SPLIT: Reliability of Bible Translations

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driscll_books said:
Sure He can. Scripture states clearly, “Come, let us reason together.” How could He say this and not have the power of thought.
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Good! Thank you for the clarity.

I’ve specialized in the reading of a different Bible, and would appreciate Chapter and Verse for the above if you know it. Even just the Chapter would help.

Thanks!
 
greylorn said:
Good! Thank you for the clarity.

I’ve specialized in the reading of a different Bible, and would appreciate Chapter and Verse for the above if you know it. Even just the Chapter would help.

Thanks!
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Isaiah 1:18 “Come now, let us reason together,” says the LORD. “Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red as crimson, they shall be like wool.”
 
po18guy said:
Isaiah 1:18 “Come now, let us reason together,” says the LORD. “Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red as crimson, they shall be like wool.”
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Interesting. My bible is the “Confraternity…” version copyright 1961. In it, the first sentence of Isiah 1:18 reads,

“Come now, let us set things right, says the Lord:”

The rest of the verse you quoted is identical.

This points up one of many troubles I have with the Bible, and why I do not trust it as the word of our Creator, only as the words of men, oft mistranslated.

I prefer the “Let us reason together,” phrase, for it better fits my understanding of God as an entity Who Thinks, big time. But the same verse in my bible cannot support my belief.

Thank you for passing this along.
 
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greylorn said:
troubles I have with the Bible, and why I do not trust it as the word of our Creator, only as the words of men, oft mistranslated
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Many think so, but it’s wrong.
The Bible is of course NOT the words of men, but inspired of the Holy Spirit.

The different translations have many reasons. Let’s forget the translations of sects though.

True translations however, the Catholic Bible Edition does differ, because it’s translators tried their best to make it understood to everyone. The more educated as the less educated. Take Children-Bibles.
They all say the same in other words.

Let’s encircle the verse in question Isaiah 1:18.

The Bible “New International Version” says
Come now, let us reason together

Yours reads:
Come now, let us set things right

German Cath. Bible:
Come now, let us reason together

Catholic/Protestant Consolidated Bible
Come and let’s see who of us is right

Lutheran Bible:
Come now, let us reason together

Good News Bible:
Come on let’s see who’s right – you or I

So you see, they all say exactly same thing.

If translated in different languages we have the same problem, since same words often mean different things; so we have to use other words.

The Bible remains “written” by God (inspired by the Holy Spirit)
You find not a single verse that tells you something else in another Bible! (except Sect Bibles).

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Even though Scripture itself is entirely inerrant

errors are possible in a Bible edition due to:

copyist or printer errors
translation errors
editing errors
 
Ron_Conte said:
Even though Scripture itself is entirely inerrant

errors are possible in a Bible edition due to:

copyist or printer errors
translation errors
editing errors
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That’s right. If we had the authographed manuscripts from the authors themselves we would not have textual errors, but since we have had centuries of hand copied manuscripts then we have some textual errors from time to time. Which is no big deal since the amazing thing is that even some of the versions that do have textual errors are still preserved marvelously when you compare it to any other historical documents.
 
Hi Greylorn,

יח לְכוּ-נָא וְנִוָּכְחָה, יֹאמַר יְהוָה; אִם-יִהְיוּ חֲטָאֵיכֶם כַּשָּׁנִים כַּשֶּׁלֶג יַלְבִּינוּ, אִם-יַאְדִּימוּ כַתּוֹלָע כַּצֶּמֶר יִהְיוּ. 18

Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD; though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool

The bible is the best preserved ancient text that there is and there are more manuscripts of the bible than of any ancient writers. The text of the bible we have today can be trusted 100% as to its spiritual message. There are relatively few doubtful passages. More serious are the problems of understanding ancient literary genres and the socio-historical environment in which the sacred texts developped.

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It is not certain that the original manuscripts (OM) had no incidental errors, those not affecting the meaning of the text, such as a spelling error. Since this type of error has no effect on meaning, and since God knew that the OM would not be be preserved, God had no reason to prevent this meaningless type of error.

Extant manuscripts have a very large number of copyist typographical errors.

In addition, there are perhaps over one million textual variants in all the manuscripts that are extant in all the books of the Bible.

Amazingly, the doctrines that the Bible teaches are not endangered by the large number of typos, nor by the large number of variants.
 
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