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Ive been reading alot of cyril latley and though he talks about the authority,(alot) I cant find anything on him teaching the church is Divinly protected, any help?
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Is it possible you meant Cyprian?
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ahs
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On Infallibility; Try Irenaeus, Tertullian, and Augustine in regards to the Church; add Cyprian, and Peter Chrysologus in regards to the Roman Pontiff; Athanasius, Gregory of Elvira, Ambrose, Councils of Ephesus and Chalcedon, Pope Leo I, and Pope Gregory I in regards to Bishops in an Ecumenical Council.
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irenaeuslyons
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I was thinking ecclesial indefectibility, but perhaps he meant something else
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Fatima-Crusader
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Yeah indefectibilty, im talking about St Cyril Archbishop of Jerusalem 313 AD who famously wrote his catechetical lectures and passed it on through out the world
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Fatima-Crusader
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Where did irenaeus talk about church infallibility?
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Book 3, Chapter 4, Paragraph 1 of “Against Heresies”.
http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103304.htm
“Since therefore we have such proofs, it is not necessary to seek the truth among others which it is easy to obtain from the Church; since the apostles, like a rich man [depositing his money] in a bank, lodged in her hands most copiously all things pertaining to the truth: so that every man, whosoever will, can draw from her the water of life. Revelation 22:17 For she is the entrance to life; all others are thieves and robbers. On this account are we bound to avoid them, but to make choice of the thing pertaining to the Church with the utmost diligence, and to lay hold of the tradition of the truth. For how stands the case? Suppose there arise a dispute relative to some important question among us, should we not have recourse to the most ancient Churches with which the apostles held constant intercourse, and learn from them what is certain and clear in regard to the present question? For how should it be if the apostles themselves had not left us writings? Would it not be necessary, [in that case,] to follow the course of the tradition which they handed down to those to whom they did commit the Churches?”
http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103304.htm
“Since therefore we have such proofs, it is not necessary to seek the truth among others which it is easy to obtain from the Church; since the apostles, like a rich man [depositing his money] in a bank, lodged in her hands most copiously all things pertaining to the truth: so that every man, whosoever will, can draw from her the water of life. Revelation 22:17 For she is the entrance to life; all others are thieves and robbers. On this account are we bound to avoid them, but to make choice of the thing pertaining to the Church with the utmost diligence, and to lay hold of the tradition of the truth. For how stands the case? Suppose there arise a dispute relative to some important question among us, should we not have recourse to the most ancient Churches with which the apostles held constant intercourse, and learn from them what is certain and clear in regard to the present question? For how should it be if the apostles themselves had not left us writings? Would it not be necessary, [in that case,] to follow the course of the tradition which they handed down to those to whom they did commit the Churches?”
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