Statue of Pope Francis' new saint could be kicked out of US capital

[Elizium23]

Statue of Pope Francis’ new saint could be kicked out of US capital

Just weeks after Pope Francis announced his intention to canonize missionary Father Junipero Serra during his upcoming visit to the states, a California legislator has proposed replacing the soon-to-be-saint’s statue in the U.S. Capitol – but critics of the move are beginning to speak out.

“I certainly wouldn’t endorse it,” Monsignor Francis J. Weber, an author and historian of 18th century missionary, told EWTN News Feb. 6.

Father Serra helped establish the California missions, many of which became the centers of major cities like San Diego. In recent weeks, however, California State Sen. Ricardo Lara has proposed that the priest’s statue be replaced with a less “controversial” figure.

 

[Zoltan_Cobalt]

I hold people like Father McGivney and Padre Junipero Serra in very high esteem.

It is long about time Father Serra was Canonized.

 

[otjm]

“Controversial”? The liberals preach tolerance, but their view of tolerance reminds me of Animal Farm: all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.

The secularist liberals are tolerant of those who agree with them, and no others.

 

[Denise1957]

I support the canonization of Fr. Serra, but I don’t see the need to have a statue of him in Washington, D.C.

I can see the merit in putting a statue of him in the capitol building in Sacramento, though, but I don’t know if this has been proposed. There are Californians who are against his canonization, so maybe a statue won’t be put in California’s capitol building, either.

Edited to add: Oops…my mistake. I read the OP too quickly and didn’t realize that there is already a statue of Fr. Serra in the US capitol building, and that someone is recommending that it be replaced. Sorry.

 

[Gorgias]

“Controversial”? The liberals preach tolerance, but their view of tolerance reminds me of Animal Farm: all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.

The secularist liberals are tolerant of those who agree with them, and no others.

I’m guessing that the nature of the ‘controversy’ isn’t his being named a saint (after all, a statue of St Damien of Molokai is there!), but rather, based on the notion of the ‘controversy’ of missionary work by the Spanish in California.

 

[commenter]

In an age when “diversity” and “inclusiveness” have become large industries, anti-Catholicism is the only respectable remaining prejudice.

 

[Tarpeian_Rock]

In an age when “diversity” and “inclusiveness” have become large industries, anti-Catholicism is the only respectable remaining prejudice.

You are, of course, 1,000% correct. Beyond the potential ginned-up controversy about Fr. Serra, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if some “liberal” mounted an effort to remove St. Damien’s statue as well, on the shop-worn “separation of church and state” argument. The idea of TWO Catholic saint statues in the U.S. Capitol - the horror!

 

[Joe_Kelley]

“Controversial”? The liberals preach tolerance, but their view of tolerance reminds me of Animal Farm: all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.

The secularist liberals are tolerant of those who agree with them, and no others.

Someplace I read that a liberal is one who will defend to the death your right to agree with him.

 

[otjm]

I’m guessing that the nature of the ‘controversy’ isn’t his being named a saint (after all, a statue of St Damien of Molokai is there!), but rather, based on the notion of the ‘controversy’ of missionary work by the Spanish in California.

That is a possibility, but one would assume that would have come up decades ago.

On the other hand, given some of the choice laws which have sprung forth from the fertile minds of the state legislators, one should not necessarily presume that they would have knowledge that the statue was in the Federal building.

 

[otjm]

Someplace I read that a liberal is one who will defend to the death your right to agree with him.

Yeah, they are the same group that is so vocally active on issues of our duty to accept diversity, until they define what is diversity, and what is not acceptable under that “big tent”.

 

[brian_custer]

this shouldn’t be much of a surprise given the increasingly secular nature of the people most catholics are all too happy to vote into office

 

[otjm]

You are, of course, 1,000% correct. Beyond the potential ginned-up controversy about Fr. Serra, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if some “liberal” mounted an effort to remove St. Damien’s statue as well, on the shop-worn “separation of church and state” argument. The idea of TWO Catholic saint statues in the U.S. Capitol - the horror!

And if not that, they could gin up the crime of conversion of the natives from their “natural” religion. Comes somewhere under the sin of denying “noble savage” status to all under the thumb of institutionalized discrimination and behavioral asymmetry of oppressive hegemony of the Eurocentric Papist colonial regime.

Did I miss anything? Been too long since I was acquainted with radicalspeak.

 

[NeedsMercy]

What does the issue of Fr. Serra’s statue have to do with “liberals” (or “conservatives” for that matter)? Neither word was mentioned in the article; nor were the words “left” or “right” mentioned except with regard to a description of the statue itself. Have I missed something?

 

[simonmic]

What does the issue of Fr. Serra’s statue have to do with “liberals” (or “conservatives” for that matter)? Neither word was mentioned in the article; nor were the words “left” or “right” mentioned except with regard to a description of the statue itself. Have I missed something?

They(some) are dreaming up ( at the moment) the idea of someone liberal and anti-Christian doing something as they describe. If it happens they can say, “See, i told you so”

Admittedly, I’ve done the same thing too, but not so much for the left…

 

[simonmic]

I saw a story once in a news video how someone had cut off the head of an Our Lady statue and replaced it with a gnome. Very sad, but things like this sometimes happen. I don’t know the details on why they did it though.

 

[CatholicFireman]

In an age when “diversity” and “inclusiveness” have become large industries, anti-Catholicism is the only respectable remaining prejudice.

I won’t stir the pot here, but when I read the personal section on Wikipedia (yeah, yeah, I know ), I couldn’t help but think, “oh, no wonder”.

Funny how that’s not controversial anymore.

 

[Catholic_farmer]

Here is a list of all the statues. I see many controversial figures. Do we really need to sanitize the list? Should we remove all slave owners? George Washington tops that list. What about Robert E. Lee? He led the Confederate Army, after all. Or, should we, perhaps, accept the history of our country, warts and all, and stop trying to pretend we are perfect?

aoc.gov/capitol-hill/national-statuary-hall-collection/nsh-location

 

[CatholicFireman]

Here is a list of all the statues. I see many controversial figures. Do we really need to sanitize the list? Should we remove all slave owners? George Washington tops that list. What about Robert E. Lee? He led the Confederate Army, after all. Or, should we, perhaps, accept the history of our country, warts and all, and stop trying to pretend we are perfect?

aoc.gov/capitol-hill/national-statuary-hall-collection/nsh-location

Awesome post! So I guess the good Senator (representing D.C.) needs to take the plank out of his eye first, huh.

 

[simonmic]

I quite like Harper Lee

 

[oldcelt]

Here is a list of all the statues. I see many controversial figures. Do we really need to sanitize the list? Should we remove all slave owners? George Washington tops that list. What about Robert E. Lee? He led the Confederate Army, after all. Or, should we, perhaps, accept the history of our country, warts and all, and stop trying to pretend we are perfect?

aoc.gov/capitol-hill/national-statuary-hall-collection/nsh-location

Lee is there, IMO, for his actions at the end of the war and during his short remaining life. He did not promote the notion of the glorious “Lost Cause.” It would be others who did that after Lee’s death.