St. Padre Pio Exhumed

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I don’t know where this belongs - Catholic media - secular - or both. Nor do I know if this topic has appeared. But tonight, on RAI television (Italian network but I get it in U.S.), they announced that St. Padre Pio’s body will be exhumed. I don’t know any of the particulars - heard it at the end - but there are a number of web sites about it.

Long story short - St. Padre Pio’s family was against it - one item I read said there are questions if the reason is the 40th Anniversary of his death (despite the fact that he died in Sept. 1968 - not mid-April) - and speculation as to whether they’re looking into the stigmata (INSERT HUGE LOL here since it was proven while he was alive, and the Stigmata began closing before his death).

Hopes and prayers - that they find the Good St. Padre Pio - INTACT !
 
A Church statement said the body was in “fair condition”, particularly the hands, which Archbishop Domenico D’Ambrosio, who witnessed the exhumation in the southern Italian town where Pio died, said “looked like they had just undergone a manicure”.
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“For thou wilt not leave my soul to Sheol; Neither wilt thou suffer thy holy one to see corruption.”
 
Roanoker, I don’t know what the reason is for the exhumation. I would have thought 50 years would be a good milestone.

MSschrank, thanks for that link. I’m disappointed to hear that about the “fair condition”. I felt sure he would be found totally incorrupt.

In any event, I can’t get over how many still try to negate St. Padre Pio’s claim. How do they explain his bilocation? (i.e. being seen in totally different places?) There will always be skeptics.
 
Well, St. Anthony’s tongue was the only thing found incorrupt so it would make sense if the hands and feet were perfect.(The stigmatized parts). Besides, they said most of the body was intact except part of the head.

Anyway, not every incorrupt body is perfect. St. Bernadette had to have wax because she darkened. Incorruptables can sometimes be very fragile. One incorruptable was incorrupt on one exuhmation and the next was not.
 
CathMass said:
Well, St. Anthony’s tongue was the only thing found incorrupt so it would make sense if the hands and feet were perfect.(The stigmatized parts). Besides, they said most of the body was intact except part of the head.

Anyway, not every incorrupt body is perfect. St. Bernadette had to have wax because she darkened. Incorruptables can sometimes be very fragile. One incorruptable was incorrupt on one exuhmation and the next was not.
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I knew about St. Anthony. Matter of fact, I think they said that during WW II (?) some damage came to St. Anthony’s relics due to air getting to it. (perhaps in moving?) I never made it to Nevers to see St. Bernadette (missed the train)…but I didn’t know some wax had been used. I’ve seen pics, and her body did look waxy.

However, any idea about Jacinta of Fatima? I know she was not only incorrupt but there was a strong floral or fragrant aroma when her coffin was opened. I was in Fatima but didn’t go up to front of Cathedral to see her (my mini-skirt days, and I was embarassed at the long duster they made me put on :o )
 
CathMass said:
Well, St. Anthony’s tongue was the only thing found incorrupt so it would make sense if the hands and feet were perfect.(The stigmatized parts). Besides, they said most of the body was intact except part of the head.

Anyway, not every incorrupt body is perfect. St. Bernadette had to have wax because she darkened. Incorruptables can sometimes be very fragile. One incorruptable was incorrupt on one exuhmation and the next was not.
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Certain areas of St. Bernadette’s body darkened because of the manner in which the sisters washed her body after it was exhumed and re-dressed not because her body naturally underwent corruption.

Peace.
 
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MSschrank, thanks for that link. I’m disappointed to hear that about the “fair condition”. I felt sure he would be found totally incorrupt.
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Incorruption is not the only mark of holiness 🙂
Ste. Therese de Lisieux for example
 
I worry though about the family. If Padre Pio’s family was opposed, I think that their wishes should have been respected. However, if the Vatican ordered or authorized the exhumation, then the family should just obey the Holy See.

Anyway, I hope they make some relics available to the faithful. I think cloths used to clean the body or bits of his old habit that he wore in the coffin would be nice relics.
 
Why do the Catholic Church do this. Simply with no disrespect in asking. Is God please with this? Could this be called worshipping someone other than God? Was this practice done in Jesus time or in the Old Testaments? This was done I read in the book of St. Theresa Avila, her body also in parts. I find this sad and I do not know the true purpose for this. Why do they not let them rest in peace.

Thank you God Bless.
 
planter654 said:
Why do the Catholic Church do this. Simply with no disrespect in asking. Is God please with this? Could this be called worshipping someone other than God? Was this practice done in Jesus time or in the Old Testaments? This was done I read in the book of St. Theresa Avila, her body also in parts. I find this sad and I do not know the true purpose for this. Why do they not let them rest in peace.

Thank you God Bless.
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I don’t know why the St has to be exhumed against his family’s wishes. But perhaps God will allow some good to come of this.
 
Spirithound said:
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His family gave the go-ahead. Although, for a man who would be 121 years old now, I question the legitimacy of any remaining family’s claim versus the order he professed.
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Please there would be many family memebers around I remember my great grandmother when she died at home. Oral conversations and memories handed down, my Uncles and Aunts speaking of her. Father Pio’s nieces and nephews down. Pictures etc. Why would they do this anyway? What is the true purpose for doing this? I fine this awful for any soul to have this done. We are to worship no but God! The Catholic Church has done this also to other Saints. Are we not all called to become Saints? I ask is the Catholic Church the only church that does such practices? The Catholic Church preach about faith, so why are they doing this? God knows all things.

God Bless
 
planter654 said:
Please there would be many family memebers around I remember my great grandmother when she died at home. Oral conversations and memories handed down, my Uncles and Aunts speaking of her. Father Pio’s nieces and nephews down. Pictures etc. Why would they do this anyway? What is the true purpose for doing this? I fine this awful for any soul to have this done. We are to worship no but God! The Catholic Church has done this also to other Saints. Are we not all called to become Saints? I ask is the Catholic Church the only church that does such practices? The Catholic Church preach about faith, so why are they doing this? God knows all things.

God Bless
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The Saints are further examples and intercessors for us. The practice of venerating the saints and their relics is an ancient one.
My purpose was not to totally discount his family (however, crunch the numbers; his nephews and nieces would be at least 90 or 100. I doubt they’re alive), but to contrast his extended familial descendants with the order he spent 60 years with. His Brothers were his true family.
 
I’ll add this to the conversation…for what it’s worth.

My father was a World War II vet who had his left eardrum blown out by a near explosion…he always said a grenade. For years thereafter, he suffered from pain and seeping from the ear.

Then he prayed a novena to Saint Jude. It never hurt, nor seeped again.

All I can say is, this man (my father) was not one to claim a miracle without some evidence. So far as the good Padre Pio goes…it may be just like Saint Jude…you have to feel the touch.

May we all feel that touch,

John
 
My family is from Italy, and there is a tradition there that after a certain length a time the body is exhumed for cleansing. Now, alot of Italians no longer perform this ritual, but it is still there. I think that this custom is connected somehow with the incorruptibility of the saints. Many people were exhumed to see if there was any corruptibilty, whereas this would make a good case for sainthood. I think the custom evolved from this practice. Now we all know that Padre Pio has already been declared a saint based on other criteria, not incorruptibilty. But it is interesting that his hands were found in good shape.
 
Spirithound said:
The Saints are further examples and intercessors for us. The practice of venerating the saints and their relics is an ancient one.
My purpose was not to totally discount his family (however, crunch the numbers; his nephews and nieces would be at least 90 or 100. I doubt they’re alive), but to contrast his extended familial descendants with the order he spent 60 years with. His Brothers were his true family.
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I find it odd that we would continue this. Could you tell me from the ancient time and name them that this was done to in the Old Testament where they did this. What or how does the church determine to fallow things in the O Testament to continue the do’s and don’t’s.

Are we not all called to become “Saints”…Holy? Are we not worshipping saints instead of God our Holy Father and his beloved son our Lord Jesus Christ in these kind of practices? It get relics? Is it only the Catholic Church that does this practice? I ask would God be please with this?

God Bless
 
What comes to my mind that the “devil fought hard” to get the body of Moses, but God took care of that did he! Abraham Issac, Jacob, Joseph all where taken to where their families where buried. Their resting place when they fell asleep.

God Bless
 
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