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The_Dweller said:
As to the original question, I’m surprised no one’s mentioned the one line from the “no win scenario” scene which I thought most likely to appear on a religious forum. After Saavik has failed the test, she asks Kirk “Any suggestions, Admiral?” and Kirk replies " Prayer, Mr. Saavik, the Klingons don’t take prisoners." I make no apologies for knowing this by heart.😃

BTW, I thought Ricardo Montalban’s performance as Khan was Oscar worthy, but there’s no way they’d ever nominate someone from a Star Trek movie. Patrick Stewart couldn’t even get nominated for an Emmy.

RIP Charlton Heston.
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Agreed.
 
You know, both Kahn and Kirk did those scenes against a blank wall, seperately. Montleban did his scenes before Shatner did his, they were never together nor played off each other in the filming of that. Which makes that acting that much better.

And btw, that was Ricardo’s real chest muscles in that movie.

I think that the whole Kobyashi Maru sequence and Kirk’s answer to the test really sums up James T Kirk, and sums up the attitude of the original series. Kirk doesn’t like to lose, and does whatever he can to turn around a bad situation and pull through. That’s summed up again in ST3 when they blow up the ship and the crew is watching it burn up on entry into the Genesis planet. Kirk says “My God Bones, what have I done?” and Bones says “What you’ve always done. Turn death into a chance to live.” Great stuff right there. And that’s why I dig James T Kirk.

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thomasf said:
You know, both Kahn and Kirk did those scenes against a blank wall, seperately. Montleban did his scenes before Shatner did his, they were never together nor played off each other in the filming of that. Which makes that acting that much better.

And btw, that was Ricardo’s real chest muscles in that movie.

I think that the whole Kobyashi Maru sequence and Kirk’s answer to the test really sums up James T Kirk, and sums up the attitude of the original series. Kirk doesn’t like to lose, and does whatever he can to turn around a bad situation and pull through. That’s summed up again in ST3 when they blow up the ship and the crew is watching it burn up on entry into the Genesis planet. Kirk says “My God Bones, what have I done?” and Bones says “What you’ve always done. Turn death into a chance to live.” Great stuff right there. And that’s why I dig James T Kirk.

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Exactly.

“I reprogrammed the simulation so it was possible to rescue the ship.”
“What?”
“He cheated!”
“I changed the conditions of the test. I got a commendation for original thinking. I don’t like to lose.”
“Then you’ve never faced that situation–faced death.”
“I don’t believe in a no-win scenario.”
 
ByzCath said:
Yes, the only thing I really liked about Enterprise were the MACOs.
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Enterprise was infinitely better than TNG. (Not that that was difficult.) TNG was all Whoopi Goldberg & touchy-feely & self-exploring - what use would that have been for getting the better of the Xindi ? The “Enterprise” aliens were a billion times more credible than the actors with weird make-up inflicted on us by TNG and its PC drivel about the hand of person never haver set foot, or whatever they mutilated the line into. 😦​

 
So which star trek has the best theme song guys?

I vote for “Star Trek:The Motion Picture” by composer Jerry Goldsmith, which also happens to be the theme song for TNG, but I really disliked that show.

It’s almost as good as anything John Williams has composed for films… almost…

“Ilea’s Theme” otherwise known as “ST:TMP’s Overture” is also fantastic… Really really beautiful music.
 
colliric said:
So which star trek has the best theme song guys?

I vote for “Star Trek:The Motion Picture” by composer Jerry Goldsmith, which also happens to be the theme song for TNG, but I really disliked that show.

It’s almost as good as anything John Williams has composed for films… almost…

“Ilea’s Theme” otherwise known as “ST:TMP’s Overture” is also fantastic… Really really beautiful music.
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I agree that ST:TMP was the best original theme. I remember reading a review at the release of ST:V which said that Shatner had stolen the theme from TNG. The guy was obviously not a Trekker. I liker Voyager, but truthfully, I would have to listen to them all in a short period of time to determine which came in second. My hunch would be Voyager.

BTW, there’s no way any network these days which would spend that amount of time on the opening credits. Too much wasted commercial time. By far, the worst theme was Enterprise. It sounded like something you’d hear on a soft rock FM station.

Another BTW, in TMP, when Scotty was taking Kirk to the newly fitted Enterprise, that, IMO, was one of the great moments in Star Trek film.

“Thank you Mr. Scott.”
“Aye Sir”.

It just doesn’t get any better than that, at least to a fan of TOS.
 
DaveBj said:
In analyzing the ship’s name, “maru” (literally, “round”) is a common second word in the name of Japanese ships. As for the Kobayashi part, as far as I can tell, the ship was names after Takeru Kobayashi, six-time winner of the Nathan’s hot-dog eating contest.

(Until someone else comes up with a better explanation 😛 )

DaveBj
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First of all, that hot dog guy was amazing. Second, Wikipedia defines Kobayashi as “small forest”. Since we all know Wiki to be infallible, it must be true!😃
 
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colliric said:
So which star trek has the best theme song guys?

I vote for “Star Trek:The Motion Picture” by composer Jerry Goldsmith, which also happens to be the theme song for TNG, but I really disliked that show.

It’s almost as good as anything John Williams has composed for films… almost…

“Ilea’s Theme” otherwise known as “ST:TMP’s Overture” is also fantastic… Really really beautiful music.
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I agree that TMC is the best.
 
The_Dweller said:
Another BTW, in TMP, when Scotty was taking Kirk to the newly fitted Enterprise, that, IMO, was one of the great moments in Star Trek film.

“Thank you Mr. Scott.”
“Aye Sir”.

It just doesn’t get any better than that, at least to a fan of TOS.
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Yep. They played that scene at the Academy Awards last year as part of the “in Memoriam” segment. It was really really fitting.
 
colliric said:
Yep. They played that scene at the Academy Awards last year as part of the “in Memoriam” segment. It was really really fitting.
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Yes, I noticed that it was the only clip which contained any audio. Perhaps The Academy was trying to make up for the time they snubbed DeForest Kelley the year he died.
 
I liked it when Bones scanned a guy then said, “He’s dead Jim.”

It was also pretty good when he said, " ^*&$#@ Jim I’m a *doctor *not a (carpenter, plumber, butcher)" I think thats how that line went.
 
Anybody interested in the parodoxes connected with all the episodes, movies, series?, I find the parodox of the Nexus quite interesting.

When you enter the Nexus you enter your own reality. So when Pichard went searching for Kirk, did he really find Kirk or did he just find a Kirk of his reality? When he and Kirk defeated the professor (can’t remember his name) did he defeat the actual one or was it his preception of him in his reality. Remember that to enter the Nexus one had to enter through the ribbon, to leave one had to leave through the ribbon. Pichard never left the Nexus as far as could be seen. Did he actually change time or did he just change his own reality? If he was still in the Nexus then all the TNG movies that happened after happened in the Nexus.
 
Have you read any Star Trek novels by William Shatner? I can’t remember the exact one, but there is one that centers around Generations, and Kirk coming back to life. I can’t really remember the plot (I’ve read MANY, MANY Star Trek novels since then), but it was very similar to your question. BTW, the name of the Malcolm McDowell’s character in Generations is Tolian Soran.

ARUGH!!! Temporal tampering always gives me a headache, and I’ve got a beauty of a headache right now (quick, who said that?). Yet, any episode/movie that had time travel (especially “City on the Edge of Forever”, “Tomorrow is Yesterday”, and The Voyage Home) usually are one of my favorites, but they usually are the ones that gives me the biggest headaches. The Naked Time (the one with the PSI 2000 virus and the cold start of the warp engines and the phrase “You cannae change the laws of physics”) also really confuses me. If they traveled back 3 days in time, before the virus started, would the Lt. who willed himself dead not have died in the first place? Is he still alive?

And I’m going to leave this subject there, because the bottle of Aleve in my medicine chest is calling me.

Nuq NeH,
Ericka
 
BamaRider said:
Thanks, I was way off. I’m gonna put it on my NetFlix list just so I can see that scene again. Bones was the best.
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IMO, it was also the best movie: Nimoy directed, and the whole cast just seems to be having the time of their lives all the way through.

Other memorable moments, Chekov asking passers-by where the ‘Nuclear Wessels’ are kept, Scotty trying to use a computer mouse as a microphone, and Kirk explaining Spock’s weirdness as an lingering effect of the 60s, when he did ‘Too much LDS’…

I’m grinning just thinking about it!😃
 
BamaRider said:
It was also pretty good when he said, " ^*&$#@ Jim I’m a *doctor *not a (carpenter, plumber, butcher)" I think thats how that line went.
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His best was ‘Damit Jim, I’m a Doctor, not as escalator’ when Kirk asks him to carry something [someone?] up a hill…
 
Sam_Maloney said:
His best was ‘Damit Jim, I’m a Doctor, not as escalator’ when Kirk asks him to carry something [someone?] up a hill…
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That would be “Elaan of Troyus” (sic). He is carrying a pregnant high priestess up a hill into a cave because of dangerous conditions on the ground. The baby is delivered by Bones, and is later named Leonard James (or was it James Leonard?).

I really like “Dammit Jim, I’m a doctor, not a bricklayer” when he’s asked to repair the silicon based Horta in “Devil in the Dark”. Another good one is when he’s asked to help out Scotty with repairs in an emergency situation, and he states “Dammit Jim, I’m a doctor, not an engineer”. Scotty replies, “Now, you’re an engineer”.

Nuq NeH,
Ericka
 
Sam_Maloney said:
Other memorable moments, Chekov asking passers-by where the ‘Nuclear Wessels’ are kept…
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That scene was actually shot unscripted. The police officer in the scene was actually a police officer keeping the barrier for crowd control. Even the line by the lady with the long dark hair (Something like “Gee, I don’t know if I know the answer to that question. I think it’s across the bay, in Alameda”) was unscripted, and Nimoy thought it was so great that he later contacted her and put her in the credits.

Can anyone tell that I’ve read I am Spock and I am NOT Spock many times?

Nuq NeH,
Ericka
 
Nope… 😃 Would it surprise you that I also have a Vulcan IDIC tattoo, as well?

God Bless!
Ericka
 
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