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In Sola Scriptura churches, how can the illiterate and mentally or physically disabled come to be incorporated into the Body of Christ? If they can’t develop a personal relationship with Christ through reading the Bible, or they don’t understand the Bible how do they become Christian or grow in faith?

And what does a person do if he lacks confidence in his personal understanding of the Bible? If people tell him all he needs is the Bible, and he reads it but it makes no sense to him?
 
In Sola Scriptura churches, how can the illiterate and mentally or physically disabled come to be incorporated into the Body of Christ? If they can’t develop a personal relationship with Christ through reading the Bible, or they don’t understand the Bible how do they become Christian or grow in faith?

And what does a person do if he lacks confidence in his personal understanding of the Bible? If people tell him all he needs is the Bible, and he reads it but it makes no sense to him?
I think you’re confusing the correct definition of sola scriptura with the distortion of it known as “solo scriptura,” which is often associated with the goofy old pastor beating a Bible and saying, “This is ALL you need!” You find that in fundamentalist churches or crazy groups, but the churches who REALLY follow sola scriptura recognize that having a 1611 KJV alone does not alone bring about knowledge of scripture.

In the case of your second scenario, if a person does not have confidence in personal understanding of the Bible, that is why he finds a spiritually strong church with knowledgeable elders, leaders and members to assist him in the growth. This is something non-Protestants often misunderstand: the Protestant mindset of sola scriptura does in no way deny the presence of the church, either as a body or teaching institution. The only question lies in where that church takes its authority - from the church itself, or from the scriptures.

In the case of your first scenario, that’s a bit of an extreme scenario, but the salvation of a person would only rest within the knowledge of Christ the redeemer, which even a child can understand. A person doesn’t have to have a ThD in biblical studies to be saved.
 
I think you’re confusing the correct definition of sola scriptura with the distortion of it known as “solo scriptura,” which is often associated with the goofy old pastor beating a Bible and saying, “This is ALL you need!” You find that in fundamentalist churches or crazy groups, but the churches who REALLY follow sola scriptura recognize that having a 1611 KJV alone does not alone bring about knowledge of scripture.

In the case of your second scenario, if a person does not have confidence in personal understanding of the Bible, that is why he finds a spiritually strong church with knowledgeable elders, leaders and members to assist him in the growth. This is something non-Protestants often misunderstand: the Protestant mindset of sola scriptura does in no way deny the presence of the church, either as a body or teaching institution. The only question lies in where that church takes its authority - from the church itself, or from the scriptures.

In the case of your first scenario, that’s a bit of an extreme scenario, but the salvation of a person would only rest within the knowledge of Christ the redeemer, which even a child can understand. A person doesn’t have to have a ThD in biblical studies to be saved.
I understand what your saying, I haven’t had personal experience with Protestant Christianity and I am not exactly sure what to call these different beliefs. I’ve been friendly with some nice people recently, but their beliefs make no sense to me. They keep saying “all you need is the Bible,” “we believe the Bible,” and “our church mostly teaches the Bible, but we just go there for fellowshipping because that is what church is for,” or “I don’t believe in man-made religion.”

Anyways, I’m trying to figure out what they believe but when I ask they just say they are Christian, and that they believe in the Bible. That doesn’t leave me much to google. Do you happen to know what to call these people and what their beliefs really are?
 
In Sola Scriptura churches, how can the illiterate and mentally or physically disabled come to be incorporated into the Body of Christ? If they can’t develop a personal relationship with Christ through reading the Bible, or they don’t understand the Bible how do they become Christian or grow in faith?

And what does a person do if he lacks confidence in his personal understanding of the Bible? If people tell him all he needs is the Bible, and he reads it but it makes no sense to him?
They can be saved like anyone else into the Body of Christ. If they have a mental impairment, the Bible does not specifically address that issue. Our church has several adult with disabilities.
We do not believe that literacy is required for being a Christian. I am curious why you believe that? Could you direct me to a church that believes that?
In general, I am not familiar with a group that espouses the beliefs in the manner you are describing them.
 
They can be saved like anyone else into the Body of Christ. If they have a mental impairment, the Bible does not specifically address that issue. Our church has several adult with disabilities.
We do not believe that literacy is required for being a Christian. I am curious why you believe that? Could you direct me to a church that believes that?
In general, I am not familiar with a group that espouses the beliefs in the manner you are describing them.
Just some Christians I know. They don’t attach themselves or beliefs to a particular church, they just say that all you need is the Bible, and I was wondering how that works out for people who can’t read or don’t understand it. Is this some sort of strange movement or something?
 
Just some Christians I know. They don’t attach themselves or beliefs to a particular church, they just say that all you need is the Bible, and I was wondering how that works out for people who can’t read or don’t understand it. Is this some sort of strange movement or something?
Fundamentalists sometime use that phrase. Usually it should just mean we believe the Bible is the authority and source of what we believe.
I would have to dig deeper to know.
It does not mean that people do not go to church etc…USUALLY
 
I understand what your saying, I haven’t had personal experience with Protestant Christianity and I am not exactly sure what to call these different beliefs. I’ve been friendly with some nice people recently, but their beliefs make no sense to me. They keep saying “all you need is the Bible,” “we believe the Bible,” and “our church mostly teaches the Bible, but we just go there for fellowshipping because that is what church is for,” or “I don’t believe in man-made religion.”

Anyways, I’m trying to figure out what they believe but when I ask they just say they are Christian, and that they believe in the Bible. That doesn’t leave me much to google. Do you happen to know what to call these people and what their beliefs really are?
By chance do you know exactly what churches they go to?
 
In Sola Scriptura churches, how can the illiterate and mentally or physically disabled come to be incorporated into the Body of Christ? If they can’t develop a personal relationship with Christ through reading the Bible, or they don’t understand the Bible how do they become Christian or grow in faith?

And what does a person do if he lacks confidence in his personal understanding of the Bible? If people tell him all he needs is the Bible, and he reads it but it makes no sense to him?
By the same token that a baby can not sin because the baby has no knowledge of good and evil.

In the book of Genesis it states that “the day” knowledge is ingested and acted upon, separation between that soul and God begins.

Ref: Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

A baby, and the mentally impaired are innocent of any sin until the day they eat of the fruit of knowledge of good and evil, should that be, their spiritual eyes are not opened thus not able to discern (judge) between good and evil.

But for those of us who are able and our eyes opened after gaining knowledge of good and evil, become separated spiritually, meaning dead spiritually, and must needs to have a rebirth from a dead state.

The bible is our guide to Christ the center of life, the beginning of life, and the bible states that all is required is simple faith, not a PHD in the bible’s understandings.

Ref: Act 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
  1. To open their eyes = eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
  2. to turn them from darkness = the consequence of number 1 above.
  3. to turn them… to light = from a dead state to life
  4. from the power of Satan = Same as number 3.
  5. unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins = redemption by Grace
  6. inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith = By faith receive your inheritance saved for you, or what the word santified means set apart/aside for you.
  7. by faith that is in me. = not that the faith of the speaker but: " and the faith which introduces the soul to all this is emphatically declared by the glorified Redeemer to rest upon Himself -
    The faith of Jesus!
1Pe 1:13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;

Now that, is having a relationship with Christ when God’s grace to us is realized and accepted.

Blessings, AJ
 
In Sola Scriptura churches, how can the illiterate and mentally or physically disabled come to be incorporated into the Body of Christ? If they can’t develop a personal relationship with Christ through reading the Bible, or they don’t understand the Bible how do they become Christian or grow in faith?

And what does a person do if he lacks confidence in his personal understanding of the Bible? If people tell him all he needs is the Bible, and he reads it but it makes no sense to him?
“It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe” (I Cor. 1:21). So God cannot get along without preaching, if He is to get men saved. All the Sunday school organization, all the educational and social work the church can do cannot substitute for God’s plan. “It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.”

Here is the first and strongest of all requirements concerning preaching. Every preacher is to preach the Gospel, for it is the Gospel alone that saves. In Romans 1:16 Paul tells us by divine inspiration, “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.”

And what is the Gospel? In I Corinthians 15:1–4 Paul tells us the Gospel he preached and by which his converts were saved: “Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.** For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures.”**

Christ **died for our sins **according to the Scriptures and **was buried **and **rose again the third day **according to the Scriptures. That is the Gospel. That is the Gospel Paul received, the Gospel he preached, the Gospel by which his converts were saved. It is the same Gospel that every preacher everywhere should preach today. No preaching is Christian preaching that does not preach salvation by the atoning death of Christ.

horrible curse is pronounced on any who preach any other gospel than that of salvation by the blood of Christ. In Galatians 1:6–9 is this apostolic declaration in the inspired Word of God: “I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.”

“I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.”—II Tim. 4:1,2.

That is in the same passage where Paul commands Timothy to “do the work of an evangelist.” The evangelist as well as the pastor is to “preach the word.” The foreign missionary is to “preach the word.”

You see that the Gospel of salvation is not all of the Bible. The Bible has other things besides the plan of salvation. The Ten Commandments are not in the plan of salvation. The Sermon on the Mount is beautiful and good, and it ought to be preached, but it is not the plan of salvation by the blood of Christ. First Corinthians 13, the love chapter, teaching brotherly charity, is in the Bible, but it is not the plan of salvation. A preacher should preach the whole Word of God. His preaching should be Bible preaching.

A Bible preacher is to “preach the word.” He is to reprove with the Word of God. He is to rebuke with the Word of God. He is to “exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine” (teaching); that is, his exhortation should be on a Bible basis and made in Bible terms and backed up by Scriptures quoted or read. Preaching should start with a Bible text or passage and expound that text or passage. Preaching should make clear the meaning of the Scriptures. Points made should be proven by the Scriptures and illustrated by scriptural examples. There is room for logic, there is room for illustrations; but these are secondary. The Word of God itself must be preeminent in preaching.

Romans 10:17 states, “So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing BY THE WORD OF GOD.”
 
Chances are a wooden translation of what they are conveying is not warranted. Presbyterian churches do not differ from other Protestant churches in any substantial way.
 
Chances are a wooden translation of what they are conveying is not warranted. Presbyterian churches do not differ from other Protestant churches in any substantial way.
So when they say “all you need is the Bible” that is just an expression? I am looking for help here, I don’t really know much about protestantism and this is kind of foreign to me. I just want to know what they are trying to tell me and the connotations of that.
 
So when they say “all you need is the Bible” that is just an expression? I am looking for help here, I don’t really know much about protestantism and this is kind of foreign to me. I just want to know what they are trying to tell me and the connotations of that.
The belief is that scripture is sufficient for teaching, building up, etc. That doesn’t mean that there isn’t studying that goes along with that scripture (language, history, context of the time period, etc). So yes, in a way, “all you need is the Bible” is an expression that kinda does disservice to the theology of the supremacy of scripture.
 
So when they say “all you need is the Bible” that is just an expression? I am looking for help here, I don’t really know much about protestantism and this is kind of foreign to me. I just want to know what they are trying to tell me and the connotations of that.
Its an expression that usually means that scripture teaches us what we need to know and not to rely on man made traditions. Usually
 
In Sola Scriptura churches, how can the illiterate and mentally or physically disabled come to be incorporated into the Body of Christ? If they can’t develop a personal relationship with Christ through reading the Bible, or they don’t understand the Bible how do they become Christian or grow in faith?

And what does a person do if he lacks confidence in his personal understanding of the Bible? If people tell him all he needs is the Bible, and he reads it but it makes no sense to him?
For many who believe just in the Bible it is sufficient to acknowledge Christ as their saviour… though there are of course consequences to that which will be explained by the minister of whatever such church. So, none of the above would be a problem.
 
Cool, thanks for your patience. Sometimes I don’t get religious cliches because I wasn’t raised in a religion. I didn’t mean to offend, only understand, so thanks for clearing that up!
 
I’ve spoken to many protestants that believe that all you need to do is read the bible and believe in Jesus. Some of these folks almost believe that going to an organized church or being part of a religion is a bad thing. Their beliefs are very strong that you only need to read the bible and believe in Jesus, to the point of being anti-religion.
 
Cool, thanks for your patience. Sometimes I don’t get religious cliches because I wasn’t raised in a religion. I didn’t mean to offend, only understand, so thanks for clearing that up!
Not a problem. Questions are awesome, so long as answers are sought. 👍
 
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