“Where in the deposit of faith” is a nonsensical question. Where in your own mind is your name? Where in your own mind is your telephone number? Where in your own mind is 1+1=2?
Can you not accept these answers, and go your way in peace? Why does this have to eat at you so much, so in turn, you eat at us?
I will add that there have been Popes who have erred. It is clear that you do not distinguish between individuals committing sins, and the Holy Bride of Christ. The fact that you are not able to perceive the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church is a blindness that results from the error of Sola Scriptura, and is apparently fueled by the hatred and bigotry that you have been fed. Is that proverb true “you are what you eat”?
It is, but I understand that you really don’t see it. No, the greater slander is to say that the Word of God is limited to the Scriptures, and to purport that Jesus did not keep His word to the Church.
Somebody already gave you the Catechism. You can see the footnote references for every teaching. Often it will be Scripture. Often it will be from something in Tradition. Sometimes both. All you have to do is pick it up and read it. Go to an official Church source if you are confused. Be freed from the darkness, ja…:newidea:
This is because every-time we give you references you turn a deaf ear to what we say and you do not read them. Instead you go back to your old tired and insincere game of pop-bag or rope-a-dope rhetorical questioning and posturing. Are you so starved for fellowship, interaction and attention in your own protestant bible-only church that you have to come to a Catholic Forum to get attention and affirmation?
It would be difficult to write as history something that had not yet occurred.
Bad news MarcoPolo. He has read the Catechism, and even posted quotes from it here. His heart is so hard that it cannot go in. It is like the seed falling on rocky ground. :crying:
I have a copy of the catechism on my desk. There are “notes” on the bottom of the page. For example on page 126 it has some references that i don’t understand. Are the notes numbered 151, 152 and 153 traditions of some kind? Can you tell me specifically what these are referring to?
And send me that Scripture verse when you have it.
What are you asking for here?So you agree that the apostles knew nothing of this?
I’m not quite sure what this “Deposit of Faith” is. What is it, who determines what is it composed of?
We don’t know exactly how this was done in some parts of the OT. Its possible some things were taught orallly at first. Its also possible that a prophet or someone close to an prophet wrote down first in private and then spoke the word to the people. In the time of Jesus its quite possible that some of the people who heard Him teach wrote it down especially if they thought He was a prophet or speaking for God. By the time Luke is about to write his gospel he certainly implies this in Luke 1:1-4.
That’s not what was said. The apostles most certainly knew of these things, or they would not be part of the deposit of faith. The Assumption of Mary would obviously only be known after the fact.
It is everything given to the apostles, and thus to the Church, by God. And God thus determines what it is composed of.
Yet you believe in “Bible Alone” and “Faith Alone” which neither is found in Scripture… You believe in a teaching of men. There is no getting around this…
Like on 153, where is says “St. Ignatius of Antioch”, that means St Ignatius of Antioch is being quoted. And where it says cf. 1 Cor 2:8, that means go read 1 Cor 2:8. And 152 where it says Dei Filius…that means it is quoting the Church document Dei Filius. It’s really not a complicated system. http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/4.gif
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Disrespecting the Catholic faith is a violation of Forum Rule “Conduct #7”.
I am assuming you clicked on the link “a different and deficient gospel” and read the article? So you are agreeing blackie is right? Then why are you not shocked at your own protestant beliefs?
I would with good reason. I was taught plenty of heresy during my protestant days.
What speciifc Sacred Traditions is St. Ignatius of Antioch and Dei Filius referring to?
There is none. We do have the 4 gospels that are written. That much we agree on. What we don’t have evidence for is any oral teachings of Jesus outside the NT. If there is, then what exactly is it that Jesus spoke that is not recorded in the written Scriptures?
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i did miss it at first but went back to read it. Thanks for pointing it out…
