SSPX Update - Redux

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Wow, 1000 posts. Anyway, Thomas said we could create another thread. There’s some good discussions that were happening, I’d like to see them continue.
 
Please. Come. Home. 🙂
It’s less that they need to come home, it’s more that they need to take their shoes off and come inside or leave the house so we can stop letting the cold air in. Standing in the shoe foyer isn’t doing anyone any good.
 
It’s less that they need to come home, it’s more that they need to take their shoes off and come inside or leave the house so we can stop letting the cold air in. Standing in the shoe foyer isn’t doing anyone any good.
Hahahahaha. 😃

I accept the correction. :D:thumbsup:
 
Yes I said that you could create the sequel.

You people are really bent on keeping me on my toes, aren’t you? 🙂

I dare you to reach the 1,000 mark again.

Four more months of this. The other thread lasted four months. :hypno:
 
What, are we getting heckled by the Moderator now?

😃

To stay on topic - I found the line of thought intriguing that perhaps, due to indoctrination from an early age, the SSPX priests are not culpable for believing and advancing the idea of supplied jurisdiction because of a “crisis”. which the Vatican says doesn’t exist.
 
LOL. I think it is amazing we did such a good job. This is one of the most dicey topics on CAF and while we all have opinions we have done a good job of being civil. I think we should get some kind of medal that is by our name. We honestly do deserve some kudos but so does the moderator who has to put up with us and police a topic that is very volatile.

A big thanks to Br JR. Who may not be as right as he thinks he is but is one of the only reasons the thread or topic is even allowed to continue! Thanks Br JR, you bring civility and common sense to the forum.:choocho::choocho:
 
It’s less that they need to come home, it’s more that they need to take their shoes off and come inside or leave the house so we can stop letting the cold air in. Standing in the shoe foyer isn’t doing anyone any good.
nail on head.
 
It’s less that they need to come home, it’s more that they need to take their shoes off and come inside or leave the house so we can stop letting the cold air in. Standing in the shoe foyer isn’t doing anyone any good.
Great analogy! And along with the cold air, we may be letting in a few too many flies. 😉

Based on Br. JR’s last post and the recent statements of Bishop Fellay, it seems that the SSPX is intent on playing a game of legalistic hide and seek to keep their “in, but out” status as long as possible. We may need to get used to that blast of cold air from the foyer. 😦
 
Great analogy! And along with the cold air, we may be letting in a few too many flies. 😉

Based on Br. JR’s last post and the recent statements of Bishop Fellay, it seems that the SSPX is intent on playing a game of legalistic hide and seek to keep their “in, but out” status as long as possible. We may need to get used to that blast of cold air from the foyer. 😦
The problem with waiting is that it isn’t sustainable. For them to continue to function as they are, they need Bishops to ordain more priests. After the four current Bishops pass away, there will be none left. Unless:
  1. They find other Bishops to join them, and continue the work.
  2. Ordain new Bishops, and we saw how well that worked out for them last time.
Benedict knows this, especially #2, which is why I think there is a some urgency involved with this.
 
And aren’t they (un)officially down to three bishops since Bishop Williamson was sanctioned recently?

No, waiting isn’t sustainable, but I had was so hopeful over the summer that the reconcilliation would happen.

I have never been to an SSPX chapel/Mass. I do have friends who were involved in the lay movements of Legionaries of Christ (Regnum Christi). I realize that are totally different groups and situations, but the “brainwashing” atmosphere is the similar.

It is very hard to think of ordinary people being so isolated that they cannot see the true beauty of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church headed by the successor of Peter.
 
Endless dialog is used by the SSPX and the LCWR. Does Pope Benedict XVI have a papal hour glass? Other than that, I refuse to comment.
 
Yes I said that you could create the sequel.

You people are really bent on keeping me on my toes, aren’t you? 🙂

I dare you to reach the 1,000 mark again.

Four more months of this. The other thread lasted four months. :hypno:
I was thinking of starting 6 or 7 threads all on the various nuances of the SSPX situation. OK with you? 😃
 
Yes congratulations everyone! 1000 posts on a thread about SSPX is cause for hoopla! :grouphug:(Perhaps our friends in the Society should take our cue;))

And thanks a million to Mr. Thomas Casey for his patience and forbearance. He only had to knock heads a couple of times, as I recall, and I had no idea he was watching us that closely.:tiphat:

And btw, whenever Br. JR gets crotchety, it helps to give him a virtual treat, like ice cream or a warm brandy.🙂
 
To stay on topic - I found the line of thought intriguing that perhaps, due to indoctrination from an early age, the SSPX priests are not culpable for believing and advancing the idea of supplied jurisdiction because of a “crisis”. which the Vatican says doesn’t exist.
This is a very interesting idea. Scary too, because it acknowledges that the Society is an isolated, insular group. It also says to me that they aren’t drawing in many new people. Their growth is based on family growth of those people who “defected” in the 70s. Their priests are children of the original group who have had very little interaction with the larger world.

That wouldn’t be an issue of discussion at all except that something has to explain how, 40 some odd years later they can maintain that there is still a ‘crisis’ but the rest of us somehow keep going along without being vaporized by the wrath of the Holy Spirit. 🤷
 
A big thanks to Br JR. Who may not be as right as he thinks he is but is one of the only reasons the thread or topic is even allowed to continue! Thanks Br JR, you bring civility and common sense to the forum.:choocho::choocho:
Yes, and I love the way you worked in a little dig with your compliment, lol! But how did it work out for Br. JR to get the very last word in on the first thread? I suspect collusion…:ehh:
 
This is a very interesting idea. Scary too, because it acknowledges that the Society is an isolated, insular group. It also says to me that they aren’t drawing in many new people. Their growth is based on family growth of those people who “defected” in the 70s. Their priests are children of the original group who have had very little interaction with the larger world.

That wouldn’t be an issue of discussion at all except that something has to explain how, 40 some odd years later they can maintain that there is still a ‘crisis’ but the rest of us somehow keep going along without being vaporized by the wrath of the Holy Spirit. 🤷
I’m not sure your growth assertions are true. Do you have a source? As far as I can tell, there are many Catholics becoming comfortable with the SSPX all the time, as sour as that might be becoming.
 
I’m not sure your growth assertions are true. Do you have a source? As far as I can tell, there are many Catholics becoming comfortable with the SSPX all the time, as sour as that might be becoming.
Really?? I have no idea at all. There is no SSPX chapel or community around here. I am only going on what I have heards second hand which is that families are large and encourage vocations and that young men often enter the SSPX college seminaries right out of high school. People seem to be quite proud of this and in general I agree that large families that encourage vocations is a good thing. But it would tend to make the group increasingly isolated, even if it was growing in numbers.

I don’t hear too much about people joining SSPX as adults. I did used to hear that quite a bit about the Legionaries of Christ.

If you have a diffierent experience, I am perfectly ready to believe you. 🙂
 
Really?? I have no idea at all. There is no SSPX chapel or community around here. I am only going on what I have heards second hand which is that families are large and encourage vocations and that young men often enter the SSPX college seminaries right out of high school. People seem to be quite proud of this and in general I agree that large families that encourage vocations is a good thing. But it would tend to make the group increasingly isolated, even if it was growing in numbers.

I don’t hear too much about people joining SSPX as adults. I did used to hear that quite a bit about the Legionaries of Christ.

If you have a diffierent experience, I am perfectly ready to believe you. 🙂
I mean, I don’t have stats, but I do hear of people on the blogosphere and forumosphere becoming affiliated, yes.
 
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