, a liberal, that the Democratic Party and the liberalism of the 1960s aren’t the same as those of now. True enough.

Let me return the favor. The Republican Party of 1860 isn’t the same as the Republican Party of 2005, and while many Republicans in the 1960s did support civil rights legislation, it did not come about through their initiative.

Richard, I was here when the Democratic Governor of Arkansas, Orvil Faubus, ordered the Arkansas National Guard to prevent Black students from entering Central High in Little Rock.

I was here when the Republican President of the United States, Dwight Eisenhower, sent in the 101st Airborne Division to integrate that school.

I was here when Democrats who lost primaries complained about being “out-segged” and other Democrats vowed to “stand in the school house door.”

I remember when the emblem of the Democratic Party in the south was a crowing rooster and the motto, “White Supremacy.”

I remember when Saint Mary’s in Batesville, Arkansas was desecrated and burned in the '70s by the KKK, who were protected by the local Democratic authorities.

 

[Brad]

Lisa N:

Wow! She is one impressive jurist. Next stop Supreme Court!

Lisa N

And yet very humble. How refreshing.

 

[Richardols]

vern humphrey:

Richard, I was here when the Democratic Governor of Arkansas, Orvil Faubus, ordered the Arkansas National Guard to prevent Black students from entering Central High in Little Rock.

I was here when the Republican President of the United States, Dwight Eisenhower, sent in the 101st Airborne Division to integrate that school.

I was here when Democrats who lost primaries complained about being “out-segged” and other Democrats vowed to “stand in the school house door.”

I remember when the emblem of the Democratic Party in the south was a crowing rooster and the motto, “White Supremacy.”

I remember when Saint Mary’s in Batesville, Arkansas was desecrated and burned in the '70s by the KKK, who were protected by the local Democratic authorities.

Apples and oranges, Vern. You are speaking of the racist South. I can assure you that vis-a-vis race and guarantees of equal rights for black citizens, the Democratic politicians of the Northern Mid-west and the Northeast had nothing in common with the Democratic politicians of Mississippi, Alabama, and the like.

I would not paint Republican politicians with the broad-brush of Richard Nixon, you ought not be so broad-brush about Democrats either.

 

[Lisa_N]

Richardols:

Apples and oranges, Vern. You are speaking of the racist South. I can assure you that vis-a-vis race and guarantees of equal rights for black citizens, the Democratic politicians of the Northern Mid-west and the Northeast had nothing in common with the Democratic politicians of Mississippi, Alabama, and the like.

.

Really? I guess all of those screaming Democrat parents in Massachusetts who were furious about busing students to achieve racial integration in some of the urban schools must have been recent transplants from Bogart, Georgia. I was shocked when I saw a program on the history of integration in connection with the anniversary of Brown vs Board case. True there was plenty of racism in the south but there was every bit as much of a fight in the northeast amongst the limosine liberal set who didn’t want the inner city kids bussed to Brookline. Same thing happened here in Portland when the Albina students were bussed over to Lincoln, home of the children of privilege.

It’s always a case of whether YOUR ox is being gored.

Lisa N

 

[Brad]

Lisa N:

Really? I guess all of those screaming Democrat parents in Massachusetts who were furious about busing students to achieve racial integration in some of the urban schools must have been recent transplants from Bogart, Georgia. I was shocked when I saw a program on the history of integration in connection with the anniversary of Brown vs Board case. True there was plenty of racism in the south but there was every bit as much of a fight in the northeast amongst the limosine liberal set who didn’t want the inner city kids bussed to Brookline. Same thing happened here in Portland when the Albina students were bussed over to Lincoln, home of the children of privilege.

It’s always a case of whether YOUR ox is being gored.

Lisa N

The culture of ME-ism.

 

[Richardols]

Lisa N:

Really? I guess all of those screaming Democrat parents in Massachusetts who were furious about busing students to achieve racial integration in some of the urban schools must have been recent transplants from Bogart, Georgia. I was shocked when I saw a program on the history of integration in connection with the anniversary of Brown vs Board case. True there was plenty of racism in the south but there was every bit as much of a fight in the northeast amongst the limosine liberal set who didn’t want the inner city kids bussed to Brookline. Same thing happened here in Portland when the Albina students were bussed over to Lincoln, home of the children of privilege.

You mentioned parents who were Democrats. I was talking about politicians. Do you equate Democratic politicians in Minnesota, Wisconsin, New York, Connecticut and Rhode Island in their overall attitude towards racism with those of Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, and the other Southern states?

Racism is one subject where Northern politicians were a lot closer to the angels than those of the Old South.

 

[vern_humphrey]

Richardols:

You mentioned parents who were Democrats. I was talking about politicians. Do you equate Democratic politicians in Minnesota, Wisconsin, New York, Connecticut and Rhode Island in their overall attitude towards racism with those of Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, and the other Southern states?

Racism is one subject where Northern politicians were a lot closer to the angels than those of the Old South.

The problem is, to make the party work, those who favored racial equality had to make deals with racists. Those who oppose abortion must make deals with those who favor abortion on demand.

That’s how you lose your soul.

 

[Richardols]

vern humphrey:

The problem is, to make the party work, those who favored racial equality had to make deals with racists.

Yes, and who won in that instance? We’re not totally free of racism, but racial equality is accepted by all as the norm, even in the deep South. And those who hold to the old ways know they can’t spread their hatred as they used to. So making deals worked ultimately.

Those who oppose abortion must make deals with those who favor abortion on demand.

And we can win even doing so, just as in the other example.

That’s how you lose your soul.

I’m not so pessimistic.

 

[Lance]

Richardols:

You mentioned parents who were Democrats. I was talking about politicians. Do you equate Democratic politicians in Minnesota, Wisconsin, New York, Connecticut and Rhode Island in their overall attitude towards racism with those of Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, and the other Southern states?

Racism is one subject where Northern politicians were a lot closer to the angels than those of the Old South.

Be careful, Richardols, I grew up in South Georgia and have lived in many places since then but none more segragated and racist than Chicago. The racism in Georgia in the 40’s and 50’s was terrible but when I vist there now they seem to be over it. It is worse in Chicago now in a lot of ways, though they are hidden, than it was in Georgia back then.

 

[Lisa_N]

Lance:

Be careful, Richardols, I grew up in South Georgia and have lived in many places since then but none more segragated and racist than Chicago. The racism in Georgia in the 40’s and 50’s was terrible but when I vist there now they seem to be over it. It is worse in Chicago now in a lot of ways, though they are hidden, than it was in Georgia back then.

Absolutely. I saw an interview on Book TV this weekend regarding that award winning book on the African American couple who tried to move into a white neighborhood early in the 20th Century. The author said that segregation is alive and well, and particularly in northern cities. Atlanta in contrast has far more integration of schools and neighborhoods. Northern politicians may not speak about the racism and segregation that still exists but it’s a reality.

Lisa N

 

[Richardols]

Lisa N:

Northern politicians may not speak about the racism and segregation that still exists but it’s a reality.

True indeed, but the discussion was about the period of the civil rights struggles, when Northern politicians, both Democrats and Republicans, had it right whereas those in Dixie had it wrong.

 

[Richardols]

Lance:

none more segragated and racist than Chicago.

No doubt, but I was speaking of politicians. The N-word that flowed so easily from the tongues of Southern politicians was not heard at all even in Chicago from politicians who followed their party’s lead.

BTW, I was speaking of politicians in the North and South generally. You can always find an exception to any position.