I said “yes” also. Very soon after meeting my husband, I remember telling my sister, “I think this is the man God has for me.” My husband and I have talked about it, and we both feel that God intended us for each other. We have been married for 24 years and it has been awesome. Today is my birthday and my dear husband gave me a card so beautiful that it made me cry!
Don’t worry. I married a research scientist. There was no way I was gonna marry a fellow lawyer instead of a real person.Gamera, I dread the thought of two lawyers talking about love.
I’m glad you agree with me then.:tiphat:
No, I do not listen to feminists. I can see how I came off too exaggeratedly, but I was referring to the flesh and carnality.
Yes we are prone to sin, but I think it’s reasonable to say that choosing the person God intends for you is realistic.
But that also doesn’t mean that fulfilling God’s desires for lives has to be like treading a tight rope, ready to fall any second. God isn’t so indifferent as to not guide those who seek after Him. If God has certain intentions for your life, He has to present you with the knowledge and information to to be able to fulfill those intentions.
Okay, I shouldn’t have said “perfect”. But marriage is a huge deal. And you are sapping the charity of God by thinking it is such a struggle to receive the mate God wants for you. You are to become one flesh with this person, that is a huge deal, God is ready and willing to guide us if we are patient.
Absolutely not, If meeting your soul mate was open to a select few, then first of all, It wouldn’t make those who receive their mate, as happy, and second of all, it’d prove it isn’t true. Unfortunately, it just so happens to be that few meet, or will meet this person.
What pressure is there when you have a resting faith in your God? Also, we are to experience God’s love together with our mate, and look forward to heaven together with our mate.
This idea of a soul mate isn’t some manufactured speculation or hypothesis, it is a deep, untaught, desire. Love doesn’t need to be taught.
It’s plainly and simply a borrowed idea from Hinduism and Buddhism, then altered to mean a mate for romance and companionship. Originally it isn’t though, as a soulmate is a karmic partner that one goes through with in the various incarnations one gores through. This karmic bond makes them soul partners, and one’s soulmate isn’t necessarily someone from an opposite gender, nor does it need romance. Somehow Western culture borrowed this term from both religions, altered its meaning to make it fit its own culture, since reincarnation and karma are mostly alien from Western culture.
Not necessarily. It’s just besides question. What can a work of fiction prove anyway.
Well, yeah, the original sin. Sure, we do have concupiscence and whatnot, but it doesn’t mean we’re debauched and sport animalistic levels of sex-drive as a rule. The times we’re having aren’t great, but there are some decent folks out there.
And are we somehow the oracles of God’s will? And what gives the idea that God specifically intended specifically us to marry specifically that person? There’s a lot of talking about the vocation of marriage, but I doubt there’s any, “you will go and marry Miss X,” the way one’s called to priesthood. I wonder if a lot of it is not just common parlance modelled after vocation to priesthood.
I don’t at all. God would certainly pick me a girl better than I could on my own, if that’s what you mean.
Sorry, I think you’re denying yourself within the paragraph above. If God wanted everyone marrying to marry a person intended by Him, wouldn’t He guide people? This is what you said before. Now you’re saying people don’t meet their intended spouses at all, most of the time. This looks more like the secular soulmate theory.
If few people even meet their intended spouses, then there is inevitably pressure.
Neither proves nor disproves the soulmate theory.
It’s a desire for love to one person, as we are monogamous.
Neither proves nor disproves the soulmate theory. Love may well be instinctive still with careful choice rather than specific destiny.
Oh yes, but she was the first woman and he was the only man.
Doesn’t prove anything.
Again engages God in a romantic concept likely originated in literature.
I believe it to be true in many ways, although I believe there are several persons meant for each other and depending upon our own choices we make thru our lives will decide which we are to be with,
There are people who haven’t heard of Buddhism or Hinduism or the term soul mate, who wonder if there is one ‘prince’ for them, very young girls for instance.
You just seemed to appreciate the goodness of the scenario the movie depicted, so I used that to infer what you think about a soul mate.
Marriage came before the priesthood, priesthood came after the fall. And arguably, stopped being necessary after the crucifixion.
God intends everyone to come to the knowledge of His son’s death and be born again too, and he does guide people, and they reject. And if few people meet their real mates, then that just shows how few people care to believe how good God really is, and how good God wants to be to His followers.
I was hoping I could enlighten your very moderate and satisfactory view of marriage. It does in fact imply that there can be one specific person, you just don’t want to believe.
Yes, we are monogamous, just as Jesus was monogamous in spirit, having only one bride as his church. Ah but what other planet is there? Is that only because we are one civilization you ask? We don’t need to worry about that…
That is how deeply embedded the idea one intended person is in this mystery that is life. That is just how pure, simple and obvious it is. God wouldn’t want it any other way. There was no room to think otherwise because that was the time where God’s original intent was the order of things.
…or it could prove our desire for one person has merit.
But we are to become one flesh with our wives and love her as Christ loves the church. A spouse is a friend and more.
Yes, I understand that; my point is that the idea is not from Western culture or even from Christianity, but is borrowed from Hindu and Buddhism, watered down to mean romantic companionship. This idea is fairly recent with other New Age ideas that crossed over from other religions.
Actually, no. The idea of soulmate is linked with reincarnation and karma; unless you believe in reincarnation and think that you have a karmic partner, then the idea of a soulmate would be at best limited to having a life partner, which is very different from the original idea of what a soulmate is. Is it an innate idea? That would be another topic, as then we’ll have to go into what one believes the afterlife to be, or indeed if there is even reincarnation in the first place.
Polaris, that’s so beautiful! What a tribute to your wife to say that she was the only person you would ever want to be with, and that you’ll be reunited soon (well, maybe long in human years, but only a day in God’s time). I can only hope that I am as blessed to have such a marriage that you had (and still have) with your wife. God bless you!
So where did that young girl get the idea from?
What about Tristan and Isolde, and Romeo and Juliet? The term soul mate wasn’t used, but the concept of one true love existed in medieval Europe.
All that one needs to know about the afterlife is that we will know eachother in heaven, which takes no effort to believe.
Dating is obsolete to someone who has faith in their God. Dating is a secular idea, it is what someone with no heavenly resources resorts to. God also gives clear guidance, and doesn’t send ‘test drives’.
I suspect you are young, or you haven’t been involved with many people. Dating has NOTHING to do with faith in God. It has to do with the idea that Satan is the author of lies. And unless you have ever encountered someone who gave off a good appearance for a while but was totally different beneath the glossy surface, don’t lecture anyone about faith in God. I trust God. Everyone else must submit a background check.
From people around her, who got the idea from other people as well, etc. Like I said, these people have bought into an idea that’s not been in Christianity or Western culture until New Age ideas came in.
I’m not talking of one true love, I’m talking about the concept of soulmate and how it has been degraded to mean one true love, when that concept was never intended to solely mean one’s true love. It has a much wider meaning, and not restricted to love.
No; like I said, you’re confusing soulmate to mean only one true love; this is not how the idea is originally thought. What many think a soulmate to be is a watered down version of what Hindus and Buddhists originally believed in. It was made to fit Western culture, since most Westerners do not believe in reincarnation and karmic partners.
Ah, that is oversimplifying things. Actually, discussions about the afterlife is much more complicated than that, as we will have to go into different belief systems. Like I said though, this is not the thread for it, as it will totally hijack the thread.