SPLIT: Questions Catholics Will Not Answer.

[guanophore]

i have to hand it to you. You have probably done more to turn people against me than any other.

That is an interesting commentary, since all I did was repost what you had written. So you believe the things you wrote were not, in themselves, offensive to forum members? You do not believe you were insulting the faith of those here?

 

[geraldffff]

People who do not believe in accordance with what the Church teaches are NOT CATHOLIC! They may think they are, and they may call themselves Catholic, but what defines a Catholic is unity in doctrine. IF they are not unified with the doctrine taught by Jesus and the Apostles, then they are not catholic. Individual opinions are irrelvant. All that matters is what Jesus taught.

Yes there are a lot of pretenders out there but might I add the doctrines of The Roman Catholic Church are far more liberating than any other group that claims to be Christian.

 

[Uncle_Norbert]

Funny…for YEARS I’ve been telling my friends that it’s EASY being Catholic. And they tell me I’m nuts.

Through Scripture and Tradition, it’s all so beautifully laid out for us, unlike our non-denominational brethren, who are all winging it solo…

 

[geraldffff]

Funny…for YEARS I’ve been telling my friends that it’s EASY being Catholic. And they tell me I’m nuts.

Through Scripture and Tradition, it’s all so beautifully laid out for us, unlike our non-denominational brethren, who are all winging it solo…

My younger sister and another person in her nondenom congregation are going through their trials as the pastor of a couple years is putting on the pressure for turning over information about their incomes to make sure they are giving enough. One of theses are talking about starting another church with another relative. Makes me so happy I am Catholic.

 

[geraldffff]

That is an interesting commentary, since all I did was repost what you had written. So you believe the things you wrote were not, in themselves, offensive to forum members? You do not believe you were insulting the faith of those here?

I have not seen any offensive posts but then again I have not read the whole thread.

 

[Uncle_Norbert]

My wife’s sister and her husband went through that a few years back when they moved to another city. They are Baptist, and went to several churches. When the applied for membership, the application required tax information for that last three years.

Lotsa luck !

Think of all the good works that could be done, on a world wide basis, if we didn’t have so many splintered off churches, each building their own edifices and support facilities?

 

[Pwrlftr]

My wife’s sister and her husband went through that a few years back when they moved to another city. They are Baptist, and went to several churches. When the applied for membership, the application required tax information for that last three years.

Lotsa luck !

Think of all the good works that could be done, on a world wide basis, if we didn’t have so many splintered off churches, each building their own edifices and support facilities?

Could you share the name and city of the Baptist church that requested the tax information?

 

[Old_Scholar]

No one has ever said that people can’t interpret the Scriptures to make use of them devotionally.

What people are saying is that nobody except the Magisterium can take a passage of Scripture and say, “This, and nothing else, is what this passage means,” or forbid others from getting something else out of it.

What Protestants are not allowed to do is say that any Catholic, especially the Magisterium, is “wrong” in their interpretation of Scripture. Protestants are free to do or believe whatever they like, apart from that.

You don’t.

Obviously, it is Mary, since the child is Jesus.

You aren’t reading chapter 12 far enough. The woman isn’t Mary and Jesus is talking about His church here. Not a woman. To use ‘woman’ is the way the writers referred to many things in those days. Just read the chapter a little further and you will see the truth.

 

[Uncle_Norbert]

Don’t know for sure, but it was more than one Baptist church, and they were all in the Irving, TX area.

 

[Pwrlftr]

I have not seen any offensive posts but then again I have not read the whole thread.

They are there, you might have missed them and they ain’t all from non-Catholics.

While most of the Catholic posters here are very charitable, there are a few and a seemingly growing number of Catholic posters that have troubles posting anything if it isn’t insulting.

 

[geraldffff]

My wife’s sister and her husband went through that a few years back when they moved to another city. They are Baptist, and went to several churches. When the applied for membership, the application required tax information for that last three years.

Lotsa luck !

Think of all the good works that could be done, on a world wide basis, if we didn’t have so many splintered off churches, each building their own edifices and support facilities?

My two oldest children are avid Roman Catholics and tithe which I think is great but they never learned it from me It’s sad to say. I’m still working on my trust issues.

 

[Pwrlftr]

Don’t know for sure, but it was more than one Baptist church, and they were all in the Irving, TX area.

I’ve never heard of anything like that…seems strange. I think I would find another Baptist church.

 

[Old_Scholar]

Actually, the Catholic Church pre-date Constantine time. Old Scholar by the way has no credibility when teaching history. His information is very lacking.

The Catholic Church was indeed formed during apostolic times. It is the Roman Catholic Church, a completely different church, that came after Constantine. It is not the same church now.

So we see there was already a Catholic Church at the time of Emperor Constantine. The Pope who reign at the time was Pope St. Sylvester I (314-335).

However there was no pope. The papacy had not been invented yet.

St. Ignatius of Antioch is the disciple of St. John the Apostle. He is one of the four Apostolic Fathers, who were taught by the Apostles themselves.

Ignatius was ordained by Paul.

If you even want to go back. Clement of Rome the 3rd Successor of Peter wrote the Letters to the Corinthians in the year 90 AD. At the time the some of the Apostles were also living.

All the apostles were dead by 90 A.D. John was the last to die.

The first Pope is Peter, whom Jesus Christ build his Church upon (see Matthew 16:18).

This has proven to not be true time and again. It is simply an invention of the RCC, not the Catholic Church.

 

[geraldffff]

They are there, you might have missed them and they ain’t all from non-Catholics.

While most of the Catholic posters here are very charitable, there are a few and a seemingly growing number of Catholic posters that have troubles posting anything if it isn’t insulting.

I know I was guilty of making unprofitable if not uncharitable remarks in some of my posts a few months ago. I’m a work in progress and I hope what I do profits the Lord.

 

[Old_Scholar]

Funny…for YEARS I’ve been telling my friends that it’s EASY being Catholic. And they tell me I’m nuts.

Through Scripture and Tradition, it’s all so beautifully laid out for us, unlike our non-denominational brethren, who are all winging it solo…

That’s true. Just believe whatever you want. You can always say it’s tradition…

 

[Pwrlftr]

I know I was guilty of making unprofitable if not uncharitable remarks in some of my posts a few months ago. I’m a work in progress and I hope what I do profits the Lord.

I struggle with this from time to time myself.

 

[geraldffff]

That’s true. Just believe whatever you want. You can always say it’s tradition…

Why are you so angry at Catholics?

 

[juliamajor]

There are quite a number of extra biblical references to Christ.
For example:

• Flavius Josephus (AD 37?-101?) mentions Jesus - Antiquities, Book 18, ch. 3,

• Tacitus (A.D. c.55-A.D. c.117, Roman historian) mentions “christus” who is Jesus - Annals

• Thallus Circa AD 52, eclipse of the sun. Thallus wrote a history of the Eastern Mediterranean world from the Trojan War to his own time. His writings are only found as citations by others. Julius Africanus who wrote about AD 221 mentioned Thallus’ account of an eclipse of the sun.

Oh honey,honey-sorry but your wrong.Tacitus talks about christians during the neronian era-resurrection is not mentioned/Flavius Josephus quote is highly disputed with most scholars speaking against"testamonium Flavianum" as and authentic.thallus’s writing so vague and fragmented a questionable as to be useless.the resurrection is still a matter of faith-and not of history.

 

[Old_Scholar]

Why are you so angry at Catholics?

**I am not angry at Catholics. I think most Catholics are good Christians. I am not happy with the Roman Catholic Church because they have changed the Catholic Church to what it is today.

Today it teaches false doctrines, that are contradictory to the Scriptures and makes claims that the pope is the Vicar of Christ on earth and Christ taught just the opposite.

Originally the Catholic Church was great and followed the apostolic teaching. This was for the first few centuries then the changes began. If you will simply read the early church fathers writings, you will see what all has been changed. They all taught that tradition was not right if it could not be supported by Scripture and look at what we have today. Tradition trumping Scripture, claims of infallibility for the church and for the pope. I love Catholics and hope they all achieve their goals which I believe are to reign with Christ in His kingdom, but if they continue to believe the false doctrines taught by the RCC then I worry about them making it.

The problem is that if they would just read the early church fathers writings, they would see the false doctrines and how they came about. It’s sad, but I certainly don’t hate any Catholics. I am a Catholic but not a Roman Catholic.

The RCC doesn’t like to have them reading Scriptures but they don’t mind them reading the early fathers and that is where the truth is.**

 

[Stephen_C]

That’s true. Just believe whatever you want. You can always say it’s tradition…

No actually that is not true. I could say that you can believe what you want. Then do the ole cut and paste of unrelated and partial/out of context of scripture to fit what you believe which is as best I can see is If it is Catholic it is wrong. That is your whole theology. That is your Doctrine. That is your Tradition. No matter how you slice and dice it. No matter you present it. No matter how you make up history. It is still the same. You are a member of the “If it is Catholic it is wrong” church. That is your idle. That is your Tradition. So no matter what we say here. You keep saying the same ole thing. Have you read anything here? Have you? ALL YOUR QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED! A few times over. And quite frankly I am so tired of your Hateful anti-Catholic clap trap.