SPLIT: Homosexuals are in loving relationships

[Cavaille-Coll]

Whoever labeled you a troll was dead-on. You’re just here to argue.

 

[Teen4Christ]

Whoever labeled you a troll was dead-on. You’re just here to argue.

No, i’m not here to argue. I signed up with intentions of fellowship with people who seemed truly christ like, and you know what happened? once I stated my views and homosexuality and abortion, people started labeling me as a troll, so you know what? I started focusing on educating people about those subjects, if i’m a troll for that. So be it

God bless you

 

[kage_ar]

No, i’m not here to argue. I signed up with intentions of fellowship with people who seemed truly christ like, and you know what happened? once I stated my views and homosexuality and abortion, people started labeling me as a troll, so you know what? I started focusing on educating people about those subjects, if i’m a troll for that. So be it

God bless you

Your views directly oppose Christ, so, how can you be “4Christ”?

 

[Teen4Christ]

Your views directly oppose Christ, so, how can you be “4Christ”?

Would you prefer that I made up lies about homosexuals and and talked about their agenda and how they want to recruit children? would that make me 4christ?
John 3:16
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believe in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.”

Not just heterosexuals

 

[kage_ar]

Would you prefer that I made up lies about homosexuals and and talked about their agenda and how they want to recruit children? would that make me 4christ?
John 3:16
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believe in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.”

Not just heterosexuals

How bout you find one verse, just one, where Jesus condoned or encouraged sexual sin? How about where He said that murder was okey dokey?

 

[Cavaille-Coll]

I started focusing on educating people about those subjects, if i’m a troll for that. So be it

God bless you

I hate to pull rank, but at age 18, you are trying to educate me, almost 40 from the Bay Area, about homosexuality? Whatever face you try to paint it with, homosexual behavior is still sinful. What’s more, it is physically dangerous to the human body (aside from diseases), and if you want more details, ask a physician.

God bless you too.

 

[kage_ar]

Would you prefer that I made up lies about homosexuals and and talked about their agenda and how they want to recruit children? would that make me 4christ?
John 3:16
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believe in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.”

Not just heterosexuals

Bonus points, find the verse where Jesus told the rich young man how to attain eternal life, what was required?

 

[ericka1701]

Can’t it be both

No, it can’t. St Paul (you know, one of the Church Fathers?) wrote in 1 Corinthians 10:23 that 23"Everything is permissible"—but not everything is beneficial. “Everything is permissible”—but not everything is constructive."

This passage, taken out of context would seem to fit with your views, but as far as everything being “permissible”, through the saving power of Jesus’s crucifixion, those “permissible” things, with repentence can be forgiven. In other places in the bible, it mentions that one should only forgive others of their sins if they repent. Luke 17:3 “So watch yourselves. If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him.” There is nothing said about forgiving the unrepentent sin.

I pray that you will find your way. I was very much like you once, at about the same age, in fact. Yes, God is a loving God, but he is also a God of justice, and our sins separate us from that love. That’s why the sacrament of confession (penance, reconcilliation… what have you) is needed before one can be properly disposed to received the Eucharist. I pray that God will bend your will to his. I hope you pray the same.

God Bless!
Ericka

 

[palmas85]

Like heterosexuals

I know all about gay pride parades, I’ve marched before. Some of the behavior is kind of iffy at times, but it’s human nature.

Kind of iffy? Thats a good one. I’ll say this and I will let it go since I think it is painfully obvious why you are here. You say that you want to educate us. About what?

About a group of people who for the most wrap their entire identity around deviant forms of sexual conduct and celebrate it? Thats not good be it hetero or homosexual. The problem is that within the homosexual community that behavior is the norm and not the exception. They generally are so wrapped up in their sexuality it becomes virtually all that matters to them. Hence the outlandish scenes at Gay Pride parades.

Or maybe how that behavior is perfectly OK because sexuality is a gift from God and should be celebrated in all it’s forms? No matter how deviant they may be?

And pray tell. just how do you, with your very limited experience, propose to educate anyone about these things? I somehow doubt that you are much of an authority on that subject or anything else for that matter.

 

[Teen4Christ]

Kind of iffy? Thats a good one. I’ll say this and I will let it go since I think it is painfully obvious why you are here. You say that you want to educate us. About what?

About a group of people who for the most wrap their entire identity around deviant forms of sexual conduct and celebrate it? Thats not good be it hetero or homosexual. The problem is that within the homosexual community that behavior is the norm and not the exception. They generally are so wrapped up in their sexuality it becomes virtually all that matters to them. Hence the outlandish scenes at Gay Pride parades.

Or maybe how that behavior is perfectly OK because sexuality is a gift from God and should be celebrated in all it’s forms? No matter how deviant they may be?

And pray tell. just how do you, with your very limited experience, propose to educate anyone about these things? I somehow doubt that you are much of an authority on that subject or anything else for that matter.

I’m not an authority on the subject, but I do have life experience on the subject.

 

[thistle]

Maybe you were hangiing with the wrong crowd? There are indeed alot of homosexuals who have a ton of different sex partners, I myself know, as I used to sleep with a different guy(sometimes 2 or 3) every night, but I’m now in a committed relationship and also know many SS couples who are in a loving relationship

They are not in a loving relationship. They are in a lustful relationship and a disordered love.

 

[TMC]

How bout you find one verse, just one, where Jesus condoned or encouraged sexual sin?

Can you provide one where He spoke about homosexuality?

How about where He said that murder was okey dokey?

Where did this come from? He attended a gay marriage, not a murder. What does murder have to do with sexual orientation?

 

[thistle]

Can you provide one where He spoke about homosexuality?

Where did this come from? He attended a gay marriage, not a murder. What does murder have to do with sexual orientation?

Jesus is God.
The Bible is the word of God.
The Bible has many verses that condemns homosexuality.

 

[Teen4Christ]

Jesus is God.
The Bible is the word of God.
The Bible has many verses that condemns homosexuality.

They also have verses that say you can sell your daughter into slavery, if you work on the sabbath you should be put to death, you can’t wear garments made from two different threads, can’t touch the skin of a pig, eat most seafood, or plant crops side by side.

Why don’t we follow those:shrug:

 

[Jean_Anthony]

abc

 

[Jean_Anthony]

[Moved from old thread:]

muffinmojo: As for the gay pride parade discussion, would any mentally healthy heterosexual parade around wearing sex toys, toting banners talking about their sex life, and even on occasion performing sex acts in public? Of course not. This behaviour is disgusting and unacceptable among straight people, it is unacceptable among gays. Homosexuality is incompatible with Christianity, and with civilization. Gays should not be hated, and Teen4Christ, you are right that Christ came for all, not just heterosexuals. You know what ‘all’ means? It means all sinners, provided they repent. Repenting means giving up, and moving on.

 

[Annn]

I don’t know where exactly people got the idea that gay people “usually aren’t” in monogamous relationships. How many queer people do you guys actually know? Most of the gay people I know are under 30, and it seems that as a body of individuals they behave similarly to the straight people I know. Some of them sleep around, some of them date casually, some of them are in monogamous relationships, and some of them have made life commitments. I live in a large “gay-friendly” city where there are many out gay people, and it seems that gay people in terms of relationships are similar to straight people. Some young gays want commitment, others haven’t found “the one”.

I think that as queer people feel more comfortable being “out” more queer people will feel comfortable being in long-term relationships. It’s very hard to be with someone who is insecure about who he/she is.

On a slightly off-topic note, from the queer people I know, it seems the women are much more likely to “couple” than the men. A common joke inside the community is:

What does a lesbian bring to the second date?

(a UHaul.)

 

[Annn]

To add to my post: I have, however, read much about the “downlow” culture, where men who identify as straight or bisexual and are married or partnered with a hetero partner secretly engage in often unsafe sex with other men.

 

[hadassahjones]

The thing about homosexuality is that it is a choice. Many people have homosexual leanings or desires. I’m straight, and I have engaged in such activities with girls before. A lot of young women, especially, seem to be experimenting, sometimes because it’s “cool” these days, others because of pressure from boyfriends. Straight guys don’t experiment nearly as often, from what I can tell.

Still, homosexuality is like any other sexual deviance, you don’t have to engage in it, if it is harmful to you or someone else. In this case, homosexuality is clearly forbidden in the Bible, therefore it can’t be healthy for anyone. I’ve heard people say before that it’s unfair to force someone to limit how they express themselves sexually—if you care about someone, or yourself, it won’t matter so much. I’ve been into light BDSM for several years, and the man I am with never experimented with it at all until he met me. He plays to the extent he is able, but it’s not always as much as I want. Because I love him, and I know it doesn’t do anything for him, I don’t mind limiting myself to what is comfortable for him. Likewise, if you know that homosexuality endangers you and your partner’s souls, then you will choose not to engage in it.

Gay pride parades are an endless source of annoyance for me. No one wants to see anyone parade their sexuality down Main Street for all the world to see. You never see any other group of people who engage in sexual activity that is not considered “mainstream” doing such a thing. You would certainly never see any of the BDSM set walking through town with whips and chains and their subs on leashes.

 

[fbl9]

while remaining faithful to the teachings of the Church on this matter…i could support a relationship(not a marriage) in which the two partners remain chaste to and from each other…by this i mean they confide in each other and support each other in their day to day battle against the urges of their flesh.support each other as would a husband and wife do yet not partaking in union of the flesh.