'Solo' sputters in takeoff with $83.3 million at box office

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ah another reason not to watch this new movie , i had no idea they turned lando into a pansexual, or my guess is they used innuendo ; to suggest he was off kilter a bit.

This is what happens when you sell your creation to an insane franchise.
 
No. Just no. Star Wars was a marvellous part of my childhood, its flaws papered over happily by nostalgia. It was quite happy living in my memory and the boxset of VHS tapes on my shelf.
And then they released The Force Awakens, because of this futile notion that nostalgia alone is a reason to make a movie. In it I saw the young, vital heroes of my childhood crumble into dust.
And to add insult to injury, they keep churning these blandfests out to stamp out every last vestige of creativity that has been created in the intervening years via fanfiction and comics and all our imaginations.
And the final kicker is recasting Han Solo - he went from young and powerful, to old and pointless, to an unconvincing imposter and I feel like I’ve been cheated out of my cherished memories and the price of a movie ticket.
 
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ah another reason not to watch this new movie , i had no idea they turned lando into a pansexual, or my guess is they used innuendo ; to suggest he was off kilter a bit.
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And if that were in the movie, I’d have been annoyed. But it’s not in the movie, it’s just stuff people said in interviews.
 
I’ve heard it’s good from someone I trust. For me, the first three Star Wars movies are really it and the rest are just bits and pieces or not ‘real’ Star Wars. That said, i will see Solo at some point.

I don’t feel cheated out of anything. My memories of the first three are mine to keep and watch again.
 
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I must be in the minority. Force awakens is a good movie, even if it falls short of the original trilogy. I LOVE rogue one. Honestly it’s my second or 3rd favorite Star Wars movie. Solo was better than Last Jedi, my least favorite of the newest batch…but even it is way better than any of Episodes 1-3.

And it’s totally believable that Lando is a weirdo.
 
Too fatigued from even hearing about Star Wars, Avengers, or Super Heroes movies to care. I remember when the first “new” Star Wars came out in 1999, what a big deal it was since it had been so long. Now it’s what, two of them per year?
 
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I don’t feel cheated out of anything. My memories of the first three are mine to keep and watch again.
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And Han still shoots first that way . . .

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This, my friend, gets you all the cookies.
 
Well yes, that’s what I mean about the lack of creativity and stamping out of all that imagination. I am cynical about the cashing in, of course, but it’s the flat, dull quality of the films that have emerged that really squashes my enthusiasm.
 
Hollywood likes to use formulas, depending on the studio, that it thinks “works.” Money was spent to reshoot parts of Rogue One because ‘preview audiences’ liked this but not that. Hollywood uses psychologists to pre-screen movies as well. I’ve noticed a tendency to make sure a lot of movies don’t ‘look like the old stuff’ even if they incorporate some old elements. That way, “new” movies represent some new look that Hollywood execs want to create as if they’re re-creating the medium for “modern” audiences. Storytelling has many rules and they can only be stretched and moved around to a point. Dark and dystopian appears to be the current trend along with over the top stuff, with extra violence.
 
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edtaylor51 said:
I must be in the minority. Force awakens is a good movie, even if it falls short of the original trilogy. I LOVE rogue one. Honestly it’s my second or 3rd favorite Star Wars movie. Solo was better than Last Jedi, my least favorite of the newest batch…but even it is way better than any of Episodes 1-3.

And it’s totally believable that Lando is a weirdo.
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Lando’s just a Lando-sexual. Narcissist. I didn’t get any weird vibes off him, but that’s just me I guess.
 
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Well yes, that’s what I mean about the lack of creativity and stamping out of all that imagination. I am cynical about the cashing in, of course, but it’s the flat, dull quality of the films that have emerged that really squashes my enthusiasm.
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Frankly, what was so creative about the originals?

ANH - Hero arises, obtains victory
ESB - Antagonist gains upper hand
ROTJ - Hero obtains final victory

When did that story first come out? 3 minutes after storytelling was invented?

When they take risks, they often screw stuff up. Like what’s being done with hyperspace travel and combat as well as inventing new force powers no one’s heard of.

For some folks, I think they’re darned if they do and danged if they don’t.
 
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Well yes, that’s what I mean about the lack of creativity and stamping out of all that imagination. I am cynical about the cashing in, of course, but it’s the flat, dull quality of the films that have emerged that really squashes my enthusiasm.
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Frankly, what was so creative about the originals?

ANH - Hero arises, obtains victory
ESB - Antagonist gains upper hand
ROTJ - Hero obtains final victory

When did that story first come out? 3 minutes after storytelling was invented?

When they take risks, they often screw stuff up. Like what’s being done with hyperspace travel and combat as well as inventing new force powers no one’s heard of.

For some folks, I think they’re darned if they do and danged if they don’t.
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Absolutely nothing at all. I make no claims to them being high art. The only really groundbreaking thing about them was the musical score. Totally aware of their flaws, plot holes and cheese.
Which is probably I’m so 🤨 about the modern films being peddled as deeply interesting dramatic blah blah blah. Building a universe on fluffy seventies sci-fi was only ever going to be impressive in fanboy fantasy. I was quite happy for the non-cashing in, leave the perishing thing alone and do something new and interesting.
I mean seriously, taking risks? Taking a small series of films with a massive following and squeezing dull stories out of every offhand line of dialogue in them? Where is the risk in that?
 
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I enjoyed Solo more than the last movie
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Well, that’s not saying much because The Last Jedi was terrible. 😎
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My blind adherence to fanboy-dom prevents me from using “terrible” to describe it, but my buddies and I left the theater fighting at the end of that movie. There was so much wrong…
 
I saw Star Wars on opening night. All I really knew about it was some guy in a black cape wearing a full head helmet and some young guy who didn’t look like a classic hero (big, muscular, etc.). I had no idea what to expect. The storytelling was superb, the photography/effects were superb. In the first two minutes, I see this very unconventional ‘hammerhead shark’ spaceship, followed by the underside of its pursuer that keeps going and going and going. When I see the Star Destroyer head-on, I go ‘wow.’ The pacing is perfect. Pulling in the rebel ship and then seeing the crew, in very well done costuming, waiting for the boarding party. A door blows open, and Stormtroopers - an awesome, plausible looking design - appear. I’m spellbound. Then Darth Vader walks in…

I was totally immersed. Part of me was in the movie. When it ended, I watched it again. So many innovations, so many awesome designs, totally unknown actors (aside from Alec Guinness), and Star Wars made a permanent impression on me (the first three movies).
 
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Absolutely nothing at all. I make no claims to them being high art. The only really groundbreaking thing about them was the musical score.
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The visual effects were groundbreaking as well and paved the way for an entire sub-industry of the motion picture industry. Lucasfilm’s Industrial Light and Magic is still, to this day, one of the prestige visual effects production companies.
 
I was encouraged to see ILM featured as the main effects house behind Solo. I have the first hardcover book about Industrial Light & Magic. Wait a minute… Originally published in 1986! That’s impossible!!
 
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