SSPX and Women

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Usually this type of comment is used in the same way Protestants take statements of Catholics and use them to attack the Catholic Church.

Understood correctly the place of a woman is a place of dignity and they should enjoy being women.
In doing so women can drive, there is no problem with that. But then looking at the respect that SSPX encourages for women they would probably discourage women trying to prove that they are more by feeling like they need to compete against men, by somehow proving they are better.
This is done commonly in todays society, just watch any sitcom. This might be where they get the women driving thing from, as if SSPX wants to oppress women.

In the same way with dresses, dresses give dignity to women. Not all pants are bad and ones designed for women are just fine, but many fashions focus your eyes on marketing the woman, which just makes her an object.
Is this wrong to make yourself an object of lust?

I would always encourage men and women to dress respectfully and live chaste lives. This will get a lot of people to make fun of you as this doesn’t fit in with society these days, but what is more important.
Style or fidelity to God.
These are opposed since style these days is almost never reflective of a chaste lifestyle.

God Bless
Scylla

I am not SSPX but it is easy to spot common barbs that people put into comments of groups they don’t like and these are the type you commonly hear on the web, or at parishes.
 
I attended SSPX chapel in Idaho from about 1975 to 1988 and have never heard any such nonsense.

3 of my 7 children received first communion and confirmation from Archbishop Lefebvre himself. And our "old " priest was absolutely fantastic.

Will never forget the Archbishop and our priest sipping coffee and talking in French about the great progress our parish was making.

Sadly, all that came to an end for me in 1988.
 
To answer the OP’s question… yes, some SSPX priests, such as Bishop Williamson himself, tell women not to wear pants:

sspx.ca/Documents/Bishop-Williamson/September1-1991.htm
Girls, be mothers, and in order to be mothers, let not wild horses drag you into shorts or trousers. When activities are proposed to you requiring trousers, if it is something your great-grandmother did, then find a way of doing it, like her, in a skirt. And if your great-grandmother did not do it, then forget it! …] Of course not all women who wear trousers abort the fruit of their womb, but all help to create the abortive society. Old-fashioned is good, modern is suicidal. You wish to stop abortion? Do it by example. Never wear trousers or shorts.
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Benedictus said:
To answer the OP’s question… yes, some SSPX priests, such as Bishop Williamson himself, tell women not to wear pants:

sspx.ca/Documents/Bishop-Williamson/September1-1991.htm
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That 's probably becayse fashion was part of the blessed Virgin’s message to the children at Fatima:

Our Lady said, “Russia will spread her errors throughout the world.” She also said, “Certain fashions will be introduced which will offend My Son very much.”

And didn’t Padre Pio refuse to absolve women who wore their skirts above their knees, and didn’t he insist women not wear slacks?

That’s probably the influence that Bishop Williamson is guided by.
 
paramedicgirl said:
And didn’t Padre Pio refuse to absolve women who wore their skirts above their knees, and didn’t he insist women not wear slacks?
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I’ve always wondered whether this statement about Padre Pio is true or not. How would he have known if a woman had on a skirt above her knees or pants for that matter, when they were inside the confessional? To withhold absolution based on someone’s attire does not seem to be the “saintly” thing to do.
 
Kelly said:
I’ve always wondered whether this statement about Padre Pio is true or not. How would he have known if a woman had on a skirt above her knees or pants for that matter, when they were inside the confessional? To withhold absolution based on someone’s attire does not seem to be the “saintly” thing to do.
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Why would a Woman need to wear a short skirt like that in public in the first place?

If this is true about St. Padre Pio, he had good reasons to do it. Women should dress modestly, as should men.
 
I’ve heard plenty about the SSPX but I’ve never heard them telling women they shouldn’t drive. I’ve seen them say no pants and no women in the choir but that’s about it.
 
bear06 said:
**I’ve heard plenty about the SSPX **but I’ve never heard them telling women they shouldn’t drive. I’ve seen them say no pants and no women in the choir but that’s about it.
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lucybeebee said:
I’ve heard from various online groups and websites that some SSPX priests tell their parishioners that it is a sin for women to wear pants (even those designed specifically for females) or drive cars (I’m know that Catholic women must have held driver’s licenses prior to Vatican II, so I don’t know where that comes from). I’ve also heard that nun at SSPX affliated schools tell girls that it is a sin to wear lace underwear. Is there any truth to these claims? If so, what is their rationale?
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No there isnt any universal view towards those things in the SSPX.

However, concerning the pants…I havent heard it from the SSPX. But my FSSP parish teaches young girls that they shouldnt wear pants unless absolutely neccessary.

The only SSPX priest who I’ve heard preach something similar is Bishop Williamson. Who also says women shouldnt wear pants, or work unless neccessary. He is a real strong supporter of the traditional family…with the Father as a worker and breadwinner, the Mother as the manager of the house and guardian of the children…and the kids as pets and decoration.

My dad who sometimes checks these forums as a guest, wants to (name removed by moderator)ut his opinion from the kitchen.

“Girls wearing pants can only be as acceptable as guys wearing skirts”

Hes a crazy old lunatic though…so dont mind him.

As for my personal opinion…I couldnt care less. I think a skirt (and not those strips of cloth that are considered skirts now adays) but a real skirt is the proper attire for women at Mass. Outside of Mass it doesnt matter to me.

And as for lace…youll find that traditionalists try and add lace everywhere.

Have you ever seen our Altar boys? 👍
 
Trident59 said:
3 of my 7 children received first communion and confirmation from Archbishop Lefebvre himself. And our "old " priest was absolutely fantastic.
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That’s amazing.

Im a big fan of Archbishop Lefebvre…though I dont attend a SSPX Mass.

I heard he is a wonderful man.

Ever met Bishop Tissier or Fellay?

Equally wonderful people 🙂
 
Karin said:
can you please provide a direct link to that so we do not have to hunt and peck to find it:) …thank you
sspx.org/
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Look in the FAQs. They don’t provide direct links to these specific topis. “Women in choir” and “standard of dress for men” is where these two topics can be found.
 
bear06 said:
Look in the FAQs and the “Against the soundbite” links. They don’t provide direct links to these specific topis.
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I looked in the FAQ and there is nothing there stating this…
as to the "soundbite links"nothing there either…

You obviously pulled this info from somewhere can you please provide the link…that is all I am asking for…🙂 :o
 
Karin said:
I looked in the FAQ and there is nothing there stating this…
as to the "soundbite links"nothing there either…

You obviously pulled this info from somewhere can you please provide the link…that is all I am asking for…🙂 :o
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Sorry! You read before I finished editing to tell you where to find them. See post #36. Both are there. One is obvious and one is under another topic. I believe one is under liturgical and the other moral.
 
bear06 said:
Sorry! You read before I finished editing to tell you where to find them. See post #36. Both are there. One is obvious and one is under another topic. I believe one is under liturgical and the other moral.
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sorry found them…and you are right…no woman in the CHoir and woman are not to dress in pants or shorts!
 
Karin said:
sorry found them…and you are right…no woman in the CHoir and woman are not to dress in pants or shorts!
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Sorry you had to search. It drives me crazy that there are hardly any direct links. I’m sure they’re trying to further “educate” people by making them paw through the site.😉
 
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