Star Wars Video Game to Allow Characters To Have Homosexual Romances

[mellowcalico]

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So language doesn’t seem to be a problem or sexual content and even the violence seems to be rated as PG13 so what should be my concern as a parent. According to the internet there are many good MMO games for children. And it is rated for age 13Teen. For most on these forums at least, even the homosexual choice is not a problem

Mostly technical stuff that takes Forever to read.

I am not sure how old your children are, but Lord of the Rings Online is pretty tame and I would say okay for a teenager (the game anyway, like another poster said you can’t trust the “chat window” where other players may talk–including sexual themes, cursing, etc. But you can set filters in LOTRO). There is smoking and alcohol use in the game though and you are still fighting (usually monsters, but sometimes other people).

If your kids are younger, Poptropica is really safe although not really an MMO (but that’s what makes it kid safe–you don’t have to worry about them talking to another player who may be an adult). I’ve also seen some TV commercials for other kid MMOs, but I can’t recall the names. Most of those types of games try to sell a lot of stuff. So while they may be kid safe, they might not be “wallet safe.”

The best way to be sure a video game is okay for your kids is to play it yourself. Depending on what it is, you can rent the game, try it out, read reviews, etc. And then decide if it’s right for your kids.

Good luck!

 

[gam197]

originally posted by PrayerShark
I could safely say that of these two…

A gay Jedi Master who upholds justice, order and defends the innocent of the galaxy.
A straight Sith Lord who rapes, murders and wages war on the innocent of the galaxy.

…the former would be a better role model for your son.

Not if he is having homosexual romances. The Sith has always been in the movies and in the movies he doesn’t rape but wages war on innocence - a very common theme in most video games.

 

[BlueEyedLady]

Not if he is having homosexual romances. The Sith has always been in the movies and in the movies he doesn’t rape but wages war on innocence - a very common theme in most video games.

Excuse me if I think that your priorities are out of whack. A murderous sith lord is a better role model than a gay but peaceful and noble Jedi?

Yeah, your issues seem to run a bit deeper than ESRB ratings.

 

[gam197]

originally posted by Maryjk
Have you ever seen the Star Wars movies? These are not geared to children. I would not let a young child watch them

Baloney! I love the Star Wars Movies and have seen them so many times with many children age 7 and older. I have bought tons of figures and really thought it was great.

Originally the first three trilogy had nothing in them. Granted the the third in the newer series is the only one I view sparingly because most the jedis are killed. OtherwidetThis show was geared to I say, 12 yea,r old but younger children like it too. You don’t see the blood and if you want it to be its tasers so be it- would be just as useful. Remember it is supposed to be an advanced culture.

originally posted by mellowcalico
I am not sure how old your children are, but Lord of the Rings Online

I love Lord of Rings too but strangely enough it ftightened the 9 year old so I knew it was too adult - maybe it was too real but they didn’t take to it as well. Maybe because it was a deeper story line. It may pass when he gets to be 12 and older possibly.
I think also because the Legos was a big seller that this actually made them want to see the Star War movies.

In regard your comment on Cinderella I can’t even go there. I realize what the original Grimm tales were.

originally posted by KIT15
Indeed. All that entertainment was once considered childish for a reason…children partook of them

They didn’t just partook. They were the market and it was an innocence given to children so they would have some fun. The adults have latched onto it and I don’t have a problem with that until they try to steal everything that is good for the kids away from them so that parents don’t even want their children to partake of Star Wars.

The homosexual lobby tried a number of times to do it with Ernie and Bert. That is geared to three year olds.

 

[gam197]

originally posted by
So basically, the main advocates of the same sex relationships on the forums seems to be heterosexual men who want to roleplay lesbian romance in a video game.

Dusgusting! Are these the same ones who want the threesome in the other game put out by BioWare. Again as I said these games go way pass where they should but I will say if they are rated for Adults then that is where they should stay - not bringing it into the younger players

originally posted by BlueEyedLady
Excuse me if I think that your priorities are out of whack. A murderous sith lord is a better role model than a gay but peaceful and noble Jedi?

A peaceful jedi(male) who have sex with other men. This game is geared to thirteen year old and in life there are good people and bad. He has seen the movie and he knows the difference so what if he chooses that for abit. The Sith is a pretend bad guy- no worse than a rottenI gunman. IT IS A GAME.

And what I have seen from the gaming industry, there a whole lot worse with blood ,guts guns war themes everywhere - no I don’t have my values. wrong Everyone knows Darth Vader is a bad guy but remember however that he chooses the love of his son in the end.

 

[maryjk]

Baloney! I love the Star Wars Movies and have seen them so many times with many children age 7 and older. I have bought tons of figures and really thought it was great.

You are worried about a 13 year old and the OPTION of a homosexual interaction? But it is okay for a 7 to watch someone being burned alive?

This quite obviously isn’t about the ratings on games.

 

[PrayerShark]

Yes, I have to agree. Parental responsibility to what your children do, play or watch aside (which is a no-brainer anyway), a lot of the OP’s posts are coming off quite homophobic.

This below I find especially concerning.

gam197:

A peaceful jedi(male) who have sex with other men. This game is geared to thirteen year old and in life there are good people and bad. He has seen the movie and he knows the difference so what if he chooses that for abit. The Sith is a pretend bad guy- no worse than a rottenI gunman. IT IS A GAME.

I could easily replace Jedi with policeman and Sith with criminal, and I wouldn’t be surprised to get the same response.

 

[gam197]

originally posted by maryjk
You are worried about a 13 year old and the OPTION of a homosexual interaction? But it is okay for a 7 to watch someone being burned alive?

This quite obviously isn’t about the ratings on games.

who gets burned alive. When The Sith doesn’t seem that frightening with his big electical volts and as far as the seen with Darth Vader getting burned - it was a short scene.

As a said I avoid the third in the series totally because it was too frightening. The first was about Anakein’s childhood, The second was more or less a love story. the fourth was the original series and much milder except for when the planet and death star get blown up. They are again short scenes. Alot of destraction goes on during the movie so I am not sure how much a child would notice it. Granted probably was too young but he really wanted to watch and maybe I, too, was a bad parent. The other children were older. In fact I never showed it to them until they were around 11 or 12 but I think it was their influence that made him want to see. They just Star Wars all the time. I tend to see the guns as laser or taser. There is no blood or gore to suggest otherwise. Many of the characters that are shot are robots.

originally posted
I could easily replace Jedi with policeman and Sith with criminal, and I wouldn’t be surprised to get the same response.

Oh pleasssse!

 

[Kit15]

They didn’t just partook. They were the market and it was an innocence given to children so they would have some fun. The adults have latched onto it and I don’t have a problem with that until they try to steal everything that is good for the kids away from them so that parents don’t even want their children to partake of Star Wars.

That’s not it. No adults latched on and stole anything. The point is they *retained *it. The kids from the 70’s and 80’s grew up and the Star Wars franchise continues to cater to them in order to keep their old fans as well as market material like the Lego games to young children in order to get new fans.

This happens a lot in geeky circles.

 

[maryjk]

Baloney! I love the Star Wars Movies and have seen them so many times with many children age 7 and older. I have bought tons of figures and really thought it was great.

Originally the first three trilogy had nothing in them. Granted the the third in the newer series is the only one I view sparingly because most the jedis are killed. OtherwidetThis show was geared to I say, 12 yea,r old but younger children like it too. You don’t see the blood and if you want it to be its tasers so be it- would be just as useful. Remember it is supposed to be an advanced culture.

who gets burned alive. When The Sith doesn’t seem that frightening with his big electical volts and as far as the seen with Darth Vader getting burned - it was a short scene.

You seem to forget that not only are all of the Jedi’s killed, but Anakin is burned (to death in today’s world), and that is only after we see his legs cut off. He then pulls his burned body along the hot coals.

**As a said I avoid the third in the series totally because it was too frightening. **

What you said was that you watch it sparingly.
Because the Jedi’s are killed. Watching Anakin burned alive wasn’t mentioned. The entire movie is dark. We ended up at the theater twice. Once to see it, so we as parents could judge whether or not our son could see it. And once with our son, after we talked about the scenes in it.

The first was about Anakein’s childhood, The second was more or less a love story. the fourth was the original series and much milder except for when the planet and death star get blown up. They are again short scenes. A lot of destruction goes on during the movie so I am not sure how much a child would notice it. Granted probably was too young but he really wanted to watch and maybe I, too, was a bad parent. The other children were older. In fact I never showed it to them until they were around 11 or 12 but I think it was their influence that made him want to see. They just Star Wars all the time. I tend to see the guns as laser or taser. There is no blood or gore to suggest otherwise. Many of the characters that are shot are robots.

The Star Wars movies are not for young children. The are all rated PG or PG13. The fact that you allow young children to see the movies doesn’t change the rating. Sorry if you now feel that the games designed from a movie for teens and adults have themes for teens and adults.

 

[gam197]

originally posted by Maryjk
You seem to forget that not only are all of the Jedi’s killed, but Anakin is burned (to death in today’s world), and that is only after we see his legs cut off. He then pulls his burned body along the hot coals.

The reason I forgot that seen is that I skipped over it when it came to that particular scene as I skipped the other whole third movie in the second set and did not let him and even others watch it until later. I thought it was too gory and it really have never been one I played or let others play. The Whole series is fine with out it. You can explain that bad things happen. We also have lots of star War kids book.

The original trilogy is rated G but I think originally it may have been PG not sure. The only one rated PG 13 is the Revenge of the Sith and that is the one I could not watch. As I said I watch the movies with them and if I see something I don’t like,I fast forward as I block the movie. It remember being strongrt and I thought to wait on this movie and did actually wait but as I said I guess as the “Star War” talk, books and legos and I lowered my standard which is not good as a parent. I did that for only child. I admit that and I am not proud ot it. We watch many G movies and don’t subscribe to cable so TV is rare.

I don’t have a problem if they adjust the rating to a M rating but then to say it is OK for 13 years old and no one has a problem. What is that?

.originally posted Kit15
The point is they retained it. The kids from the 70’s and 80’s grew up and the Star Wars franchise continues to cater to them in order to keep their old fans as well as market material like the Lego games to young children in order to get new fansThis happens a lot in geeky circles. .

I think that is great. But why not retain so all ages can enjoy instead throwing the 13 year olds prematurely into an adult game.

Parents have really tough time finding decent games. They search and search and the kids really outgrow some of the games as they are not challenging to them. I think that is why many parents allow them to have advance rating. It always isn’t so much about all the inappropriate stuff that shouldn’t be on there but that the game is challenging but why not demand both.

Many parents won’t let them even view games.

 

[maryjk]

The reason I forgot that seen is that I skipped over it when it came to that particular scene as I skipped the other whole third movie in the second set and did not let him and even others watch it until later. I thought it was too gory and it really have never been one I played or let others play. The Whole series is fine with out it. You can explain that bad things happen. We also have lots of star War kids book.

My point is, these are not movies for young children. If you skip parts of it, that doesn’t change the rating. The parts of the movie are still there. You just don’t watch them.

So when they come out with games or books that have PG or PG13 themes you shouldn’t be surprised. The movies were rated as such, the themes are the same.

The original trilogy is rated G but I think originally it may have been PG not sure. The only one rated PG 13 is the Revenge of the Sith and that is the one I could not watch.

None of the movies have ever been rated “G.” Do you really think a rating on a movie would be “G” if it showed someone as what seems to a sex slave? (Leia in Return of the Jedi) Or in The Empire Strikes back when Han is tortured? Again, these are not movies for 7 year old children.

As I said I watch the movies with them and if I see something I don’t like,I fast forward as I block the movie. It remember being strongrt and I thought to wait on this movie and did actually wait but as I said I guess as the “Star War” talk, books and legos and I lowered my standard which is not good as a parent. I did that for only child. I admit that and I am not proud ot it.

I am sure we have all done things as parents that we regret. The problem is that since you allowed him to watch the movie, you now think that everything to do with that movie should be okay. That just isn’t the case.

I don’t have a problem if they adjust the rating to a M rating but then to say it is OK for 13 years old and no one has a problem. What is that?

I just don’t think that having an option for a homosexual relationship is a problem.
My son won’t be interested.

In addition, the rating is a guide. Even though my son is 16, I still have to clear games rated “T” and “M.”

I think that is great. But why not retain so all ages can enjoy instead throwing the 13 year olds prematurely into an adult game.

The simple solution is to not allow your child to play the game.

Parents have really tough time finding decent games. They search and search and the kids really outgrow some of the games as they are not challenging by them. I think that is why many parents allow them to have advance rating. It always isn’t so much about all the inappropriate stuff that shouldn’t be on there but that the game is challenging but why not demand both.

Many parents won’t let them even view games.

 

[yogicat]

Sorry, but this is for the parents to control. Plenty of adults, including myself, enjoy video games. The age rating is right there on the box, and when you order the game online. If a parent see’s that and ignores it, that’s their choice. As far as I could tell, the homosexual relations (as well as the hetero ones) are optional. If this kid can get on an MMO and play, he can get on the internet…

 

[PrayerShark]

…and look at how homosexual relationships are the new threat to the galaxy and Sith Lords are just misunderstood.

 

[gam197]

origially posted by maryjk
My point is, these are not movies for young children. If you skip parts of it, that doesn’t change the rating. The parts of the movie are still there. You just don’t watch them.

The orginal trilogy is rated G or PG (I will check it) but even that isn’t out of range for 11 year old and this movie was intended in the 1970’s for 11 -13 year olds. Remember the toy industry was geared at the time for children . As I said they were older except one and I basically skipped one movie so give me a break. If I had a choice between the two the movies or gaming, I pick the movies any day, The sith is the most ridiculus with his scary “wuw” lighting and s tick that is lite up there is really another frightening tool. Foolish stuff for kids.

Have you never seen the lighting shows for kids.

This game is rated T and that makes fir 13 year old. There are many thirteen who just enjoying gaming too. Sorry adults, you need to be in the M games if you want same-sex relationships.

 

[Nicko]

This game is rated T and that makes fir 13 year old.

No. It means it may

No, if you want a same-sex relationship, you need a real person to have it with.

This game does not offer players the option to have same-sex relationships. It does not even offer players the option to have opposite-sex relationships. It offers players the option to have their characters engage in romantic subplots. Recently, the game has ceased to discriminate against people who (for whatever reason) wish to roleplay a same-sex romance.

 

[maryjk]

The orginal trilogy is rated G or PG (I will check it) but even that isn’t out of range for 11 year old and this movie was intended in the 1970’s for 11 -13 year olds. Remember the toy industry was geared at the time for children . As I said they were older except one and I basically skipped one movie so give me a break. If I had a choice between the two the movies or gaming, I pick the movies any day, The sith is the most ridiculus with his scary “wuw” lighting and s tick that is lite up there is really another frightening tool. Foolish stuff for kids.
Have you never seen the lighting shows for kids.

The original trilogy is rate PG, Parental Guidance Suggested. It, like the PG and PG13 rating now, allows parent to make the decision on whether your child is ready for the movie. You may feel it is okay for a younger child to watch, because you hold the remote. I know there are movies I allow my son to watch, but only if we skip “the bad parts.” Keep in mind, my son is 16. But just because I allow him to watch the “R” movie, doesn’t mean he can play the game that spins off of it.

This game is rated T and that makes fir 13 year old. There are many thirteen who just enjoying gaming too. Sorry adults, you need to be in the M games if you want same-sex relationships.

All “T” rated games are not okay for every 13 year old. As the parent, YOU need to decide what your child is ready for. Just like as I parent, I decide what my child is ready for.

I do not abdicate my parental responsibilities to the rating system for games, nor for movies.

 

[gam197]

originally posted by nikko
It offers players the option to have their characters engage in romantic subplots. Recently, the game has ceased to discriminate against people who (for whatever reason) wish to roleplay a same-sex romance.

Anyone can play this game; there is no discrimination going on. You just have to play it as it is. Any how about those that would like a threesome, it is alrady is the other game . This is a T game so it should stay as true to that rating as possible.

originally posted by Mayjk
Keep in mind, my son is 16. But just because I allow him to watch the “R” movie, doesn’t mean he can play the game that spins off of it.

I hope you are not telling me that you allow your son to watch R rated movies after just cussing me out for one movie. IWe have older children and they are not allowed in our home. It would have to have something to totally significance and even then I’d have the remote in my hand But very few and I mean very few have come into my home… You are concerned that Princess Leia iis a sex xlave in one part and who know what she is. This is one scene and I don’t even think the kids mines went there,

Gaming requires the same kind of scrutiny.

 

[maryjk]

I hope you are not telling me that you allow your son to watch R rated movies after just cussing me out for one movie.

Please quote me showing where I was “cussing.”

We have older children and they are not allowed in our home. It would have to have something to totally significance and even then I’d have the remote in my hand But very few and I mean very few have come into my home… You are concerned that Princess Leia iis a sex xlave in one part and who know what she is. This is one scene and I don’t even think the kids mines went there,

Gaming requires the same kind of scrutiny.

Again, my son is 16. There are movies I allow him to watch that others may not. Being the parent that is my right. You as your child’s parent, are allowed to do the same.

For instance, my son has watched the movie “We Were Soldiers.” We happen to know Gen. Hal Moore. After watching the movie, at CYO, Gen Moore answered questions from the teens. It was an incredible experience for my son. It was living history.

That said, I would not automatically allow my son to watch ANY “R” rated movie. Just ones that I have previewed and we, his parents, decide that the good outweighs the bad.

Now, simply because I allowed my son to watch that movie does not mean that I would think that every game, toy or book would be okay for him. That is what the issue seems to be. Because your son watched a movie, you feel that every book, toy and game should be okay for him to be part of. That just isn’t the case.

“T” games are okay for most teens. Maybe your son isn’t ready for this game. If that is the case, all you need to do is to say “NO.” It is something that parents do all the time.

 

[gam197]

orinally posted by Maryjk

Please quote me showing where I was “cussing.”

It is just an expression.

originally posted by Maryjk
Now, simply because I allowed my son to watch that movie does not mean that I would think that every game, toy or book would be okay for him. That is what the issue seems to be. Because your son watched a movie, you feel that every book, toy and game should be okay for him to be part of. That just isn’t the case.

Nor do I I checked the ERSB rating There are 118 Star War Games and they are mostly E or 10+. There are 31 geared to age 13+. This seems to be a very popular game.

Players can freely explore many areas in the game, including clubs that depict scantily clad female dancers with exposed cleavage; some sequences include dialogue with sexual innuendo (e.g., “An hour. I think I’m insulted. We’ll need the whole night,” “I’ll be sure to make conjugal visits,” and “Come, dear, let’s forgo the nuptials and proceed to the honeymoon.”). The words “damn” and “hell” can be heard in dialogue throughout the game.

According to players at least on this forum, this is milder than the write-up. Yet now not only would my son but everyone else’s teen would be able to see two males or two females- Corrrect?

. Some sequences depict brief instances of blood and gore: to complete one quest, players must dip a skull in a pool of blood; in another mission, players deliver a severed head to a specific location and place it on a pike

This seems to be the worse part. Everything else is light sabers and electrical .

I have been watching the youtube videos. I can see why it is T(teen) but then again, it looks pretty mild compared to other games I’ve seen. Mostly light sabers and electrical according ERSB