Speaking in tongues during Mass

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**There have been a couple of questions regarding this topic, I wish to add to the questions.

I have been at Mass where people speak in tongues during the Consecration and elevation of the Precious Body and Precious Blood.

This always has distracted me from the moment.

My question is this…the Holy Spirit would never confuse people - so why would the Holy Spirit give this particular gift at this high point of ANY Mass?**
 
jmjconder said:
**There have been a couple of questions regarding this topic, I wish to add to the questions.

I have been at Mass where people speak in tongues during the Consecration and elevation of the Precious Body and Precious Blood.

This always has distracted me from the moment.

My question is this…the Holy Spirit would never confuse people - so why would the Holy Spirit give this particular gift at this high point of ANY Mass?**
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Hmmm, I haven’t experienced this exactly, although I have attended Mass where someone in the front row throws their arms up and loudly exclaims, “MY LORD AND MY GOD” during the elevation, which is somewhat distracting. I know this is retro behavior, and I guess in a sense I can’t talk because I am prone to kneel after the Agnus Dei, although I do it noiselessly and as discretely as possible.

What do you mean by “speak in tongues” specifically? Are these folks loud? Are their vocalizations intelligible, or glossolalia?
 
Faithdancer said:
Hmmm, I haven’t experienced this exactly, although I have attended Mass where someone in the front row throws their arms up and loudly exclaims, “MY LORD AND MY GOD” during the elevation, which is somewhat distracting. I know this is retro behavior, and I guess in a sense I can’t talk because I am prone to kneel after the Agnus Dei, although I do it noiselessly and as discretely as possible.

What do you mean by “speak in tongues” specifically? Are these folks loud? Are their vocalizations intelligible, or glossolalia?
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**Yes - these folks are loud enough that all those in the congregation hears. Their vocalizations are not intelligilbe. Seems gibberish (glossolalia?) to me - since part of the gift of tongues is that there is also the gift of interruption of tongues so I wonder if this is true. **
 
Well I have heard it both ways. When there is a Mass for catholic charismatics, there tends to be praise during the consecration and elevation that is in tongues. When a large number of people are doing it it is rather beautiful. All there understand that this kind of praise it is being done through them by the Holy Spirit and that makes it more perfect praise. You don’t have to accept this, but understand that that is what people participating believe and are doing so very reverently.

The other time I heard tongues at Mass, was when someone had an outburst of foreigh language that I recognized as a language but did not understand. The priest said, let us pray for an interpretation. One was given. This was a weekday Mass and it was during prayer of the people before the offertory.

These are examples of two different types of gift of tongues. The first is praying in tongues and is considered the “least” of the gifts of the Holy Spirit. The second example is speaking in tongues and is rarer I think. The Holy Spirit usually (from my limited understanding) provides someone with the gift of interpretation when someone has this gift.

I had interesting reactions if anyone is interested. At the praying of tongues at Mass, I was kind of peacefully joyful - not the internal sense I started with! At the person speaking in tongues, it was like my heart leapt.
 
Ohana said:
Well I have heard it both ways. When there is a Mass for catholic charismatics, there tends to be praise during the consecration and elevation that is in tongues. When a large number of people are doing it it is rather beautiful. All there understand that this kind of praise it is being done through them by the Holy Spirit and that makes it more perfect praise. You don’t have to accept this, but understand that that is what people participating believe and are doing so very reverently.

The other time I heard tongues at Mass, was when someone had an outburst of foreigh language that I recognized as a language but did not understand. The priest said, let us pray for an interpretation. One was given. This was a weekday Mass and it was during prayer of the people before the offertory.

These are examples of two different types of gift of tongues. The first is praying in tongues and is considered the “least” of the gifts of the Holy Spirit. The second example is speaking in tongues and is rarer I think. The Holy Spirit usually (from my limited understanding) provides someone with the gift of interpretation when someone has this gift.

I had interesting reactions if anyone is interested. At the praying of tongues at Mass, I was kind of peacefully joyful - not the internal sense I started with! At the person speaking in tongues, it was like my heart leapt.
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I’m sorry but I just don’t buy into this nonsense personally. I don’t mean any disrespect for people who “do” but I’m just saying, if God wants to speak to someone or speak through someone, He’s going to do it in a way we can understand. The whole gibberish nonsense is nothing more than a distraction. One that has no place at the Mass. I dread the thought of a charismatic Mass anywhere near my area (fortunately I’ve not heard of them). I think it’s time to abandon the Charismatic movement and go back to the TLM when Catholicism still meant Catholicism and not pentecostal/assembly of god type spirituality.
 
SaintPatrick333 said:
I’m sorry but I just don’t buy into this nonsense personally. I don’t mean any disrespect for people who “do” but I’m just saying, if God wants to speak to someone or speak through someone, He’s going to do it in a way we can understand. The whole gibberish nonsense is nothing more than a distraction. One that has no place at the Mass. I dread the thought of a charismatic Mass anywhere near my area (fortunately I’ve not heard of them). I think it’s time to abandon the Charismatic movement and go back to the TLM when Catholicism still meant Catholicism and not pentecostal/assembly of god type spirituality.
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Amen I say! When the Bible refers to the Apostles receiving the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues it means foreign languages. They were not going around making gibberish noises like turkeys.
 
onceablasphemer said:
Amen I say! When the Bible refers to the Apostles receiving the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues it means foreign languages. They were not going around making gibberish noises like turkeys.
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The Bible also says that when someone speaks in tongues, there should be one there that interprets, paraphrasing St Paul.

If it is truly given by the Holy Spirit, which tongues is supposed to be though, I would not want be the one saying "it's not real". We should not try to question the Spirit this way.  However, St Paul does say that he spoke in tongues, but the better way was charity (love).

I had a friend who was Pentecostal, who has since passed from this life to the next.  I have never seen a more Godly woman...I could see Jesus almost literally in her, whenever I was with her.  I do miss her.  I helped her by removing a stitch accidentally left by her surgeon after her cancer surgery.  We both prayed during this time, because she was afraid of having the stitch taken out.  I prayed out in English while she praised God in tongues.  No, I don't have the gift of either interpretation or tongues, but it was easy to tell whom she was praising!  Oh, as a nurse, I was able to easily get the stitch out, it was almost out by itself.
 
The Spirit speaks in inexpressible groanings.

Making sense to a human language speaking person, is not required for it to have been from the Spirit.

Based on my own experience with spontaneous ejaculations such as calling out Amen at a non-Charismatic Mass, is that these things come up and happen before I realize I did them. They are not premeditated. I’m not thinking, “oh I really like what was just said so I’ll yell out ‘Amen’,” but more like I don’t even realize until I’m doing it – “hey I’m saying something, I wonder what?” Then a tenth of a second later, “I just yelled ‘Amen’.” But for me, once is enough for any given context. After that I’m “vaccinated” against it.

IOW, if I burst out with “Amen” or “blahblah” once during the consecration, I doubt I’d do it again because the next time I’d be thinking, “I wonder if I’m going to blurt something out,” and with that conscious thought on it, I won’t. And not after that, either. Apparently whatever it was that needed to be heard (by me or others – I never know) only needs one shot at it. 👍

It helps to have the cover of an ostensible mental illness, so people who know me at least don’t think I’m being rude. 😛

But that’s just me. I find it hard to be spontaneous when I’m doing something I’ve done before.

Alan
 
Jimmygill88 said:
I don’t believe that people speak in tongues.
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Maybe you don’t believe in the Law of Gravity, either. In any case, it is very real, and you wouldn’t want to jump off a building to test it. 😉 Why question what you do not understand? Just leave it be and go on with your own life, living out your salvation.
 
The Bible also says that when someone speaks in tongues, there should be one there that interprets, paraphrasing St Paul.
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The bible ALSO says, there are VARIOUS kinds of tongues. Paul is addressing only one form – that of speaking God’s word to the assembly, for which there should be an interpretation. It is not the gift of “prayer” tongues that are included as one of the “various kinds.”
 
jmjconder said:
…why would the Holy Spirit give this particular gift at this high point of ANY Mass?
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One possible explanation is that what these people are doing is not the gift of tongues at all, but a phenomenon of purely human origin.
 
Sirach2 said:
Maybe you don’t believe in the Law of Gravity, either. In any case, it is very real, and you wouldn’t want to jump off a building to test it. 😉 Why question what you do not understand? Just leave it be and go on with your own life, living out your salvation.
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Isn’t it a contradiction to tell other people to not question other people?
 
if i’m not mistaken Holy Mother Church allows this and also the Ordinary Form of the Mass,so have i stumbled upon the New Magisterium 🤷
 
Rainaldo said:
Isn’t it a contradiction to tell other people to not question other people?
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If you are referring to the question by the OP, I think I answered it sufficiently. None of us were there, nor do we know the intent of the person he heard, nor do we know what type of celebration he attended. Too many variables that nobody can answer. The best advice is what I gave him, “let it be and go on with your own life, living out your salvation.”
Psst. That’s scriptural, my man. 😉

Furthermore, the poster I replied to was not questioning, but declaring. Big difference.
 
Rainaldo said:
Isn’t it a contradiction to tell other people to not question other people?
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Perhaps, but is it a contradiction to tell other people that it’s a contradiction to tell other people to not question other people?
 
It is not charitable but could also be prideful to break into tongues or any other loud and distracting behavior during a parish Mass. The priest should deal with this for the respectful and peaceful worship of others in the congregation.
 
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