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Out of interest, what is your opinion of the Koran and the Bhagavad Gita?
 
kaid100 said:
Out of interest, what is your opinion of the Koran and the Bhagavad Gita?
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The two are wildly different from each other, and both are wildly different from the Bible. The Bible is very much rooted in history, at least in those books that are intended to be history. It has names, places, chronologies, customs, culture, and other kinds of historical merit. The Qur’an pretty much has none of that - it is just a bunch of sayings material that is strung together rather disjointedly. If you’ve read it, you know what I mean. I am just beginning a historical survey of it, and things are already in stark contrast to how the Bible was formed and put together. Islam would not have lasted very long in the west - western scholarship would have torn it to pieces as it is beginning to do now.
 
I tend to respect the beliefs of others and genearlly find truth in the religions of the world. However, I find a concentration of truth in the Bible and in Tradition. Reading other books allows me to find small pearls of wisdom, but I have to work at it harder. As soon as I read the New Testament I find truth in every verse.
 
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Out of interest, what is your opinion of the Koran and the Bhagavad Gita?
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I cannot really comment on the Qur’an as I have only read small bits of it.

The Bhagavad Gita is an excellent read, much easier to follow than the Bible. It is a report of a single conversation between Krishna and Arjuna so it does not jump around nearly as much as the Bible. It tends to say things more directly than the Bible and not need quite so much interpretation.

The pictures are good too. That is the Transfiguration scene from Chapter Eleven.

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They all contain elements—shards if you will— of the truth.
 
Is the Quran Muhummad’s respectful diary? no offense intended
 
FightingFat said:
There’s most of the Bible re-told in it as well as stuff from Mohammed.
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In one of the Hadiths (I don’t know which ) It states that Miriam (Mary) the mother of Jesus is none other than Miriam, the sister of Moses …
 
To be truthful, I’m just not interested. Leaping from protestantism to Catholicism was a long (many years) journey for me and I know that I am in “the true place”. The Quran, BOM, Watchtower, and whatever, I do not recognize as the word of God so I don’t care enough about those writings to do more than skim them. Therefore, I have no other opinion of them.
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I have read an English version of the Quran twice. I am not familiar with the Bhagavad Gita although I have of course heard of it.

My opinion of the Quran is that it is susceptible, like all literature, whether or not it comes from God, of multiple interpretations. I do not know who might be authorized to give us an official interpretation. I presume the same of the Bhagavad Gita.

To the best of my understanding, I do not find the Quran to be intrinsically any more violent or oppressive than the Old and New Testaments which I accept as Scripture, being Catholic. I think it is probable therefore, that adherence to the Quran is compatible with a mild and passive religion that does not impose itself violently on other people, just as the distinctively Christian Scriptures which I accept. It all depends on interpretation.
 
I’'m generally of the opinion that ALL religious texts are in their own way both beautiful as items of literature and contain some universal truths, although I am always going to be biased towards the Bible simply as I hold it to be THE truth.

I’m proud to be able to say that by the age of 13 I’d read all the major religious texts of the world (in translation!). Now I’ve learnt Arabic (and read the Qur’an in Arabic), Hebrew and Greek and regularly study the Bible in these languages.
 
The Qur’an (like the Torah) is best read with commentary and footnotes. It’s really very condensed, and the context will be missed if one tries to read it “naked”. Perhaps the best commentary on the Qur’an is Rumi’s Mathnawi.
 
I very much enjoy all spiritual literature. Some more than others. The Gospel while obviously ridled with contradictions is my favorite. My second would be the quran and third is the Torah. Fourth is the art of war. All are a far crie from either holy or innerant.

The importrant thing is to never allow yourself to view any book as holy or innerant as that is straight up idolatry wich is directly opposed to the simple human conscience.

Go ahead and read. Always remember that nothing on this planet fashioned by human hands is innerant or holy and all is well.
 
FightingFat said:
There’s most of the Bible re-told in it as well as stuff from Mohammed.
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Have you ever wondered why Mohammed went to the cave at Hira for 3 years before the angel Gabriel (Jibral) appeared in a dream? His uncle Waraqah was a Christian scribe who translated the texts into Arabic. Waraqah went blind. I sometimes wonder if Mohammed took a copy to Hira to read for 3 years after Waraqah went blind. One would think the two of them must have had some interesting conversations about some of the local people’s resistance to belief in the trinity, resurrection, and transubstantiation. Did he invent a religion that modified the most believable aspects and remove those that were more difficult to believe at that time? Have you ever wondered if it is possible?
 
ManOnFire said:
Have you ever wondered why Mohammed went to the cave at Hira for 3 years before the angel Gabriel (Jibral) appeared in a dream? His uncle Waraqah was a Christian scribe who translated the texts into Arabic. Waraqah went blind. I sometimes wonder if Mohammed took a copy to Hira to read for 3 years after Waraqah went blind. One would think the two of them must have had some interesting conversations about some of the local people’s resistance to belief in the trinity, resurrection, and transubstantiation. Did he invent a religion that modified the most believable aspects and remove those that were more difficult to believe at that time? Have you ever wondered if it is possible?
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I’ve often thought this was exactly what happened. 🙂
 
FightingFat said:
I’ve often thought this was exactly what happened. 🙂
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I think he just picked and chose what he liked and jettisoned the rest and decided to eventually pick and choose himself to be the greatest of all prophets. :eek:

MJ
 
MartinJordan said:
I think he just picked and chose what he liked and jettisoned the rest and decided to eventually pick and choose himself to be the greatest of all prophets. :eek:

MJ
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Well we do know that he went to the Quaraish and preached and was rejected. Later he returned and was accepted. Considering the Quaraishy polytheism, I think they didn’t accept certain Christian ideas Muhammed preached, so he changed Christianity to suit the Arabs better and then it was accepted.
 
PiousTemplar said:
Is the Quran Muhummad’s respectful diary? no offense intended
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no , quran isn’t mohammad’s diary at all , actually his name mentioned only four times in whole quran

Quran deals with all the subjects which concern human beings: wisdom, doctrine, worship, transactions, law, etc., but its basic theme is the relationship between God and His creatures. At the same time, it provides guidelines and detailed teachings for a just society, proper human conduct, and an equitable economic system.
 
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