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It is absolutely valid. The pope is the supreme law giver. Excommunication is a legal disciplinary act. Pope Benedict explained it in one of his books using rather interesting wording. He was speaking about the SSPX. He said that by accepting an illegal ordination they had broken their communion with the primacy. It’s that same example as the popes and the monarchs. The monarchs broke their communion with the primacy.Brother JR, I have often wondered about popes in previous centuries who would excommunicate monarchs because they wouldn’t perform something such as a crusade. I always thought that such an excommunication would be invalid since it stems from political bickering. Am I right in assuming (based on your previous post) that such excommunications would be valid? Can a monarch really be placed outside of the Church because he didn’t take up arms against an adversary of the pope?
Dissent with papal authority is an interesting subject. It’s really up to the pope to decide how far you can go before he comes down on you. Personally, I believe that it’s part of spiritual fatherhood. Fathers often let their children push the envelope, but only to a point and then, BANG. You’re in trouble. If we look at the big picture, the relationship is not only one of faith and morals, but its also familial. We’re a family and Peter and his successors are the father.
Whether the father is right or wrong, unless he asks you to violate God’s law, he has certain rights over you.
This was a big issue for some of the SSPX supporters who cited Canon Law in defense of Archbishop Lefebvre. The Archbishop and the other bishops did present that canon on emergency and urgent need, etc as defense. Cardinal Ratzinger and Pope John Paul gave a one line response. “This does not apply to you. Therefore, it’s not even going to be considered.” Once the pope decides that the law does not apply to you, you have no appeal. You can either accept his verdict and try another avenue or keep trying to change his mind to get him to see your point of view. I’ll be honest, I’m not sure how one can make a pope change his mind, unless one is a great saint.
The only ones whom I’ve seen to have that kind of persuasive power over popes have been Francis of Assisi, Clare of Assisi, Catherine of Siena, Ignatius of Loyola, Mother Teresa of Calcutta and Jose Maria Escriva. But these folks are spiritual giants and charismatic with upper case letters. They didn’t have to say much to persuade the popes. They just had to be themselves.
Happy Easter,
Br. JR, OSF