SPLIT: Baha'i: Heaven on earth

[Usbek_de_Perse]

Hello, DavidMark, I agree that the ordinary revelation which does not form part of any sacred book ( bible or Quran) is still continued. It will continue till the day of Judgement. That revelation is only allowed to the saints (Friends) of Allah. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian also believed the same and he said he recieved the revelation from God for about 35 years. He got his revelations published in his life time.

He says that God spoke to him through revelation and visions for many years. God told him the things of the unseen and those things were like miracles and were proved true.

The words of revelations he recieved were in Urdu, Persian, Arabic and English. All the words he heard (received) from God, he informed his friends immediately and got them written down. All those words are printed/ published in a book called “Tadhkirah” and available at the Ahmadia website. (may be a translation in English too).

It appears that bahaullah also received some revelations. But the matter becomes ambigous when the Baha’is say that he was God. So how could a God be sending messages to himself??

I do not know what this subject of revelation has to do with the Topic “Baha’i Heaven on earth.”

It is well known that the Jews and the christians and the Hindus all believe that there will be no more revelation. That all revelation has ended. But that is not true.

Planten, it would be good if you identify youself more clearly as an Ahmadiya Muslim. The Ahmadiya Muslim sect is numerically a small fraction of the total Muslim population worldwide, and in many ways is not representative of the beliefs of the larger Muslim groups, e.g. Sunni and Shi’i

 

[planten]

Planten, it would be good if you identify youself more clearly as an Ahmadiya Muslim. The Ahmadiya Muslim sect is numerically a small fraction of the total Muslim population worldwide, and in many ways is not representative of the beliefs of the larger Muslim groups, e.g. Sunni and Shi’i

Usbek de Perse, Thanks for the advice. What you have said above is right. I am introducing myself as a Muslim. I know, as there are baha’is, so there are Ahmadis too. Baha’is number about 6 to 7 Million in the world. The Ahmadis claim to number more than 180 million in the world. That is not a small number, specially when they are united under one leader (Imam).

The subject matter was continuation of revelation. Since all nations have given up any hopes of future revelations ( even those who call themselves as Muslims).It appears that it is the Baha’is only who claim the continuation of revelation. The only other major partner in that field is the Ahmadis, which I have mentioned. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1835-1908) sahib wrote a voluminous book in Urdu titled “The reality of Revelation.” His grand son Mirza Tahir Ahmad (1928-2003) wrote a voluminous book in English, titled " Revelation, Rationality, knowledge and Truth". That book discusses revelation.

So, please stick to the topic and leave the identity alone. Thanks. Try to discuss revelation in present days, present times. Is The God speaking in these days as he used to do in the old times?? That is a good question, if you could answer.