Sola Scriptura is Absolutely biblical

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Reformed said:
Please help me understand Marian dogma and non-dogma in regards to Sacred Tradition. The truth of Mary is just that…it is truth before the Magestrium declares a doctrine truth as being truth or not truth. **Since I don’t think Mary is considered co-reedemer **as Sacred Tradition, does that mean the silence of Rome declaring it as dogma mean that Mary is not a co-reedemer with Christ? What I’m trying to say, it seems the Magestrium is always declaring new Sacred Tradition. Truth is truth regardless of what the magestrium declares as truth or not. The Epistles in the New Testament and the four gospel accounts were God-breathed revelation before the Catholic Church defined them to be part of the canon, correct?
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Not sure I undrestand the ‘co-Redemer’ arguement.

As I see it, Christ is God. That is why Mary is called 'the Mother of God [the Son in His humanity].

Now if Mary is not the mother of God, then Christ cannot be part of God and Paul has serously erred in his teaching. Viz; Philipians: 'His state was divine yet he did not cling to his equality with God but humbled himself to assume the condition of a slave and became as all men are…etc

Blessings and peace
 
SIA said:
Oh gee whiz Rob. We have been through this, over this and ran this thing over many times. Your marian dogmas do not jive with Scripture. Your claims of who the pope is do not jive with Scripture and all of the finger pointing you do at Protestants are not based upon Scripture. Show me where they are? This is where we are if you want to make any progress here.
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Jn 1:42; Mk 3:16 “And to Simon he gave the name Peter”, Cephas or Rock
Mt 16:18 “thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church”; cf. Mt 7:24-28, the house built on rock
Jn 21:15-17 “Feed my lambs/sheep” (stated three times)
Mt 10:2 “And the names of the twelve apostles are these: The first, Simon who is called Peter,…” (Peter is first)
Ludwig Ott points out the many indications in Scripture that Peter was given a primary role with respect to the other Apostles: Mk 5:37 , Mt 17:1, Mt 26:37, Lk 5:3, Mt 17:27, Lk 22:32, Lk 24:34, and 1 Cor; 15:5.
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thenazareneway.com/papal_infallibility.htm
There are a lot more passages beyond these. This is a handful- I found a ton earlier on a different website, and can get you a much better presentation if you want it. I wrote that presentation up on my own computer. I’m on my mother’s at the moment.
 
Rightlydivide said:
You do not have a single example of sacred tradition that comes from Christ outside of scripture. Nada. Not one. We have been down this road before. The crickets chirp each time you guys try.
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Here’s a “single example of sacred tradition that comes from Christ” for you:
[SIGN1]The table of contents of the Bible.[/SIGN1]
Rightlydivide said:
Quit talking about my emotions. We are guys. We do not talk about emotions.
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:coffeeread: Lady Zooey here, :curtsey: pal.
And I wouldn’t give a quarter-piece of scrip for any :tsktsk: “guy” with so many:whistle: hangups as to “not talk about emotions”.:twocents:
 
Zooey said:
Here’s a “single example of sacred tradition that comes from Christ” for you:
[SIGN1]The table of contents of the Bible.[/SIGN1]
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That’s right!!
:coffeeread: Lady Zooey here, :curtsey: pal.
And I wouldn’t give a quarter-piece of scrip for any :tsktsk: “guy” with so many:whistle: hangups as to “not talk about emotions”.:twocents:
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👍 He’s just repressed…its an undercurrent in his life and theology…:eek: :whackadoo: Don’t be too hard on him.
 
Zooey;4281181]Here’s a “single example of sacred tradition that comes from Christ” for you:
[SIGN1]The table of contents of the Bible.[/SIGN1]
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Does the Catholic church offically consider the this to be Sacred Tradition?
:coffeeread: Lady Zooey here, :curtsey: pal.
And I wouldn’t give a quarter-piece of scrip for any :tsktsk: “guy” with so many:whistle: hangups as to “not talk about emotions”.:twocents:
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Zooey said:
Here’s a “single example of sacred tradition that comes from Christ” for you:
[SIGN1]The table of contents of the Bible.[/SIGN1]

:coffeeread: Lady Zooey here, :curtsey: pal.
And I wouldn’t give a quarter-piece of scrip for any :tsktsk: “guy” with so many:whistle: hangups as to “not talk about emotions”.:twocents:
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Neither do we use emoticons!
 
RobHom said:
That’s right!!

👍 He’s just repressed…its an undercurrent in his life and theology…:eek: :whackadoo: Don’t be too hard on him.
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I am being repressed. Or is it opressed? I do not know but it is not good.
 
RobHom said:
I’m actually beginning to think the whole thing was a red herring… because if you look at the scriptures the individual posted; to wit:

(20) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the Scripture is of any private interpretation.

Now, why would he post that???
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They don’t even realize that is what they are doing. They think they are under the direction of the HS, and in communion with all the other “bible Christians”.
 
justasking4 said:
Does the Catholic church offically consider the this to be Sacred Tradition?
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Here’s the phone number for the Vatican:
Papal Basilica of Saint Peter - Vatican
General Information: fax +39.06.698.85518

Give them a call… 😛
 
justasking4 said:
Does the Catholic church offically consider the this to be Sacred Tradition?
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Of course! What a ridiculous question. All of the conciliar proclaimations are part of Sacred tradition. the canon was closed in 384.
 
Rightlydivide said:
I am being repressed.
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No, you have already grown up repressed. You are merely acting it out now and attempting to transfer your repressed id onto others.
Or is it opressed?
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If so it is only by those physically within literally arms reach of you. Beyond that on a “societal level”…if you reside in North America, not much chance of being “oppressed” unless you suffer from deeper idiomatic psychosis.
I do not know but it is not good.
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On that… you are right… be careful…you could end up like this guy: google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.premier.net/~cspedale/opus/images/bill2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.premier.net/~cspedale/opus/images.html&h=620&w=640&sz=59&tbnid=1HoR9GR2gu0J::&tbnh=133&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2522Bill%2Bthe%2BCat%2522&hl=en&usg=__zT6aGs5kpVAlrfwi-JC_7s-tTKw=&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=1&ct=image&cd=1
 
RobHom said:
If so it is only by those physically within literally arms reach of you. Beyond that on a “societal level”…if you reside in North America, not much chance of being “oppressed” unless you suffer from deeper idiomatic psychosis.
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Let’s not rule out the possibility of spiritual oppresssion! :eek:
 
guanophore said:
Let’s not rule out the possibility of spiritual oppresssion! :eek:
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Thanks… I forgot about that one!!:eek: Maybe that’s actual malady…he’s suffering…its "rather plausible, and seemingly undeniably in evidence…
 
guanophore said:
Of course! What a ridiculous question. All of the conciliar proclaimations are part of Sacred tradition. the canon was closed in 384.
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You mean that the table of contents of the canon by itself is considered a Sacred Tradition or is the table of contents the summation of the group of the 27 books?
 
justasking4 said:
You mean that the table of contents of the canon by itself is considered a Sacred Tradition?
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Sheesh…are you now reduced to asking the same stupid question redundantly? Or did you spill chocolate milk on your play book…😛
 
justasking4 said:
You mean that the table of contents of the canon by itself is considered a Sacred Tradition or is the table of contents the summation of the group of the 27 books?
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This list of books that belong in the NT, in addition to the entire contents of those 27 books comes completely from Sacred Tradition.
 
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