SPLIT: Dressing up for Mass

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I have never found a scripture reading that tells us that Jesus changed His clothes before He prayed in the garden or before the last supper. He told us that if we have two coats, we should give one to a person who has no coat. Clearly He wants us to wear the same clothes to Church as we do everyday, otherwise, He would have told us to keep one coat to use for Mass!!!

Modesty is of course necessary and prevails inside or out of Church. I was never aware that people paid attention to what others were wearing in church until one person made a comment to me. I rode my motorcycle to mass and was wearing my best leather jacket and jeans. An elderly woman made a point of approaching me after Mass to tell me not to worry. God loves me no matter what I look like :eek:

The clothing on a person’s back is absolutely irrelevant to our Father. He told us that all material goods are irrelevant. He is not impressed. If a person wishes to wear his “Sunday Best” to Church or wears everyday clothes, I rarely even notice, so it makes no difference to me.
 
MtnDwellar said:
The clothing on a person’s back is absolutely irrelevant to our Father. He told us that all material goods are irrelevant. He is not impressed. If a person wishes to wear his “Sunday Best” to Church or wears everyday clothes, I rarely even notice, so it makes no difference to me.
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Do you have a hot line to God’s thoughts?
 
Sailor_Kenshin said:
Where in Scripture does it say ‘Don’t bother to change clothes from gardening or biking when coming to share the Sacrifice of the Mass?’
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Of course scripture does not tell us that exactly… LOL

It does tell us that material things are inconsequential. I could fill the page with quotes, but I particularly like Revelations which tells us that the streets of heaven are paved with gold. On earth we use the most the common and inexpensive materials to pave our streets. In John’s time that would have been dirt or gravel. John is telling us that the most valuable commodity on earth is worthless in heaven. Hence, niceness of clothing is irrelevant to the Father.

Then of course there is the Gospel which I mentioned in an earlier post. If Christ wanted us to have separate clothing for religious gatherings, we would not have been told give one of our two coats to someone who has none. 👍
 
MtnDwellar said:
Of course scripture does not tell us that exactly… LOL

It does tell us that material things are inconsequential. I could fill the page with quotes, but I particularly like Revelations which tells us that the streets of heaven are paved with gold. On earth we use the most the common and inexpensive materials to pave our streets. In John’s time that would have been dirt or gravel. John is telling us that the most valuable commodity on earth is worthless in heaven. Hence, niceness of clothing is irrelevant to the Father.

Then of course there is the Gospel which I mentioned in an earlier post. If Christ wanted us to have separate clothing for religious gatherings, we would not have been told give one of our two coats to someone who has none. 👍
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Are you kidding me? Do you believe in sola scriptura? The church has said for a long time that if we are able to dress nicely for Mass, then we should. If we listen to the church, we do have a direct line to God.

Next, you’ll probably say the priest shouldn’t wear vestments.
 
Sailor_Kenshin said:
Where in Scripture does it say ‘Don’t bother to change clothes from gardening or biking when coming to share the Sacrifice of the Mass?’
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TheMc said:
Are you kidding me? Do you believe in sola scriptura? The church has said for a long time that if we are able to dress nicely for Mass, then we should. If we listen to the church, we do have a direct line to God.

Next, you’ll probably say the priest shouldn’t wear vestments.
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Please do not accuse me of anti-Catholic beliefs. I was answering a question about scripture. Answering a question about scripture does not lead to your accusation.

Also, please do not try to put words in my mouth such as statements about priests not wearing vestments.

Thank you.
 
MtnDwellar said:
I was answering a question about scripture. Answering a question about scripture does not lead to your accusation.
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Yes, but scripture is not the only word in the matter, as you seem to imply by the way you speak about the matter.
 
TheMc said:
Yes, but scripture is not the only word in the matter, as you seem to imply by the way you speak about the matter.
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Of course scripture is not the only word. We have a whole deposit of faith which includes the scriptures, tradition, and the teaching of the magisterium. Scripture cannot be ignored, but neither should any of the other elements.

Have I missed an official teaching of the Church which states that we should wear dress clothing to Mass? If I have missed it, I will change my statements and the way that I dress for Mass.

Otherwise, my thinking is still that modesty must prevail. Besides dressing modestly, simple clothing is completely acceptable. In my opinion, modest clothing is that which does not draw undo attention to oneself.
 
MtnDwellar said:
Of course scripture does not tell us that exactly… LOL

It does tell us that material things are inconsequential. I could fill the page with quotes, but I particularly like Revelations which tells us that the streets of heaven are paved with gold. On earth we use the most the common and inexpensive materials to pave our streets. In John’s time that would have been dirt or gravel. John is telling us that the most valuable commodity on earth is worthless in heaven. Hence, niceness of clothing is irrelevant to the Father.

Then of course there is the Gospel which I mentioned in an earlier post. If Christ wanted us to have separate clothing for religious gatherings, we would not have been told give one of our two coats to someone who has none. 👍
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I don’t get your reasoning at all.

But I do wonder why, if you wouldn’t dress down for a job interview or to go to a decent restaurant, you dress down to meet the King of Kings.
 
MtnDwellar said:
Of course scripture is not the only word. We have a whole deposit of faith which includes the scriptures, tradition, and the teaching of the magisterium. Scripture cannot be ignored, but neither should any of the other elements.

Have I missed an official teaching of the Church which states that we should wear dress clothing to Mass? If I have missed it, I will change my statements and the way that I dress for Mass.

Otherwise, my thinking is still that modesty must prevail. Besides dressing modestly, simple clothing is completely acceptable. In my opinion, modest clothing is that which does not draw undo attention to oneself.
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I assume you will never again dress up when you go to work, or a wedding, for a date, for a job interview, to go to dinner, or even for your own wedding. It’s quite clear that the bible is not telling us to never dress nicely.

As Sailor Kenshin, if you would dress nicely for anything else, would you dress nicely to meet the lord of the universe?
 
I think this debate is getting ridiculous. Saying that because Jesus wore sandals; and some Religious Orders of Friars wear sandals it is okay for the laity to wear sandals to Mass is just plain silly.

Will you be wearing sandals with your suit and tie – oh’ sorry, Jesus did not wear a suit and tie so I suppose that scratches that possibility. Certainly going to be a lot of men in robes next Sunday.:rolleyes:

Why is it so difficult to assume that a person going to church to attend Mass would not want to dress in a clean and proper manner. I don’t think that anyone has said that it is necessary to have “separate” clothing for Mass. But, generally, people do have “Sunday Best.” The same clothes that they would wear to go out to dinner or on a job interview or to a wedding - or even on a first date.

MtnDwellar, what type of clothing do you want to wear to Mass? Do you not own a decent pair of trousers and a clean shirt? That is all that is necessary to be appropriately dressed to present yourself to the Lord. What exactly is it that you are arguing about?🤷

:amen:
 
Sailor_Kenshin said:
I don’t get your reasoning at all.

But I do wonder why, if you wouldn’t dress down for a job interview or to go to a decent restaurant, you dress down to meet the King of Kings.
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TheMc said:
I assume you will never again dress up when you go to work, or a wedding, for a date, for a job interview, to go to dinner, or even for your own wedding. It’s quite clear that the bible is not telling us to never dress nicely.

As Sailor Kenshin, if you would dress nicely for anything else, would you dress nicely to meet the lord of the universe?
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You are mixing apples and oranges. Job interviews or nice restaurants have nothing to do with Mass. Why not compare going to Mass with going to a hockey game or bowling night? They have about as much to do with Mass as job interviews and restaurants.
 
MtnDwellar said:
You are mixing apples and oranges. Job interviews or nice restaurants have nothing to do with Mass. Why not compare going to Mass with going to a hockey game or bowling night? They have about as much to do with Mass as job interviews and restaurants.
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The point I’m trying to make, and Sailor is probably making too, is that you dress up for these things. Since Mass is even more important than these things, why wouldn’t you dress your best for Mass?
 
mullenpm said:
MtnDwellar, what type of clothing do you want to wear to Mass? Do you not own a decent pair of trousers and a clean shirt? That is all that is necessary to be appropriately dressed to present yourself to the Lord. What exactly is it that you are arguing about?🤷

:amen:
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Thank you.
 
TheMc said:
The point I’m trying to make, and Sailor is probably making too, is that you dress up for these things. Since Mass is even more important than these things, why wouldn’t you dress your best for Mass?
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The way that one dresses is not directly related to the importance of an occasion. The birth of one’s child is generally considered a very important event. No one dresses up.

It is a materialistic view that associates clothing with the state of a person’s heart. Clothing does not reflect upon a person’s sincerity or the importance that he places upon the sacrifice of the Mass.

I go to Mass to participate in the Passion of Christ. If I was on the walk to Calvary, I doubt that I would be wearing a suit and tie. Everyday clothing is completely acceptable for participation in the sacrifice.
 
TheMc said:
The point I’m trying to make, and Sailor is probably making too, is that you dress up for these things. Since Mass is even more important than these things, why wouldn’t you dress your best for Mass?
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Well…I would wear a nice pair of jeans to a nice restaurant…so…in that way of thinking then I’m ok in my jeans… MODEST jeans mind you.

For work I wear slacks (dockers)…nothing fancy…but yet there are those here on the forumn that think thats not enough…especially for women. They want us in dresses or skirts…something I do not own.

Seriously…why are other people so concerned about what other people are wearing? As long as its modest.

As I pointed out in another thread…when people say you should dress for Mass like you are meeting the Queen, or President or someone like that…it just has me wondering. I go to daily Mass…I am not dressing everyday like I’m meeting the Queen. I’m wearing work clothes…mostly dockers…and jeans on Fridays. Maybe Capri’s during the summer…
 
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Not a bad idea 👍
 
I have a large closet of clothes.

Some clothes are appropriate for Mass, some for wearing to the office to work.

Some are for going out to a pub, the beach, the amusement park, a club, date, or a party. Others, for attending sporting events or even a concert. Some items are dressy for special occasions, etc.

I know what is fine for one thing is not for another. I know not to show lots of skin at church, but wearing a swim suit to a pool or a beach is appropriate.
 
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