Well, don’t believe everything you hear. This is the teaching of the Apostles, and all who receive the Apostolic faith accept it. Did you not read this in the Bible?
Your disagreement does not change the facts. You can receive it, but you will do so in an unworthy manner, and bring condemnation onto yourself.
No, but this is the normative means by which Jesus has implemented His healing power for our sins.
Really? why are you here?
There is no other name under heaven by which we may be saved, other than Christ Jesus, our Lord. All who are saved are members of HIs One Body, the Church. The Church founded by Christ is One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic.
If this were true, then why did he found ONE CHURCH, and pray for unity, and why did all His Apotstles insist on unity?
To be truthful, hell waits for everyone, including Catholics. THe Catholic Church holds the fullness of Christ’s revelation about how we can avoid going there.
You are suffering from a deficient understanding of the Church.
I am glad to hear that you know you need to to this study. However, dont’ avoid doing it because you elect to reconcile with the Catholic Church. You still need the time and the research. You need the answers to your questions and concerns, which you will find. Your faith needs to grow to meet your current needs, as you are no longer a child. Your study will also help you respond to your husbands anti-Catholic views. This is your responsibility, so don;t shy away from it!
I think these will begin to clear up as you learn your faith better.
Don’t hate on yourself. You were not ready yet.When a parent takes their child for baptism, they make vows to raise them in the faith. How can you do that if you are not walking in it yourself? Now, you are ready to take on this responsibility of learning why the Church teaches what she does, and to help your children develop their faith also. You are their primary teacher!
This is totally out of context to what Jesus was teaching here. There is nothing in this passage and for that matter in this entire chapter that refers to private confession of sins.Yeah it’s in the Bible available in several ways including confessing to one another and confessing direct. Here’s one.
Matt 6:6 But thou when thou shalt pray, enter into thy chamber, and having shut the door, pray to thy Father in secret: and thy Father who seeth in secret will repay thee.
7And when you are praying, speak not much, as the heathens. For they think that in their much speaking they may be heard.
8Be not you therefore like to them, for your Father knoweth what is needful for you, before you ask him.
9Thus therefore shall you pray:
Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses, as we also forgive our trespasses
That’s dumb??
You missed my point, everyone is invited to come into His Church and partake in teh Eucharistic meal. If you do not intend to take the Church in it’s entirety, why would you want to recieve the Eucharist?
Once again you use scripture out of context to prove your side, not very convincingly I might add.
Read the scripture and look at the teaching of the Church. It is quite simple, the way you say this you are telling God what to do. Can’t you see this?
I never said any of those things? Those quotes are not mine. My husband? I am a male, you may quoted a different user. These are not my posts…I am glad to hear that you know you need to to this study. However, dont’ avoid doing it because you elect to reconcile with the Catholic Church. You still need the time and the research. You need the answers to your questions and concerns, which you will find. Your faith needs to grow to meet your current needs, as you are no longer a child. Your study will also help you respond to your husbands anti-Catholic views. This is your responsibility, so don;t shy away from it!
I think these will begin to clear up as you learn your faith better.
Don’t hate on yourself. You were not ready yet.When a parent takes their child for baptism, they make vows to raise them in the faith. How can you do that if you are not walking in it yourself? Now, you are ready to take on this responsibility of learning why the Church teaches what she does, and to help your children develop their faith also. You are their primary teacher!
If that is the case…then I probably have a spot in Hell with my name written all over it! But I don’t believe that and it’s hard to understand why the die hard Catholics think that every wrong doing is going to send you to Hell. Seriously…how long ago was the Bible written? Yeah…maybe things about contraception and whatnot are in the bible, but times have changed…situations have changed. I’m sure God understands that. YES…I was on birth control…but I can’t afford to have a ton of kids. It isn’t like back in the day when women stayed home to raise kids while the men worked. Both parents need to work to pretty much survive these days and all the necessities for children these days gets very expensive. Both my children were blessings from God. My husband had cancer and he was told he would never be able to have children. Plus I was on birth control when we had our first child. So what does that tell you? Obviously God is not punishing us for having sex before we got married…he provided us with a miracle. There are a lot of things that happened in my life that made me think I would never be accepted back into the Catholic Church and it wasn’t anything that I should be ashamed of. (Like sex before marriage, having a child out of wedlock, living with my husband before we got married)…things like that. Those things are frowned upon by the Catholic Church. But I don’t see that being wrong…we have been together for 10 years…we’re happily married…have 2 beautiful children. So if the church would have the nerve to tell my children we’re going to hell because I used contraception and my husband chooses not to go to church…then I guess it’ll be time to find a new chuch. Church should be enjoyable for everyone not frightening! I want my children to enjoy the teachings of God…not be frightened by them saying that if you do this…this is going to happen to you. So I guess for now…I could consider myself a partial cafeteria Catholic because I don’t fully agree with everything.
Honestly having lived 6 of the last 9 years in Mississippi and Alabama in highly protestant areas, the local Catholic priests often expain that only Catholics should come recieve. The general line is,You missed my point, everyone is invited to come into His Church and partake in teh Eucharistic meal. If you do not intend to take the Church in it’s entirety, why would you want to recieve the Eucharist?
It is much more than a symbol. It is the source and summit of our faith, it is Jesus Himself!
What I said was that I nor you have ever heard a priest say that everyone is not welcome, to join His Church and learn the faith and then recieve the Eucharist; if you are not in communion, why would you want to recieve communion? Isn’t that like stealing? You won’t do what is asked of you but you want the rewards.
mortal sins are forgiven in the sacremental confession only, sorry…Says the Catholic Church.
Nope, says Jesus Christ. Who says different, you?
Hey jlengle, the church doesn’t ever tell a person they are going to hell. 1 unrepentant mortal sin will result in a person going to hell, but mortal is requires the person’s sin meet the 3 conditions of significant matter, being fully informed, and fully intended. I don’t mean to offend at all, but I would say that some of the sins you’ve mentioned (premarrital sex, contraception, etc…) meet the significat matter, but you personally may not have been formed well enough yet to have mortally sinned in this reguard. (basically I’m saying yes, God does know the difference of judging a person who knew they did wrong and intended to vs. a person who didn’t know it was wrong or did something by accident - and the church admits only God knows then, no created person fully knows; thus Catholics err on the side of cautiuon and always confess significan sin b/c we don’t know how informed/intentional we are in every action)
This may come across as majorly theological, but 1 teaching pretty much universally accepted is that God is all knowing (it’s a component of being omnipotent or all powerful). That being the case God cannot change. Since from before the Earth ever existed, He alreadly knew every lesson our world could ever demonstrate or concieve, his witnessing the miracle of birht, the horror of a civil-war, etc…can not change his opinon. Thus with God we do not speak of opinion but truth. His ‘opinion’ defines the rules of the universe and the rules of salvation, thus His thoughts are that big ‘T’ truth that every religion if trying to bring to the world. God may say X is good in situation Y and sinful in sitation Z, but never says I changed my mind, X is now okay in both situations (this His truth can be specific/complex, but is never hypocritical and wavering)
1st let me agree that your children are a miracle, the are a blessing, are loved by God more than we can imagine. He wants them in heaven (and you and my family too), and will act through all of our lives to get in to follow His truth and enter heaven.
Once we’ve done things and seen good result, it is easy to rationalize bad choices. A man cheating with another married woman may find she was being abused and come to the rescue. But that doesn’t exonerate the fact the 2 were both cheating. Again, just an ends don’t justify the means argument. God defines reality, so His truth determines right/wrong. Catholics teach premarrital sex is wrong (and this is clear in the Bible and agreed on by nearly every faith on earth) not b/c we feel like it, but because we are of the position that God says so and thus it is true and important.
Please never believe if a Catholic (or anyone) tells you that your action will put your children in hell. St. Thomas Aquinas is obviously a great saint, his parents weren’t so hot on the idea of his being a priest. They went as far as locking him in a room with a prostitue to temp him away from the priesthood, sin on their part but certainly not his. Another example would be the child of a rapist, who may unfortunately bear shame, but are not guilty or tainted in any way. Each person is responsible for their own salvation. We do affect others greatly, but ultimately we are responsible for our own soul. Also Catholics never close the door on healing and redemption, so no matter what we do - hell isn’t certain, we can repent until the moment of death.
Just remember, the church’s job is to spread Truth as given to us from God. The church of a mouth piece for God and if that is frightening or soothing, it is just a reflectiong His truth and His justice.
not sure what to say! Is anything a sin??? Is there any truth to the way the bible tells us to lead our life???Great job on this post, thanks for chiming in!
Well, then I guess I am just damed to hell aren’t I? It is what it is because its ingrained in your mind. I don’t think Christ puts sin into “classes”. I understand the concept of venial and mortal sin, and I know the Catholic Church references 1 John 5:16-17. But I guess I don’t have the same interpretation the same as you. As I said before, the only seen I see as unforgivable is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Yes I understand there are other verses Eph. 5:5, 1 Cor. 6:9, etc. But if you just ask for forgiveness, accept Christ and live by his word, would he really deny you? I think not.