Stars adopting African babies, now Madonna's getting in on the act

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What’s with all the stars getting their own African baby? It’s a nice idea, but I was reading about Madonna. The baby’s father is still alive. Why doesn’t she just help out the dad of the baby? It looks as if some people over there are suspicious about her motives and trying to put a stop to it. Is this a new publicity stunt?
 
I had many of the same questions that you did - this story is unsettling. Apparently some Malawians feel the same:
But “what Eye of the Child is saying is: You cannot buy a child as if you are buying a house,” Mandere told The Associated Press. “This process is too short, applying on Tuesday, and yesterday the court gave the OK. I don’t think that the High Court has any information about how Madonna is when it comes to child-rearing.”
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He said Malawi’s laws do not allow international adoption unless the parents live in the country for a year, during which social welfare workers investigate their ability to care for a child.
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Madonna’s charity Raising Malawi is setting up an orphan care center to provide food, education and shelter for up to 4,000 children.
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usatoday.com/life/people/2006-10-13-madonna-leaves-malawi_x.htm?csp=34
 
Explorer said:
What’s with all the stars getting their own African baby? It’s a nice idea, but I was reading about Madonna.** The baby’s father is still alive**. Why doesn’t she just help out the dad of the baby? It looks as if some people over there are suspicious about her motives and trying to put a stop to it. Is this a new publicity stunt?
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Since when do you have to wait for a childs parents to be dead to adopt their child? Or is this something specific to Africa?
 
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Karin said:
Since when do you have to wait for a childs parents to be dead to adopt their child? Or is this something specific to Africa?
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a lot of people are puting their politcal agenda ahead ot what is best for this chid. They say the child should have a choice. ok-do you choose to live in abject poverty for the rest of your life and probably not even make it out of chidhood or would you like to to be the pampered son of a billionaire? Heck as much as i dislike madonna i would agree to let her adopt me in a new york minute!

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a lot of people are puting their politcal agenda ahead ot what is best for this chid. They say the child should have a choice. ok-do you choose to live in abject poverty for the rest of your life and probably not even make it out of chidhood or would you like to to be the pampered son of a billionaire? Heck as much as i dislike madonna i would agree to let her adopt me in a new york minute!

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Good point Bob. At least Madonna has settled down somewhat from her previous excesses. I thought that it was weird that the government there was making such a big deal about it. It’s not exactly the most together country, they should be happy for the boy. The father apparently is.
 
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Good point Bob. At least Madonna has settled down somewhat from her previous excesses. I thought that it was weird that the government there was making such a big deal about it. It’s not exactly the most together country, they should be happy for the boy. The father apparently is.
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The goverment probably wants a bit of padding for their pockets;)
 
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The goverment probably wants a bit of padding for their pockets;)
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That and a sense of feeling embarrassed by their own inadequacies. So then they make a big deal about their high standards being violated by allowing a quick adoption. Meanwhile they probably have people dying of AIDS in the streets. The mother died in childbirth, correct?
 
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That and a sense of feeling embarrassed by their own inadequacies. So then they make a big deal about their high standards being violated by allowing a quick adoption. Meanwhile they probably have people dying of AIDS in the streets. The mother died in childbirth, correct?
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Yeah she did die in childbirth…but you know gals here in the states do also…that is nothing new or specific to Africa…I think.
 
In the news they said that she had 10 or 12 little children lined up so she could pick one out. They said it was reminiscent of a slave auction.

My wife said Rush was joking about how the latest Hollywood accessory is a little african child.
 
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In the news they said that she had 10 or 12 little children lined up so she could pick one out. They said it was reminiscent of a slave auction.
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Maybe it was?!?!:eek:
My wife said Rush was joking about how the latest Hollywood accessory is a little african child.
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Does not seem to be a joke…alot of them are running out and getting one.
 
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Good point Bob. At least Madonna has settled down somewhat from her previous excesses. I thought that it was weird that the government there was making such a big deal about it. It’s not exactly the most together country, they should be happy for the boy. The father apparently is.
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The real agenda is a belief by social workers that black children can only be raised black parents. She would probably run into the same problem if she tried to adopt a black American child
 
estesbob said:
The real agenda is a belief by social workers that black children can only be raised black parents. She would probably run into the same problem if she tried to adopt a black American child
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Actaully she would not…she would have an easier time adopting a black american child…there are so many waiting for adpotion that the race thing is no longer an issue if your white.
 
That’s pretty tasteless and insensitive to line them up like that. She’s not a very subtle person. I think liberals sometimes have a patronizing attitude towards Black people that’s condesending.

That’s funny what Rush said, but at least it’s a positive fad that does some good.
 
Not that it matters, but barring some situation where the child was literally taken from the father, I approve. Adopting kids in need is taking a risk and making a sacrifice.
 
I just read that the father specified that his son be raised a Christian. The father is a Christian as was the boy’s mother and they sang in the church choir. I guess that just doesn’t mean anything in the grand scheme of things. Does Madonna know the father specified that? Does anyone think she will raise the boy a Christian? I seriously doubt that! She doesn’t call herself a Christian.😦
 
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Actaully she would not…she would have an easier time adopting a black american child…there are so many waiting for adpotion that the race thing is no longer an issue if your white.
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She would have to fight tooth and nail for it in the US. Heres the policy of the National Association of Black Social Workers:

Summary and Conclusion
NABSW has a long history of promoting the preservation of families of African ancestry, singled out for its position on transracial adoption nearly thirty years ago, the organization has always maintained the importance of finding culturally grounded options for children of African ancestry before giving consideration to placing our children outside of the community. The Indian Child Welfare Act has emphasized, for close to thirty years, that Native American children be placed within their tribe or the Native American community before being considered for placement in other communities. The cornerstone of this legislation supports the notion of the importance of culture in the lives of Native American children. IEPA, and ASFA seem to deny the importance of culture in the lives of children of African ancestry.
 
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That is apparantly exactly what happened:

dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=410451&in_page_id=1770
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Interesting article. Some quotes:
“He just said she was a good Christian lady, who does a lot of charity work and also supported the orphanage.”

“Yohane said he wanted his son raised with Christian values. And he had been repeatedly reassured that everything was being done in David’s best interest.”

“He will always be in my heart. I hate to see him leave Malawi but I have come to accept the loss.”

"I am a single man with no experience of these things. My in-laws, who live in Zambia, did not want him and my extended family is too poor to take him in.

“I was scared he would die like my other children so I took him where he could be looked after properly. I felt very sore in my heart, but I could think of no other way.”

Basicly, 12 babies photos were emailed to Madonna and she quickly chose one. His wife died one week after the boy was born and the other two older children dies of malaria. The baby became sick at one month and so the father sent him off to be cared for because he didn’t know what to do. He always hoped he would come back to live with him but he is very poor with no extended family able to help. He knew when he went to court that the baby was being taken away, but when he sent the baby to the orphanage he never imagined the baby would be adopted. Madonna’s nanny took the baby to see his father one last time. She’s travelling with a nanny, a wet nurse, a body guard, and her husband.
 
estesbob said:
She would have to fight tooth and nail for it in the US. Heres the policy of the National Association of Black Social Workers:

Summary and Conclusion

NABSW has a long history of promoting the preservation of families of African ancestry, singled out for its position on transracial adoption nearly thirty years ago, the organization has always maintained the importance of finding culturally grounded options for children of African ancestry before giving consideration to placing our children outside of the community. The Indian Child Welfare Act has emphasized, for close to thirty years, that Native American children be placed within their tribe or the Native American community before being considered for placement in other communities. The cornerstone of this legislation supports the notion of the importance of culture in the lives of Native American children. IEPA, and ASFA seem to deny the importance of culture in the lives of children of African ancestry.
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Not really…the State of NJ has no problems with sending black kids to white families to be adopted…happes alot actaully…I have several friends who have gone this route adotping black babies since their are hardly any white ones to adopt.
 
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