I like most of your post Valmabar, but what is above, I must disagree with somewhat.
God does not conduct our History, as you say, but he DOES interact WITHIN our history. Because God leaves us Revelations in the Bible (which he very definitely does do,) that does not mean that mankind does not have a free will do to whatever he wills.
It ONLY means that God FORSEES, as only GOD can do, what men will do with his free will at some later time. It does not force men to do HIS will. INDEED, the very men who are responsible for fulfilling prophecies, are sometimes working (in their own minds) against God.
This is a very difficult concept to grasp sometimes. Even Catholics sometimes say Judas was fulfilling a prophecy by betraying the Christ Jesus. They think that somehow removes his guilt, but it doesn’t. It makes no difference. Judas was not thinking of the Prophecy when he betrayed Jesus, he was thinking his own wicked thoughts. It is only IN HINDSIGHT that the evangelists notice that Judas fulfilled a prophecy. See?
Jesus did show many times that he foresaw the future, not based on what happened in the past. Look at Matthew 17: 24-27
May God Put His Bless on us.
I think we are very like each other brother Ambrose. Our desagreements does not separate us. Is like two people with different opinions but having great respect for each other.
I agree on that, God leaves Revelations in the Bible. It is why I use the Bible for achieve much of what I know. My disagreement is in the perception that, You can consult the Bible for foretell or interpret the future that came long ago after the writing of the Bible.
The men that wrote the Bible and some of the others Sacred Books or even the Apocrypha were sensitive people. They wrote about the world that they live on. In my culture we have a say, History repeat itself. Sometimes, the description of a fact witnessed by a sensitive soul seems to match what is happen later but is History that repeat itself.
The Prophecy is the attempt of to avoid to repeat bad things. Why mankind repeat itself? Because mankind is made from the same elements, does not matter what Age he lives. And I am not talking about the atomic elements. I am talking about envy, love, lusts, etcetera. What contributes for the repeatition is the lack of Knowledge.
If mankind already knew the consequences of the polution in the seventeen hundreds, maybe, today we were not talking about its effects. But you never know because the hungry for money in some is insatiable. But when the ones that call themselves of good guys and excuse themselves of act against the unjustices, then, the time for History repeat itself is open up.
I agree on that, God Does Interact Withim our History. I think we desagree just in the Way He Does. Our Fellow Jews and Christians defend the idea that, He intervene on our History. Even whispering on the ears of our Prophets for to make our Scriptures.
We desagree on the detail. Since the Material World were born God Left in it His Light. Which don’t need to be a visible or measurable one. The Light of God Is in the air (even on the figure of language that I used here). It is for all of us to hear. But mostly all of us don’t know how to be quiet enough for to capture It so well. Some of the sensitive are more capable of to do it. Usually we call them Prophets, even the ones that make bad use of his prophecies.
Since God Put His Light on our way He Does not Intervene anymore. Why not? His Light is known to us as Providence. Everything we need Is Already Provided by God. He Knew, even before any manifestation of what we call by the name of Beginning, what each one of us would need in every moment of our History.
So, He Provided The Whisper, The apparitions, The Communications etcetera. But He Did It Only For Good. The problem is that, we, until know, was not yet conscients of those things.
Why not? God Prepared us for be in evolution. We had to pass though the Age of Brutish to the Age of Love.
Why? Because God Don’t Want to be worshiped by robots. He Want To Be Worshiped by who does it by himself will. (Even I desagree with our theory of freewill. We have enough will for do that but not enough for to be called by free. And the reason for that, look at our History, if Herod, Nero or Hitler had freewill, what History we would have now?)
Why God Is not Effetively Present in our material world? Is simple. He Is Omnipresent, Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omniconscient and you can nominate a Infinite number of Powers. So, in His Effetive Presence we are unable of do anything without He Know. If we even think to do anything inconsequential at first but will have any bad consequence in the future, His Presence Imped us to do that. Not because would be a sin but Our Father’s Providence.
It is why I doubt the myth that says, had any revolt in Heaven. It is not rational or intelligent.
So, God Know what we will do. Even the bad things. Why He Does not Intervene? It is against His Will but is part of our evolution. He Already Knew the bad things that we would do but He Provided condictions for also not to do it.
But, If God Knew, Made us, and Intervene not, He would be accused of be partner on our sins. Not so quiet well interpretation. He Really Does Allow us to sin but not inspire us to do anything wrong.
To Be Continued
