Star Trek original series - favorite episdoe

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I picked “All Our Yesterdays” as my favorite of the entire series because despite its flaws it has heart to spare. And it’s also very moving and sad. And it has Mariette Hartley in a fur bikini. And the cool idea of sending your entire population back into your planet’s history to avoid extinction (although why they couldn’t just colonize another planet is beyond me - were they not Federation members?). It’s just such a memorable episode and has such a high “wow” factor.

The biggest problem and I was fully aware of this as a child is with Spock’s ‘reversion’ or ‘de-evolution’ into pre-Awakening Vulcanness. I don’t like science fiction that has individuals “de-evolving,” it just reeks of pop pseudo-science, or anti-science. However I did read somewhere of one fan’s explanation that Vulcans are always somewhat mildly in telepathic contact with other Vulcans, and therefore Spock reverted under the influence of that mild telepathic link with the Vulcans of that time period. Which sort of makes sense.
 
Della said:
My favorite character in Errand of Mercy was Kor the Klingnon leader. He was the villain in the episode, of course, but he rather reminded me of Pontius Pilate–a put upon official trying to tame an inscrutable people.

My favorite line come from Kor who says, after the Organians deny the Klingnon Empire and Starfleet to go to war over them, “Too bad. It would have been galooorious!” Oh yeah, ya gotta love the Klingnon perpective of life. 😛
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👍 👍 Kor is/was my favorite characters from Star Trek and just love that last line that Kor had! Kor was also in three episodes of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (Blood Oath was the first, can’t think of the titles of the other two). 😃 😃
 
Della said:
Actually, I do, and I’m not even Russian. 😉 We got to know the Klingons better in the next generations of the series, but especially in Deep Space Nine. We came to know them as a noble people who are barbaric, but with their own code of honor–a warrior’s code which they ruthlessly apply to everyone. That’s their flaw–that they have such a hard time seeing things from outside their own universal view, much like the ancient Romans in that regard.
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I think I always preferred Romulans, for being so like Vulcans (but not apparently in every respect - they are not as strong as Vulcans for instance nor are they telepathic [if I remember correctly]).
 
I think what I am currently watching (via Netflix) must be the remastered ones because some of the shots of planets they are orbiting around and the Enterprise itself look spectacular! I believe they also made the Gorn from “Arena” blink in the remastered version; which is edging closer to more than enhancement but whatever. It probably does look cooler than way.
 
tabycat said:
👍 👍 Kor is/was my favorite characters from Star Trek and just love that last line that Kor had! Kor was also in three episodes of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (Blood Oath was the first, can’t think of the titles of the other two). 😃 😃
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Originally he was intended to be a semi-regular character on the show, and some of the later episodes with Klingon commanders (specifically, “Day of the Dove”) were meant to feature Kor but the actor was unavailable due to prior commitments.
 
I hadn’t heard anything about the Whorf series - would Michael Dorn reprise his role from Star Trek Next Generation (and Deep Space Nine)?

I agree with you about the J.J. Abrams reboot.
 
tomarin said:
I think I always preferred Romulans, for being so like Vulcans (but not apparently in every respect - they are not as strong as Vulcans for instance nor are they telepathic [if I remember correctly]).
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The Romulans are devious and not to be trusted. They were always interferring in Klingnon politics, trying to destablize Klingnon relations with the Federation.

One of my favorite episodes of Deep Space Nine was when Quark was enlisted by a Klingnon widow to help her save her house from extinction, but I digress.

Being sneaky/back-handed was an abberration amonst Klingnons and frowned upon, as with Lursa and Be’tor’s and their efforts to take control of their council which involved plotting with the Romulans.

So no, I’m not fond of the Romulans nor the Cardasians. The latter may have learned their lesson in the war with the shape-shifters, but that remains to be seen. And Romulus got a wake-up call when Picard’s clone took over their empire. There are many more stories to be told in that universe, aren’t there?
 
That was in an episode of Next Gen. There was also the original series episode “Return to Tomorrow” in which Sargon hints at that same thesis. But even he doesn’t know for sure if Humans and Vulcans are his descendents.

It is true that in the real universe if life evolved on numerous worlds the odds are against every world following earth’s blueprint. Why have just two arms and legs for example? Why not have aliens that are round and have eight legs (i.e. like arachnids)?
 
Oh yes, the creators of ST’s effort to explain why there are so many humaniod species at the same level of technology. My sentiments on that idea match the Klingnon’s who, after hearing this silly idea from a female humanoid hologram, said, “If she were not already dead, I would kill her!” :rotfl: I completely sympathized with him.
 
The Gorns (or is it Gorn?) were big fan favorites and apparently they made re-appearances in the novelizations (which I never read to my knowledge).
 
Della said:
The Romulans are devious and not to be trusted. They were always interferring in Klingnon politics, trying to destablize Klingnon relations with the Federation.

One of my favorite episodes of Deep Space Nine was when Quark was enlisted by a Klingnon widow to help her save her house from extinction, but I digress.

Being sneaky/back-handed was an abberration amonst Klingnons and frowned upon, as with Lursa and Be’tor’s and their efforts to take control of their council which involved plotting with the Romulans.

So no, I’m not fond of the Romulans nor the Cardasians. The latter may have learned their lesson in the war with the shape-shifters, but that remains to be seen. And Romulus got a wake-up call when Picard’s clone took over their empire. There are many more stories to be told in that universe, aren’t there?
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I don’t think anybody likes the Cardassians (or Kardashians).
 
Indeed. Incidentally I may still have a few of the Marvel comics of which you speak, if they were published back in the late 1970’s/early 1980’s. At least I don’t think I ever threw them away.
 
We certainly saw any number of mysterious alien beings who were in reality made of ‘pure energy’ but chose to take on the appearance of human form. That and planets that looked a lot like the Garden of Eden but were anything but (cue shot of redshirts being exterminated without warning).
 
tomarin said:
I just re-watched “The Doomsday Machine” and I have to say it seemed much better than I remember it. I especially like it when you can hear the terror starting to creep into Kirk’s voice as he’s ordering Mr. Scott to beam him off the Constitution as it comes dangerously close to the maw of the Doomsday Machine – “Beam me up, Scotty. Do it now, Mr. Scott…”

I mean, you know he’s going to make it out of there but it’s a very suspenseful moment. I think the transporter is malfunctioning at the last minute or something.
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Here’s the shipyards where the machines were built:
 
tomarin said:
I picked “All Our Yesterdays” as my favorite of the entire series because despite its flaws it has heart to spare. And it’s also very moving and sad. And it has Mariette Hartley in a fur bikini. And the cool idea of sending your entire population back into your planet’s history to avoid extinction (although why they couldn’t just colonize another planet is beyond me - were they not Federation members?). It’s just such a memorable episode and has such a high “wow” factor.

The biggest problem and I was fully aware of this as a child is with Spock’s ‘reversion’ or ‘de-evolution’ into pre-Awakening Vulcanness. I don’t like science fiction that has individuals “de-evolving,” it just reeks of pop pseudo-science, or anti-science. However I did read somewhere of one fan’s explanation that Vulcans are always somewhat mildly in telepathic contact with other Vulcans, and therefore Spock reverted under the influence of that mild telepathic link with the Vulcans of that time period. Which sort of makes sense.
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It does, especially given the episode “The Immunity Syndrome”, where the Vulcan-crewed USS *Intrepid *gets eaten by a space amoeba. When all the Vulcans die, Spock gets an “Obi-Wan” headache.

If it’s true, though, it could cause some problems if Spock ever went too far back, like to the Vulcan Pliocene, and started swinging from trees and trying to groom McCoy.
 
One of the few times I remember any of these series getting truly creative (my comment above was meant as a diss at the many yawn-inducing “pure energy” creatures) was an episode of Star Trek Next Gen in which Riker encounters a female humanoid whom he attempts to romance only to discover that in their species the male carries the baby! (Or something like that.)
 
tomarin said:
We certainly saw any number of mysterious alien beings who were in reality made of ‘pure energy’ but chose to take on the appearance of human form. That and planets that looked a lot like the Garden of Eden but were anything but (cue shot of redshirts being exterminated without warning).
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Well, on the other hand, you’ve got those beings in “Catspaw” but seeing their true form was really a let-down. What were those things, anyway? It was embarrassing. Then the aliens from the Andromeda galaxy in By Any Other Name, with their multiple tentacles…but we never see their real form. There is the guy in the box in Is There In Truth No Beauty, who is basically a madness inducing light show. The rock creature in The Savage Curtain is different and don’t forget the Horta in Devil in the Dark.

Dan
 
Kirk’s weight fascinates me. When I watched as a kid I always thought Kirk looked a little flabby in the middle - in fact Shatner did gain some weight, I’m not sure in which season it begins to show, due to an acrimonious divorce he was going through, which he blamed on stresses on his personal life created by the success of the show and his new-found fame.

Now in the episode “Charlie X” Kirk takes his shirt off to wrestle with Charlie in a friendly fashion and I still am not sure whether that is Kirk’s real tummy or whether he is sucking in his gut the way you do at the beach to make yourself look skinny (I know you do it, Carnelian, so don’t try to deny it). Since it’s Season 1 that may have been his real stomach, but it looks too taut to be believed.
 
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Well, on the other hand, you’ve got those beings in “Catspaw” but seeing their true form was really a let-down. What were those things, anyway? It was embarrassing. Then the aliens from the Andromeda galaxy in By Any Other Name, with their multiple tentacles…but we never see their real form. There is the guy in the box in Is There In Truth No Beauty, who is basically a madness inducing light show. The rock creature in The Savage Curtain is different and don’t forget the Horta in Devil in the Dark.

Dan
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Ornithoids. Ones that look like they’ve just been hosed in acid by some angry neighbor.
 
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