Rudy,
As a Physician, trained hypnotherapist and student of General Semantics, NLP and Neurosemantics I believe that you may want to consider that there is only one mind and not two. Within your mind you have access to stored information by recall and Imagination as a source of information. It is what you are aware of and what you are not aware of. What you are aware of or conscious also directs the subconscious and provides information for change thus the forming.
How do you know we do not reason subconsciously? We reason consciously to engage what we are not aware of and change what we are not aware by reasoning it to acceptance.
While you say we are prone to distortion and error a tenet of NLP is that at the submodality level or the first area of forming thought after taking information in via our senses we all have filters or things like distortion, generalities, deletions that operate to filter the information to the meta levels and in fact what you call subconscious is actually at a higher level of conscience than conscience.
Things that are stored in your subconscience are not necessarily unavailable and you can retrieve them consciously through self reflective thinking. What you reason to be acceptable consciously gets stored subconsciously as a value and in that you are forming your conscience.
Now concerning the link to the eternal as it regards your conscious and subconscious I don’t know. There are paradigms of the collective subconscious and collective conscious.
I would imagine that any suggestion to believing that your created subconscious is tapped into the almighty would only be, in my opinion, when filled with grace, for if you are to mingle sin with that which is not sin would not make sense, now would it?
I did not make the claim that the subconscious did not reason. I merely interpreted what Wisedom was saying. But…
My understanding is that NLP in part treats the prime directive as a method of change. The prime directive being that which is designed to run and protect the body and bring to fruition the beliefs of the person… “as a man thinks, so is he…” The (admittedly brief) NLP I’ve researched taught that the subconscious mind will carry out whatever you give it until manifestation. By changing the belief while honoring the prime directive, you can literally change who you are. When the beliefs are flawed, the subconscious carries the belief and creates the life circumstances to support it. As Ernest Holmes states in his book on the subconscious mind, it is as the intelligence of the soil that carries forth the seed whether wheat or weed. It matters not nor does it distinguish. Whatever you give it, it will act out. Hence, the reason so many people have saboteur patterns in their behavior that everybody can recognize but the person himself. Surely with your training you see people who carry out self-destructive patterns according to their own flawed maps. It is in the NLP presuppositions that if you change the map and give the person a better way to achieve the same results, that person will change.
Now, you say that the subconscious is a higher level of mind that can reason. That statement really does not conflict with the opinion that the subconscious will carry out its directive. That directive being in this case to find a solution to a problem. So what directs the subconscious mind to reason in one case and not the other? Why can it not figure this out on its own and save a world of people from themselves and their destructive thinking patterns?
Being tapped into the almighty through the subconscious does not necessarily have to be only in a state of grace, as God is never away from us, we are away from God in sin. Isn’t this a foundational teaching of the church, that God is always with us, we just turn from God when we sin? How can God not be in us at any given moment? Where can we go to leave Gods presence? So then it would all have to come down to a state of being, either in sync with God or not. In essence, we are always in Gods presence, we just cannot experience or express it, because we have chosen not to see Him. I don’t remember which of the saints described Hell as a state of being in the presence of God and not being able to receive or reciprocate his love. Then hating ourselves and Him for being in such a state. That would mean that even in hell we cannot leave the presence of God. But we cannot appreciate or enjoy it either.
I understand that this is all a far cry from Catholicism, but none the less, interesting to ponder. So I am left with the questions, is mind separate from spirit and where does God engage us, at what level? Surely no matter what part of us we look to, we can find his presence if we are in harmony with him, including the mind.
I also reserve the right to be wrong on any of the above statements concerning NLP. It has been a while, and my memory may need refreshing.
