Sola Scriptura is True

[DD2007]

So all of them are liars except you?

No. All are liars except God. His word is truth. We should all read it, teach each other and use it admonishing one another for our errors.

Colossians 3:16 ESV
16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom, singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, with thankfulness in your hearts to God.

 

[Religio71]

No. All are liars except God. His word is truth. We should all read it, teach each other and use it admonishing one another for our errors.

Colossians 3:16 ESV
16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom, singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, with thankfulness in your hearts to God.

So which version of Protestantism is right? They don’t agree on everything, yet claim that all they need is the Bible, and it’s all in there…

 

[DD2007]

At the time Jesus uttered these words, there was no New Testament–St. Paul was still a Pharisaic Jew and the Gospels could not have been complete since more is recorded afterwards.

Right. And? Do you think that the Holy Spirit inspired the New Testament and it is God’s word? If you don’t you are anathema according to the council of trent.

Christ knew that there would be a completed bible to carry the church to the finish line.

 

[nsper7]

Right. And? Do you think that the Holy Spirit inspired the New Testament and it is God’s word? If you don’t you are anathema according to the council of trent.

Christ knew that there would be a completed bible to carry the church to the finish line.

The Council of Trent is correct, but you are making leaps in logic to come up with your argument.

 

[adstrinity]

Right. And? Do you think that the Holy Spirit inspired the New Testament and it is God’s word? If you don’t you are anathema according to the council of trent.

Christ knew that there would be a completed bible to carry the church to the finish line.

A complete Bible, one with 73 books. But, which translation of the 73 books does God endorse?

 

[DD2007]

So which version of Protestantism is right? They don’t agree on everything, yet claim that all they need is the Bible, and it’s all in there…

I believe that the most error free tradition in the Church Universal is Reformed Theology.

It is a line from Augustine, Anselm, Aquinas, Luther, Calvin, Knox, Edwards, Spurgeon, Sproul. All good theologians and pastors who agreed on many things.

 

[josie_L]

The Theology of the Trinity is implicit all over the bible. The name Trinity isn’t in the bible however the meaning is. I personally am one who holds that the Johanine comma 1 John 5:7 is indeed inspired scripture that was in Jerome’s original Vulgate. He even claimed it was taken out by Arians…so. The DOuay Rheims is actually your most accuirate RCC version of the bible. Ours is the KJV, NKJV, and Amplified. I use the ESv on-line because it is the most respected among modern scholars and I see no reason to argue everyday for the comma.

Jesus was both fully human and fuly God. This is implicit in scripture as well especially in the first chapter of John.

His will is one. Jesus has one will. We see that throughout scripture as well. Especia;lly when he prayed to the Father that the Father’s will be done in the garden on holy Thursday night.

By the way Jesus had two wills one of which was divine and the other human only that both were in accord with each other. You have committed the heresy of Monothelitism in decreeing he had one will. That is what happens when you don’t have a Church guiding you. Furthermore you do realize you owe the Church credit for developing our understanding of the Trinity especially amidst all the heresies. Apparently scripture is not explicit enough on these matters to have prevented these groups from breaking away from the Church (due to their take on the Trinity and Christ’s makeup): Arians, Nestorians, Monophysitism, Monothelitism, Sabellianism, Docetism, Gnosticism. All these groups have one thing in common: THEY WERE SOLA SCRIPTURA FOLLOWERS, when they decided to break away from the Sacred Traditions of the Church.

 

[josie_L]

I believe that the most error free tradition in the Church Universal is Reformed Theology.

It is a line from Augustine, Anselm, Aquinas, Luther, Calvin, Knox, Edwards, Spurgeon, Sproul. All good theologians and pastors who agreed on many things.

But, but Augustine, Anselm and Aquinas were Catholic.

 

[DD2007]

A complete Bible, one with 73 books. But, which translation of the 73 books does God endorse?

According to Trent you are correct about 73 books.

Many believe that the 7 apocryphal books were not inspired as they were written after the time of Ezra Nehemiah.

But the answer to your question is The literal version you will read. I suggest if you are going to read a RCC bible you make it the Douay Rheims. It is the most accurate as it uses more authentic sources.

 

[adstrinity]

I believe that the most error free tradition in the Church Universal is Reformed Theology.

It is a line from Augustine, Anselm, Aquinas, Luther, Calvin, Knox, Edwards, Spurgeon, Sproul. All good theologians and pastors who agreed on many things.

But, not everything. Not the important things.

Ah, yes, Reformed Theology, the beliefs that everybody but me is predestined for Hell.

 

[adstrinity]

According to Trent you are correct about 73 books.

Many believe that the 7 apocryphal books were not inspired as they were written after the time of Ezra Nehemiah.

But the answer to your question is The literal version you will read. I suggest if you are going to read a RCC bible you make it the Douay Rheims. It is the most accurate as it uses more authentic sources.

God wants us to read the Douay-Rheims Bible? So, those who do not read English will not get the fullness of the Bible.

Again, it’s not RCC, it’s just Catholic. 23 Rites.

 

[josie_L]

But, not everything. Not the important things.

Ah, yes, Reformed Theology, the beliefs that everybody but me is predestined for Hell.

Only people who are Calvinists (or are byproducts of Calvinism) go to Heaven, didn’t you know?

 

[raumzeitmc2]

Christ knew that there would be a completed bible to carry the church to the finish line.

Well, in that case, I’m afraid your bible ain’t gonna get you there!

“For the canon of the sacred writings, which behooved to be closed…”

Augustine, City of God, 22:8

newadvent.org/fathers/120122.htm

"Now the whole canon of Scripture … is contained in the following books… Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy … Joshua … Judges … Ruth … four books of Kings, and two of Chronicles … Job, and Tobias, and Esther, and Judith, and the two books of Maccabees, and the two of Ezra … the Psalms of David; and three books of Solomon, viz., Proverbs, Song of Songs, and Ecclesiastes. For two books, one called Wisdom and the other Ecclesiasticus, are ascribed to Solomon from a certain resemblance of style, but the most likely opinion is that they were written by Jesus the son of Sirach. Still they are to be reckoned among the prophetical books, since they have attained recognition as being authoritative.

“The remainder are the books which are strictly called the Prophets: twelve separate books of the prophets which are connected with one another, and having never been disjoined, are reckoned as one book; the names of these prophets are as follows:— Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Zechariah, Malachi; then there are the four greater prophets, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, Ezekiel. The authority of the Old Testament is contained within the limits of these forty-four books.”

On Christian Doctrine (Book II), 8.
newadvent.org/fathers/12022.htm

 

[DD2007]

But, but Augustine, Anselm and Aquinas were Catholic.

So are we Reformed. We are Reformed Cathoilcs. We hold fast to the traditions handed to us and abide by the doctrine of Sola Scriptura in all matters of faith and practice as the binding authority on our conscience.

The Reformers NEVER denied holding fast to traditions from those who came before us, provided they were biblical.

Those who are anti creedal are against us as well. We uphold the Apostles Creed, Nicene Creed, and the Reformed Confessions and Catechisms and Canons. ALL of whome are based on scripture alone as their authority to be taught.

Most Roman Catholics have a fundamental misunderstanding of what sola scriptra is. As demonstrated above it is not what you were taught it was.

 

[nsper7]

Many believe that the 7 apocryphal books were not inspired as they were written after the time of Ezra Nehemiah.

So was the New Testament.

 

[DD2007]

God wants us to read the Douay-Rheims Bible? So, those who do not read English will not get the fullness of the Bible.

I did not say that. Since you are typing in English I assume you are an english bible reader. The most accurate bible you have available to you as an english speaking Roman Catholic is the Douay Rheims.

 

[DD2007]

So was the New Testament.

The New Testament was written by the Apostles of Christ.

There was no inspiration between the time of Ezra/Nehemia and Christ. It ended again with the death of John.

 

[nsper7]

The New Testament was written by the Apostles of Christ.

There was no inspiration between the time of Ezra/Nehemia and Christ. It ended again with the death of John.

Who says there was no inspiration between E/N and Christ?

 

[DD2007]

Only people who are Calvinists (or are byproducts of Calvinism) go to Heaven, didn’t you know?

Untrue. Only Christians go to heaven.

John 3:16-18 ESV
16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

 

[DD2007]

Who says there was no inspiration between E/N and Christ?

There were no prophets recognized by the Jews during that time and the bible says that the church is built on the foundation of the prophets and apostles with Christ asthe cornerstone.