Sometimes I'm troubled by what our country has done in the past

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What a ludicrous statement.

You’re suggesting that out of 140,000 people not one was innocent? Not to mention affected pregnant women whose subsequent children were greatly affected with deformaties/disabilities.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were cities full of civilians. Schools, hospitals and homes were obliterated.

The dropping of the bomb was devastating and immoral. How can we be so disgusted with abortion and so flippant with human life that you deem too indoctrinated.

And as a side. Cannibalism occured in many death/concentration camps. It wasn’t unique to Japanese.
 
No, I’m not saying that. We probably did save lives. But we killed innocent people to do that.

I don’t think the ends justify the means.
 
It’s a good post and article. Here are two more articles… and folks, like I have said, we need to not do these kinds of things again. Back then, it was a cold war but Central America did suffer inordinately in my opinion.


Okay, one might say, well, that was President Bill Clinton apologizing. A lot of these things are back up with documentation from the National Archives, previously unreleased government documents.

And how about this, this is backed up with documents, I think the Tuskegee experiments were similar. Anyway, Guatemalans, mainly sex workers were infected with sexually transmitted diseases back in the 1940s for experiments, again, we apologized. Obviously, this is very wrong.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/10/01/us.guatemala.apology/index.html
 
Trump himself is troubled by what the US has done in the past, when he can point to it to defend Putin
 
If you read the final couple sentences, it says they started drafting 15 year old boys and 17 year old girls as front line soldiers. The 1400 was only in Okinawa. And this entirely leaves out the average persons indoctrination. The Japanese believed that surrender was worse than death. The only way to defeat them without wiping out half of their populous with a ground war, was to show them we could wipe them out without the glory they would gain through war. We ultimately took the path which saved the most lives. And on the cannibalism, I didn’t see nazi generals eating stew made of their prisoners livers.
 
Yes, we sent the Marines to Central America in the 1930’s to protect our interests and now it seems those chickens are coming home to roost.
 
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Yes, we sent the Marines to Central America in the 1930’s to protect our interests and now it seems those chickens are coming home to roost.
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No, WE didn’t take any military action at all in the 1930s. The political and military leaders and even voters of that time are dead.

WE should stop confessing and repenting the sins of dead people. WE should focus mainly on our own personal sins, or as citizens our personal actions influencing current evils. For instance I hate but wouldn’t repent legal abortion. I might reconsider my own actions or passivity, things I may have said or condoned, politicians I voted for. I might make a commitment to pray outside the “clinic” an hour each month.

Some might argue dropping the Bomb on Hiroshima is a greater evil than ongoing gossiping about neighbors. But millions of times more people gossip than drop atom bombs, and the gossip goes on, while atom bombs stopped. So it’s obvious which is the greater evil.
 
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Here is the NPR story
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Did you read it? It says
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Balangiga staged a cloak-and-dagger attack on the company of American troops occupying the town. According to historical accounts, on the eve of the attack, Filipino men disguised as women crept into St. Lawrence the Martyr Church past unsuspecting American soldiers to prepare their assault. Campanero says her great-great-aunt was the lone woman rebel in the plot.

The following day, the tolling from the bells of the Catholic church signaled the start of the revolt.

The native fighters slaughtered 48 U.S. servicemen, two-thirds of the company, as the Americans were eating breakfast.
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What is disgusting is that Phillipino men would dress up as women, and wield knives in a church to slaughter men who are putting their lives on the line and thus leaving countless women as widows and countless children fatherless. Yet your posts seem to give them a pass. And then to use the Church bells as symbol of the cowardly knife attack? Horrific on every level.
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Historian Xiao Chua says the most credible accounts suggest that the Americans did not “wantonly kill civilians.” Rather, they destroyed everything else.

“Because they were still mad — they burned the village. They killed the animals. They burned crops. Basically, the whole of Samar [island] was turned into a ‘howling wilderness,’ ” he says, using a phrase contained in an actual order.
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According to your own cited article, the “most credible accounts” indicate that Americans did not kill innocent civilians. So even looking at this horrific story, the actions of the Phillipino rebels (did kill innocents) isn’t comparable to actions of the Americans.
 
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Yes i read it. I am not giving anyone a pass, I resent your characterizations of what I said. I researched this matter and found one historian in one article that said different. I believe it is best to confront truths whatever they may tell us. Also, one should look at all related posts at the least, not just scout the work I did in showing there could be another side and then, saying I’m ignoring that.
 
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Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
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Nobody is talking about forgeting, or even rewriting our history. We are saying it doesn’t deserve to be overly dwelled upon.

I regret the sins I did as a child but I’ve repented and most are behind me. My focus is on the wrongs I still do.
 
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