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MatthewScott said:
I think I understand what you’re saying. Essentially you’re saying how could I have authority to interpret or anyone for that matter. It needs to be left to the church (catholic at that) to interpret. Correct? So you think men outside of the papacy cannot be led by the spirit to truth found in the scripture? (probably because of the words given to Peter?)
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Of course any of us (I’m certainly not a priest, I’m a woman) can be lead by the Spirit to Truth. However, what do you do when you THINK the Spirit tells you that the Bible says that Jesus’s Flesh and Blood (literal) must be truth (John 6), and another person thinks the Spirit tells HIM that the Bible says the Jesus’s Flesh and Blood (figurative) must be truth (John 6). Both can use Scripture and say that it accords with their view, but only one can be correct, yes?

Historically speaking, the Catholic Church’s teaching of LITERAL flesh and blood (this is accepted by the Orthodox Church as well) spans 2 millennia. Certain Protestant groups’ insistence on ‘figurative’ marks at most 5 centuries, and even between themselves, Protestants disagree on what the text mean.

All these people claim the Spirit’s guidance. But how can you know that what you THINK is the Spirit, IS the Spirit?
 
MatthewScott said:
Missed this one.

Thanks for finding that. Before Jesus died and made atonement for our sins we would have been accountable to the same punishment by our sins. God is holy and does not accept sin. Think if Jesus hadn’t come we’d probably all have already received our death penalty since we are all worthy of it and unworthy of the sacrifice Jesus made at the cross. Not sure how this affects obedience to God’s law though. It’s evidence that we no longer are killed when we sin but that doesn’t change the law.
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I think we’re actually approaching something of the same page here. But you see, The BIBLE never specifically says that this commandment is now no longer necessary to be followed strictly as in the OT, right? The understanding that you give is not something the Bible itself says, but something which an authority interpreting Scripture through the light of the Spirit would come to understand. . . and again, different people have different understanding and may not get it quite ‘right’. .

And if this is the case HERE, could it not also be the case that by Jesus’ sacrifice we no longer follow other ‘commandments’ because though the law still exists, His sacrifice has ‘fulfilled’ it for us?
 
MatthewScott said:
Well I didn’t state Catholics are breaking any. And maybe eternal wasn’t the right word to use, but it would seem the practically are.

Deuteronomy 7:9
9 Know therefore that the Lord thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;

Leviticus 23:14,21,31
It shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations.

Matthew 5:18-19
Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or tittle shall no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven.

You say the bible can’t define itself? Are you saying we can’t use the bible to discern the truth of our faith? I don’t understand your statement.

It’s not that I don’t believe but I’d like to see the command where it tells you to kill your child if they do wrong. Could you please show me where that is?

And you say we don’t “do” all these things in a manner that sounds like some of the commands are stupid or foolish… God’s law is perfect:
“The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.” Psalm 19:7

I’m not saying that we must do all things, but it just seems to me like most doctorines (not just Catholic) base their ideology on mans understanding of what is right and perfect and not what scripture says.
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I disagree with you on one thing. Even though I’m not Catholic, I disagree with you.

The Bible doesn’t address 14 year old’s smoking weed or crystal meth, does that mean it’s right and perfect?
 
MatthewScott said:
Hey guys,

I came across this site browsing the web today. Read some of the articles and forum posts on this site and found it thought provoking. I’ve never completely understood Catholic doctrine. I have some questions that I’m sure could be found via google or just by doing some reading, but it seems there are a lot of smart people here so I’d like to ask you guys direct. That okay?

Here’s two questions to start…

  1. *]How does a Catholic love God?
    *]Why is there a pope?
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  1. How do you love God? I’m thinking it’s pretty much the same for us. We love God the same way you do.

    Why is there a Pope? Why not? How do you have anyone in charge with authority? Your local pastor, some guy down the street, perhaps a tv evangelist? Isn’t the real problem ~ No authority?

    It’s a good thing to have someone to say “Hey, this is right or this is wrong.” What are so many afraid of? Someone in charge. Don’t you have that everyday in your working life? Isn’t someone in charge? Why not in the Church? Doesn’t that make sense?
 
Matthew, are you a Seventh Day Adventist? You come across as one. And we all know of the low esteem SDA’s have for Catholicism.
 
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