St. Louis Archbishop Opposes Shery Crow's Appearance at Children's Charity Due to Abortion Stance

[Mirror_Mirror]

Sent an e-mail and received a very nice thank you from the Archdiocese. So they are hearing us in St. Louis.
Prague

We faithful Catholics of St. Louis send you a sincere heartfelt thanks for supporting Archbishop Burke during this difficult time. I cannot speak for him or for the church, but as a fellow Catholic it saddens me to see all of the hateful words against our faithful leader of our Archdiocese.

God bless you all!

 

[Gabriel_Gale]

“I have never applied a litmus test, Catholic or otherwise, concerning the politics or religious beliefs of any of the generous performers who have come to St. Louis to help this worthy cause, nor do I intend to …” Costas wrote

Calling Don Imus…Calling Don Imus

 

[maggieodae]

We faithful Catholics of St. Louis send you a sincere heartfelt thanks for supporting Archbishop Burke during this difficult time. I cannot speak for him or for the church, but as a fellow Catholic it saddens me to see all of the hateful words against our faithful leader of our Archdiocese.

God bless you all!

It made me so sad too.

 

[Grace_Angel]

I sent a supportive email to the Archdiocese. I told them I wish he would catechize all of America’s bishops (and priests).

Hello Larry,
I also sent an email of support for the Archbishop and promptly received a lovely acknowledgement from V.G… They must be so busy, yet took time to answer. How gracious they are.
Grace Angel.

 

[stlouismb]

Am I the only one here to see a disconnect with Abp. Burke and the supposedly pro-life stance he took? Do we really need to only care about the healthcare of unborn babies to be truly Catholic? If so, I am on my way out.

I agree to his making a statement–and a stand. But one that harms children who are already born and in need of medical care can’t possibly be right.

Is this forum only open to the “anti-abortion” pro lifers or are those of us who wish to protect all of the most fragile in our society welcome here as well?

I say good for Cardinal Glennon Hospital for going ahead with the fundraiser on behalf of children already born. And good for Abp. Burke to resign. He is not my spiritual leader, even though I live in Saint Louis and am considered by most people who know me to be a pretty traditional Catholic. He is increasing making himself irrelevant to me and many I know with these grand-standing attempts. Poor man, he got some “bad press”. He will accept any press he can get.

Though I did not buy a ticket, I immediately sent the hospital a donation in case the Archbishop’s statement adversely affected the fund drive. The kids in my neighborhood depend on Cardinal Glennon (whom I am sure is not spinning in his grave)Hospital. I may ask the hospital board if they would like for me to replace His Grace.

 

[Larry1700]

Do we really need to only care about the healthcare of unborn babies to be truly Catholic? If so, I am on my way out.

I agree to his making a statement–and a stand. But one that harms children who are already born and in need of medical care can’t possibly be right.

There never should have to be this choice between standing for both born and unborn children. My wife was recently asked to make a donation to the Susan Komen foundation to fight breast cancer. That is a worthy cause, of course, but they chose to use some percentage of the funds to help Planned Parenthood. When she said she didn’t want to give because she didn’t want part of her money supporting PP, my wife’s apparent lack of generosity was frowned upon However, it was not her who made the decision to help PP, it was the Komen foundation. Same story here. The hospital could have chosen many other musicians, but they chose Crow. The Archbishop was correct in stepping down.

 

[maggieodae]

There never should have to be this choice between standing for both born and unborn children. My wife was recently asked to make a donation to the Susan Komen foundation to fight breast cancer. That is a worthy cause, of course, but they chose to use some percentage of the funds to help Planned Parenthood. When she said she didn’t want to give because she didn’t want part of her money supporting PP, my wife’s apparent lack of generosity was frowned upon However, it was not her who made the decision to help PP, it was the Komen foundation. Same story here. The hospital could have chosen many other musicians, but they chose Crow. The Archbishop was correct in stepping down.

Not to mention, those who wish to push the agenda for cloning, and abortion, have no qualm’s in using a children’s health benefit to promote their agenda. They do it quite regularly now. Another way they like to say how good they are, and push the pro-life message aside.

 

[Grace_Angel]

Am I the only one here to see a disconnect with Abp. Burke and the supposedly pro-life stance he took? Do we really need to only care about the healthcare of unborn babies to be truly Catholic? If so, I am on my way out.

I agree to his making a statement–and a stand. But one that harms children who are already born and in need of medical care can’t possibly be right.

Is this forum only open to the “anti-abortion” pro lifers or are those of us who wish to protect all of the most fragile in our society welcome here as well?

I say good for Cardinal Glennon Hospital for going ahead with the fundraiser on behalf of children already born. And good for Abp. Burke to resign. He is not my spiritual leader, even though I live in Saint Louis and am considered by most people who know me to be a pretty traditional Catholic. He is increasing making himself irrelevant to me and many I know with these grand-standing attempts. Poor man, he got some “bad press”. He will accept any press he can get.

Though I did not buy a ticket, I immediately sent the hospital a donation in case the Archbishop’s statement adversely affected the fund drive. The kids in my neighborhood depend on Cardinal Glennon (whom I am sure is not spinning in his grave)Hospital. I may ask the hospital board if they would like for me to replace His Grace.

Hello St Louis mb,
Its a pity that you have chosen to take this issue in the way you have. Your Archbishop is 100% correct. You see Ms Crow is verbal in her stance on abortion. It seems to her that its OK to kill in utero infants, but those who survive and get through she will then sing for their supper. Sorry StLouisMb, the most important right of every human being is the right to be allowed to be born. Without this right, then the Carinal Glenon hospital is useless. Yes its important to support all workers in the Lord’s Vineyard, but the barest vineyard is the one where the children have not been allowed to be born in order to become labourers in that vineyard.
Repectfully you are in error but of course you are free to think as you like.
GranceAngel.

 

[mom2boyz]

It is hard for me to believe this has gone down like this. First of all Cardinal Glennon Hospital is an awesome place for children. I know since I worked there. Second of all the hospital is a member of the SSM healthcare which is sponsored by the Franciscan Sisters of Mary based in St. Louis, MO. Third Doug Ries has been the president of Cardinal Glennon for many years. It is really hard to believe that the Archbishop who sits on the board has to wait to the final minutes before the event is going to take place to make a stand. These kind of events usually take some time to plan and aren’t spur of the moment kinds of things. So while I don’t necessarily disagree with the position that the Archbishop has taken, I find it quite odd that that he didn’t have some contact with either the Franciscan Sisters or Doug Ries when this event was in the planning stages. If he didn’t do this then I question how effective he is in running his Archdiocese anyway. All he did at this stage was take himself off the board of the foundation so he will have no (name removed by moderator)ut and create a controversary which probably was like adding fuel to the fire. If his intention was to cause people to not see the show, what he did probably had the opposite effect. I think what Costas said was uncalled for, mean spirited, and lacked good taste.

 

[Servulus]

It is hard for me to believe this has gone down like this. First of all Cardinal Glennon Hospital is an awesome place for children. I know since I worked there. Second of all the hospital is a member of the SSM healthcare which is sponsored by the Franciscan Sisters of Mary based in St. Louis, MO. Third Doug Ries has been the president of Cardinal Glennon for many years. It is really hard to believe that the Archbishop who sits on the board has to wait to the final minutes before the event is going to take place to make a stand. These kind of events usually take some time to plan and aren’t spur of the moment kinds of things. So while I don’t necessarily disagree with the position that the Archbishop has taken, I find it quite odd that that he didn’t have some contact with either the Franciscan Sisters or Doug Ries when this event was in the planning stages. If he didn’t do this then I question how effective he is in running his Archdiocese anyway. All he did at this stage was take himself off the board of the foundation so he will have no (name removed by moderator)ut and create a controversary which probably was like adding fuel to the fire. If his intention was to cause people to not see the show, what he did probably had the opposite effect. I think what Costas said was uncalled for, mean spirited, and lacked good taste.

I watched the Archbishop’s videotaped message and read the text of his statement online. In both of them, he was at great pains to explain that he has nothing but respect and admiration for the people of the hospital and the work they are doing. The Foundation is a separate entity from the hospital, which means that the hospital administrators and the SSM organization have no direct control over what the Foundation does. Nothing has been said that indicates the Archbishop is withdrawing his support for the hospital. His statement even mentions the annual collection taken up in the Archdiocese for the support of the work of the medical center, implying that it will continue.

The Archbishop also explains that he had been in discussions over a period of time with the Board in an attempt to persuade them not to invite this individual. When the attempts were unsuccessful, he took the only morally defensible course he could.

God bless the Archbishop and Cardinal Glennon Children’s Hospital.

 

[Margie07]

I watched the Archbishop’s videotaped message and read the text of his statement online. In both of them, he was at great pains to explain that he has nothing but respect and admiration for the people of the hospital and the work they are doing. The Foundation is a separate entity from the hospital, which means that the hospital administrators and the SSM organization have no direct control over what the Foundation does. Nothing has been said that indicates the Archbishop is withdrawing his support for the hospital. His statement even mentions the annual collection taken up in the Archdiocese for the support of the work of the medical center, implying that it will continue.

The Archbishop also explains that he had been in discussions over a period of time with the Board in an attempt to persuade them not to invite this individual. When the attempts were unsuccessful, he took the only morally defensible course he could.

God bless the Archbishop and Cardinal Glennon Children’s Hospital.

Amen! He is a good shepherd. I fully support his actions.

 

[ruffwriter]

I have a CD by miss crow, and I will put it in the trash. I also heard she has cancer.Maybe that experience will bring a change to her thinking. We can only pray for her.

 

[stlouismb]

I have a CD by miss crow, and I will put it in the trash. I also heard she has cancer.Maybe that experience will bring a change to her thinking. We can only pray for her.

Very narrow-minded of you and rather uncharitable regarding the cancer (of which she is a “survivor”). She did say that the cancer changed her in many ways. One very big way was she just adopted a child. How is that for saving a life? Or is the life of the already born still not on your radar for activism?

Amen to Ms. Crow needing prayer. So do I.

 

[stlouismb]

Hello St Louis mb,
Its a pity that you have chosen to take this issue in the way you have. Your Archbishop is 100% correct. You see Ms Crow is verbal in her stance on abortion. It seems to her that its OK to kill in utero infants, but those who survive and get through she will then sing for their supper. Sorry StLouisMb, the most important right of every human being is the right to be allowed to be born. Without this right, then the Carinal Glenon hospital is useless. Yes its important to support all workers in the Lord’s Vineyard, but the barest vineyard is the one where the children have not been allowed to be born in order to become labourers in that vineyard.
Repectfully you are in error but of course you are free to think as you like.
GranceAngel.

And my archbishop has also been silent about the War in Iraq–the killing of many innocent lives, which both our current Pope and his predecessor condemned as part of a culture of death. He is also completely silent about the legalized killing of prisoners on Missouri’s death row. He has been completely silent in regards to the medicaid and medicare cuts, and welfare to expectant mothers which jeopardize the born and the unborn.

I realize he needs to make a stand on issues. I merely object to his “tunnel vision” in regards to the “unconditionally pro-life” stance of my Church. I am not condemning him for this stance. I think, however, it was short-sighted considering the good that Cardinal Glennon Children’s hospital does.

I would love for him to have had an open dialogue with the Foundation and with his parishioners rather than a “statement”. I would love for him to be pastoral and invite Ms. Crow to visit with him and discuss the issue of abortion. It would be an easy “connect” to ask her how she supports children’s health, but not that of the unborn. Unfortunately, he would never do such a thing. JP2 took our governor to task on all of these issues when he was in town a few years ago. When he did so, in a pastoral manner, Everybody Listened. That is the difference between someone taking a stand and someone being pastoral.

I have adopted his stance, however in that I am selectively supporting the causes I feel get short shrift from his (the archbishop’s) office, rather than a blanket check to the archdiocesan appeal. I would like to do both, but my conscience will not allow me to have these other “vineyards” neglected.

Thanks.