Sodom and gommorah same sex what?

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its no secret that many “Christians” will reference this biblical story to promote the idea that homosexuality either played a significant or passive role in promting its destruction. Let’s discuss the matter in full detail shall we?
 
truagape said:
its no secret that many “Christians” will reference this biblical story to promote the idea that homosexuality either played a significant or passive role in promting its destruction. Let’s discuss the matter in full detail shall we?
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Welcome to the forum! Before I could comment I’d have to ask why you included the word Christians in quotes? Would that imply that Christians misinterpret the Sodom and Gommorah account in your opinion?? What is your view that would springboard this thread? God Bless…teachccd
 
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Sodomy was simply one sin among many for which Sodom and Gomorrah got the fire and brimstone treatment.

Don’t have my Bible handy, but in the prophetic books, homosexuality isn’t even listed as the reason for the cities’ destruction. What is listed is failing to care for the poor, the widow and the orphan, and inhospitality to strangers.

I think that if Sodom and Gomorrah’s only sin had been mass-scale homosexuality, God would have been content to let their civilization rot away from the inside.

God hates homosexual behaviour, but if you really, really want to cheese Him off, injustice to the poor, cheating workers of their wages, usury, and partiality to the rich will attract burning sulfur to your neighborhood.

Ezekiel 34 has become my favorite chapter of the OT, btw.
 
teachccd said:
Welcome to the forum! Before I could comment I’d have to ask why you included the word Christians in quotes? Would that imply that Christians misinterpret the Sodom and Gommorah account in your opinion?? What is your view that would springboard this thread? God Bless…teachccd
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A misinerpretation is only relative to a view that may present itself as being alternate. My view may differ from yours and therefore be viewed as a misinterpretation. Some christians claim such a label while being in direct opposition to scripture, hence “christains”. Let’s let God’s Word be the deciding factor on just what view a christain would have in regards to the story of Soddom and Gomorrah.
 
**Sodom and Gomorrah Destroyed **

1 The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. 2 “My lords,” he said, “please turn aside to your servant’s house. You can wash your feet and spend the night and then go on your way early in the morning.”
“No,” they answered, “we will spend the night in the square.”

3 But he insisted so strongly that they did go with him and entered his house. He prepared a meal for them, baking bread without yeast, and they ate. 4 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house. 5 They called to Lot,** “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.” **6 Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him 7 and said, "No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing. 8 Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof." GENESIS 19:1-8
 
Byzcat said:
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Sodomy was simply one sin among many for which Sodom and Gomorrah got the fire and brimstone treatment.
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What exactly is sodomy and where in the bible does it state that sodomy was even one of the sins of sodom and gomorrah?
 
truagape said:
A misinerpretation is only relative to a view that may present itself as being alternate. My view may differ from yours and therefore be viewed as a misinterpretation. Some christians claim such a label while being in direct opposition to scripture, hence “christains”. Let’s let God’s Word be the deciding factor on just what view a christain would have in regards to the story of Soddom and Gomorrah.
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So, do you consider yourself a Christian only by your interpretive views of Scripture? If mine were to vary would I, therefore, be a “christian” in your relative view? If God’s Word were definitvely the deciding factor on any given topic would not all of Christianity be totally united and believe in unison???

The story of Soddom and Gomarrah will only make sense to you from those who relatively believe as you believe. All others will be classified as “christians” and hold no merit. So how a Christian views this story is as concrete as your acceptance of his/her interpretation…teachccd
 
teachccd said:
SIf God’s Word were definitvely the deciding factor on any given topic would not all of Christianity be totally united and believe in unison???
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Absolutely! Which is why i propose that the story of Sodom and Gomorrah be considered in detail in light of scripture. Starting there let’s see where our view either converges or seperates.
 
truagape said:
Absolutely! Which is why i propose that the story of Sodom and Gomorrah be considered in detail in light of scripture. Starting there let’s see where our view either converges or seperates.
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Whose scripture interpretation should we use?
 
truagape said:
Absolutely! Which is why i propose that the story of Sodom and Gomorrah be considered in detail in light of scripture. Starting there let’s see where our view either converges or seperates.
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Hi truagape,

Welcome to CAF. I realize you are new to these forums. Typically, when a thread is created, the author of that thread will posit their views to “start” the discussion. So far, you are expecting everyone to discuss the subject without any work on your part. Quite frankly, if you are interested in discussing Sodom and Gomorrah, you should be the one to start the discussion.

What is it you believe about Sodom and Gomorrah? What do you think the Scriptures are saying? Why?
 
rlg94086 said:
Hi truagape,

Welcome to CAF. I realize you are new to these forums. Typically, when a thread is created, the author of that thread will posit their views to “start” the discussion. So far, you are expecting everyone to discuss the subject without any work on your part. Quite frankly, if you are interested in discussing Sodom and Gomorrah, you should be the one to start the discussion.

What is it you believe about Sodom and Gomorrah? What do you think the Scriptures are saying? Why?
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does scripture support using the story of sodom and gomorrah to condemn SSA? if so how?
 
Byzcat said:
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Sodomy was simply one sin among many for which Sodom and Gomorrah got the fire and brimstone treatment.

Don’t have my Bible handy, but in the prophetic books, homosexuality isn’t even listed as the reason for the cities’ destruction. What is listed is failing to care for the poor, the widow and the orphan, and inhospitality to strangers.
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Inhospitality was not a small matter either - it could mean the difference between living & dying. Hebrews 13.3 may be relevant here​

I think that if Sodom and Gomorrah’s only sin had been mass-scale homosexuality, God would have been content to let their civilization rot away from the inside.

God hates homosexual behaviour, but if you really, really want to cheese Him off, injustice to the poor, cheating workers of their wages, usury, and partiality to the rich will attract burning sulfur to your neighborhood.

Ezekiel 34 has become my favorite chapter of the OT, btw.
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Don’t forget 16.49 🙂​

Or Isaiah 1.10 (my own favourite).
 
truagape said:
does scripture support using the story of sodom and gomorrah to condemn SSA? if so how?
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I think that before we continue leaping around in your dark array of questions we need your position on why God destroyed Sodom and Gommorah. You have an agenda that is quite obvious but you ignored the scripture that I posted earlier. (Gen. 19)

So, my friend, why did God destroy Sodom and Gommorah?? It would seem that immorality, which includes homosexuality as was mentioned in Genesis chapter 19, was not the issue as you see it. So enlighten us “christians” so that we may understand what has been misunderstood for centuries…

Oh and just a thought…Does scripture support the condemnation of pedophilia? Or is there a moral standard regarding our sexuality that permeates implicitly throughtout the teachings within scripture??
 
Whenever the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah is mentioned in scripture, it is in reference to inhospitality. Nowhere, including the reference in the gospels (Mt 10) does it refer to homosexual behavior. Lack of hospitality or breaking the protection inherent to hospitality is a grave sin in Old Testament theology. Homosexual activity on the other hand is looked upon as ritually unclean just as a woman is ritually unclean during her period. Not the same thing at all.

Matthew
 
teachccd said:
I think that before we continue leaping around in your dark array of questions we need your position on why God destroyed Sodom and Gommorah.??
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I think you would agree that it is not my position that matters. In regards to you referencing Genesis chapter 19 to support your “Synn of Sodom” reasoning as being that of homosexuality; that warrants some simple yet obvious questioning. Honest questions that help put the biblical ciatations you posted in the context and setting inwhich it was originally written. I do intend on asking those questions within this forum…Agenda? So be it! seeking the truth shouldn’t inflict paranoia.

The earliest documents that reference the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah are found…(drum roll please) IN THE BIBLE! God himself without pulling any punches provides the first commentary on the reason behind the fate of Sodom and Gomorrah. God’s thoughts are recorded trhough the prophet of Ezekiel. My position should be God’s. And in qoting scripture, here is His position:

Ezekiel 16:47-50 (English Standard Version)
**47) Not only did you walk in their (Sodom) ways and do according to their abominations; within a very little time you were more corrupt than they in all your ways. 48) As I live, declares the Lord God, your sister Sodom and her daughters have not done as you and your daughters have done. 49) Behold this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daugters had pride, excess of food, and prosporus ease, but did not aid the poor and needy. 50) They were haughty and did an abomination before me. So I removed them, when I saw it. **
 
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