Haha, not quite gonna buy that, my friend.Actually the Word interprets itself,all you need is eyes too see
Okay, then lets see how your eyes see this:Actually the Word interprets itself,all you need is eyes too see
Scripture is clear, my friend, in your own words.(Jesus) said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, so I send you.” 22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the holy Spirit. 23 Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained.”
Actually the Word interprets itself,all you need is eyes too see
Acts 8:30-31. This is a strange scene if the Word is supposed to interpret itself.Philip ran up and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet, and said, “Do you understand what you are reading?”
And he said, “Well, how could I, unless someone guides me?” And he invited Philip to come up and sit with him.
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Originally Posted by n2thelight
Actually the Word interprets itself,all you need is eyes too see
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Philip ran up and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet, and said, “Do you understand what you are reading?”
And he said, “Well, how could I, unless someone guides me?” And he invited Philip to come up and sit with him.
Notice I said you must have eyes to see,now lets look at the verses after.Acts 8:30-31. This is a strange scene if the Word is supposed to interpret itself.
How can you know what is Scripture if the Bible doesn’t tell you what is Scripture?How can you know if someone is teaching correctly if you can’t check out what is taught with scripture
You’re so quick to answer this one, but hmmmmm… let’s say, how about ummmmmm… John 20?Notice I said you must have eyes to see,now lets look at the verses after.
So, you say that Scripture does intrepret Scripture but we may not understand Scripture without help from a teacher. That means Scripture doesn’t fully interpret itself to the reader, right?Let me say this,there is nothing wrong with a good teacher,because that is one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit.And sometimes it takes a good teacher for your eyes to be opened,so you can see.
I read John 20:21 and it tells me that Jesus authorized certain men to forgive sins. So in your view why isn’t “Scripture interpreting itself” correctly for me?Still, man cannot forgive sins
Case in point. You teach that “man cannot forgive sins,” yet John 20:21 teaches that Jesus authorized certain men to forgive sins. Under your principles, I should choose to believe Scripture’s teaching rather than your teaching, correct?How can you know if someone is teaching correctly if you can’t check out what is taught with scripture
If a book was written by a prophet or apostle would that qualify as Scripture?cfrancis;3952435]How can you know what is Scripture if the Bible doesn’t tell you what is Scripture?
Of course, you’re not going to answer these questions, so I don’t know why any of us bother…
To answer this question if a Tradition goes against Scripture would require us to know specifically all the Traditions of the Catholic church. Such a list as far as i can tell does not exist so we can’t know.No Catholic tradition goes “against” the Scriptures. To make such a claim is to fail to understand both Scripture and Tradition.
So, by this logic, the letter to the Hebrews shouldn’t be in the Bible, because we don’t know for sure who wrote it. Also, many letters and gospels were circulating in the first century that claimed to be written by an Apostle. 1 and 2 Corinthians are technically 2nd and 3rd Corinthians. Ever wonder why St Paul’s first letter to the Corinthians isn’t found in Scripture?If a book was written by a prophet or apostle would that qualify as Scripture?
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Originally Posted by justasking4
If a book was written by a prophet or apostle would that qualify as Scripture?
If this was the only criteria you would be correct. There were other ways to determine if a book or letter was Scripture than just this one.Pixie Dust
So, by this logic, the letter to the Hebrews shouldn’t be in the Bible, because we don’t know for sure who wrote it.
Yes and i have wondered of other writings that the apostles may have written. There are a couple reasons why we don’t have more and that is they were lost or God determined by His Spirit working through the church at the time the limits of the canon.Also, many letters and gospels were circulating in the first century that claimed to be written by an Apostle. 1 and 2 Corinthians are technically 2nd and 3rd Corinthians. Ever wonder why St Paul’s first letter to the Corinthians isn’t found in Scripture?
No, not automatically.If a book was written by a prophet or apostle would that qualify as Scripture?
Take a look at the Catechism and tell me what goes against Scripture. That would be a good place to start in my opinion.To answer this question if a Tradition goes against Scripture would require us to know specifically all the Traditions of the Catholic church. Such a list as far as i can tell does not exist so we can’t know.
Sure it does. It’s called The Catechism of the Catholic Church, and it contains all the teachings that the universal church holds in common throughout all the world.To answer this question if a Tradition goes against Scripture would require us to know specifically all the Traditions of the Catholic church. Such a list as far as i can tell does not exist so we can’t know.
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Sure it does. It’s called The Catechism of the Catholic Church, and it contains all the teachings that the universal church holds in common throughout all the world.
Let me ask this.does the Catechism,explain scripture or are they traditions or both?It is, in the words of Pope John Paul the Great, “a sure norm for teaching the faith”. In the the Apostolic constitution Fidei Depositum, it was written that, “very many have expressed the desire that a catechism or compendium of all catholic doctrine regarding the faith and morals be composed”. The Catechism, then, is this book.
Thank you for the answer. All that is important to our Faith is covered in one way or other in the Catechism. I really need to open it up and read it, rather than just using it as a reference. Thanks for the reminder. I, though not confused about the Faith, am finding myself in need of something to bring me closer to God through the Faith. This, along with the Bible, is where I am heading to tonight. So thank you again. God bless you for your thread.Sure it does. It’s called The Catechism of the Catholic Church, and it contains all the teachings that the universal church holds in common throughout all the world.
It is, in the words of Pope John Paul the Great, “a sure norm for teaching the faith”. In the the Apostolic constitution Fidei Depositum, it was written that, “very many have expressed the desire that a catechism or compendium of all catholic doctrine regarding the faith and morals be composed”. The Catechism, then, is this book.
That isn’t true. Jesus cited the unwritten Jewish tradition that the prophet Zechariah died between the altar and the sanctuary (Luke 11:51). Nowhere does the Old Testament describe that incident, so Jesus wasn’t quoting from the Scriptures.Ive never seen anywhere that Christ said have ye not heard,it was always,have ye not read.When satan tempted Christ did Christ say have you heard?No!He said it is written