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• Abortion
• Church leadership, or no leadership
• Divorce
• Drinking allowed, drinking not allowed
• Homosexuality
• Music or no music (Singing or no singing)
• Once saved, always saved
• Ordination
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• Sola scriptura/private interpretation
• Women pastors, no women pastors
 
After you answer the questions that you have been avoiding from everyone on this thread for days. You are very good at throwing subtle insults…but you lost the debate on sola scriptura long ago. I’ll tell ya what. Start with PRmergers questions…and we’ll go from there…eh? 😛
You asked me one question, Mickey, which I answered.

“During the first millenium of Christianity, when East and West were united, I saw that although Rome was the preeminent city amongst the Patriarchates, the bishop of Rome (Pope) did not have a particular supremacy…nor was he considered the universal infallible bishop. The development of infallibility and universal supremacy was championed by the ultramontanists and declared doctrine by Pius IX in 1870.*That is one of the reasons I came to the Holy Orthodox Church.”

Solve that fallible private interpretation mote before pointing out your neighbor’s fallible private interpretation speck. Blessings.
 
• Abortion
• Church leadership, or no leadership
• Divorce
• Drinking allowed, drinking not allowed
• Homosexuality
• Music or no music (Singing or no singing)
• Once saved, always saved
• Ordination
• Predestination
• Rapture
• Sola scriptura/private interpretation
• Women pastors, no women pastors
PR, maybe you’re familiar with the term “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone”? One can see that many (not all) of these same problems plague the RCC as well as the Protestant Churches. Your system isn’t anymore perfect than ours.
 
Solve that fallible private interpretation mote
Cute. I have had many discussions with my Catholic brothers and sisters regarding papal primacy vs supremacy. And there are many threads of which you may participate.

We are very close on many issues. However, Catholics AND Orthodox are very far from the odd teachings that your denomination puts forth.

Now how about answering the questions?
 
Cute. I have had many discussions with my Catholic brothers and sisters regarding papal primacy vs supremacy. And there are many threads of which you may participate.

We are very close on many issues. However, Catholics AND Orthodox are very far from the odd teachings that your denomination puts forth.

Now how about answering the questions?
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PR, maybe you’re familiar with the term “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone”? One can see that many (not all) of these same problems plague the RCC as well as the Protestant Churches. Your system isn’t anymore perfect than ours.
At least the roman catholics can appeal to tradition and their elders, if a lutheran feels compelled by the spirit and reading of the bible to say homosexuals should marry can he be reasonably refuted? He is relying (at least from his perspective) the highest authority above any Council, bishop or tradition.
 
Cute. I have had many discussions with my Catholic brothers and sisters regarding papal primacy vs supremacy. And there are many threads of which you may participate.

We are very close on many issues. However, Catholics AND Orthodox are very far from the odd teachings that your denomination puts forth.

Now how about answering the questions?
“The Protestant churches, as you know, came out of the Roman Church when this body was already separated from the Eastern Orthodox Church. Thus, as one Russian theologian put it in the last century, it is probably true to say that the Roman and Reformed Protestant churches are much closer to each other—historically, spiritually, theologically, culturally, psychologically—than the Orthodox Church is to either.The many events and changes in the various churches in recent days, not excluding the Orthodox Church, makes this question still more difficult to answer. Thus, although we might say that the Orthodox are closer to the so-called “high” churches of the West such as the Roman and Anglican, it might be much safer and more correct to approach Orthodoxy solely on its own ground without too much comparison to others.” oca.org/questions/romancatholicism/is-the-orthodox-church-is-closer-to-the-roman-catholic-church-than-to-the-p
 
At least the roman catholics can appeal to tradition and their elders, if a lutheran feels compelled by the spirit and reading of the bible to say homosexuals should marry can he be reasonably refuted? He is relying (at least from his perspective) the highest authority above any Council, bishop or tradition.
Of course he can be refuted. If he takes being a Lutheran seriously, he’s read the conclusion of the Augsburg Confession which says:
Only those things have been recounted whereof we thought that it was necessary to speak, in order that it might be understood that in doctrine and ceremonies nothing has been received on our part against Scripture or the Church Catholic. For it is manifest that we have taken most diligent care that no new and ungodly doctrine should creep into our churches.
I find nothing in scripture or the historic Church Catholic that permits what you say above.

Jon
 
Of course he can be refuted. If he takes being a Lutheran seriously, he’s read the conclusion of the Augsburg Confession which says:

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I find nothing in scripture or the historic Church Catholic that permits what you say above**.

Jon
Again your man opinion agianst his idea of what the bible says.
 
"The Protestant churches, as you know, came out of the Roman Church
You thrust yourself away from the Latin Catholic Church in protest…that’s for sure. And then you kept on reforming. You threw out the Sacraments including the apostolic succession.

You are certainly not closer to them than the Orthodox. :rotfl:
 
Again your man opinion agianst his idea of what the bible says.
This would be determined by the church. Individual opinion of Scripture, creeds, confessions, and other authorities have no place in the confessional Lutheran church.
 
You thrust yourself away from the Latin Catholic Church in protest…that’s for sure. And then you kept on reforming. You threw out the Sacraments including the apostolic succession.

You are certainly not closer to them than the Orthodox. :rotfl:
That quote is from the OCA.
 
PR, maybe you’re familiar with the term “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone”? One can see that many (not all) of these same problems plague the RCC as well as the Protestant Churches. Your system isn’t anymore perfect than ours.
Our system, batman, is infinitely better than yours, in that we have a functioning magisterium to declare what is God’s revelation and what is not.

It is our paradigm that if a Catholic divorces himself from that which the magisterium has proclaimed, his views are reprobate. That is not the Protestant paradigm.

The differences between Catholic schools of thought have nowhere near the magnitude of the difference among Protestant schools.
 
Our system, batman, is infinitely better than yours, in that we have a functioning magisterium to declare what is God’s revelation and what is not.

It is our paradigm that if a Catholic divorces himself from that which the magisterium has proclaimed, his views are reprobate. That is not the Protestant paradigm.

The differences between Catholic schools of thought have nowhere near the magnitude of the difference among Protestant schools.
I would politely disagree. Does the scripture say "Cursed is the man who trusts in man, or Blessed is the man who trusts in man? (Jer. 17:5) The idea that a fallible humans can make infallible decrees is just not a good one. That is the whole point of using the Bible as the sole authority. There, you have God’s written Word. Now, to those churches that make light of what is written in scripture, and go against His Word, they will be accountable for what they have done.
 
The differences between Catholic schools of thought have nowhere near the magnitude of the difference among Protestant schools.
Ah… but that’s lumping all the Protestants together and pronouncing their difference.

Just as Catholics don’t answer for SSPX, Old Catholics, PNCC and the Chinese Catholic Patriotic Association, confessional Lutherans don’t answer for other Protestants, we answer for ourselves.

Frankly, given the times, confessional Lutherans have done reasonably well in steering the boat in it’s original direction. I do ask that you Catholics keep the lighthouse running so we know where to steer.
 
This would be determined by the church. Individual opinion of Scripture, creeds, confessions, and other authorities have no place in the confessional Lutheran church.
And what is a church if not composed of a Creed, opinions of scripture, confessions and authorities?
 
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