Yes but if God does reveal Himself to someone, He will never reveal something that is contradictory to what the Church teaches nor will he reveal anything new.
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God bless.
We enjoy finishing the act in a variety of ways quite honestly. Sorry if I scandalized those of you who are more prudent with your sex lives, but I truly don’t understand why someone has to be prudent in the bedroom with their spouses.
and chuckle. You know what??? Even though I don’t follow the teaching of how to fulfill the marital act, I feel God’s blessings everyday and that he loves me. My anxiety for such a trivial rule has left me.
Number 2…anyone new who comes to this board with questions such as ours is immediately bombarded with an intervention. One simple question is bombarded with doctrine, quotes from the Catechism and that still leaves the person all and feeling frustrated.:banghead: They leave and never return to the board because they can’t make heads or tails of what is being said. Finally number 3…there are the lurkers who are entertained by the threads. I dare say that perhaps they feel like us, but just don’t say anything.
This is an interesting perspective to read for me. I recently came back here after many months (maybe a year?) away. I left for the opposite frustration to which you are experiencing. I felt like traditional Catholic views were constantly challenged and criticized here, and I got tired of the constant debate and acrimony. I didn’t like the things that came out of my keyboard at times, as well, when driven to the breaking point. I can just go over to CNN or Yahoo Answers if I want that kind of frustration. But I am here trying it again. Let’s see if we can make it! It can be fun.One last thought, LaSainte. There a countless number of Catholics who feel like you and I. They aren’t going to speak up on this board. Sometimes we feel alone against the bombardment of exteme Catholicism. Number 1…being here is intimidating. Quite honestly, I graduated with a 3.8 from Univerisity and I have a hard time comprehending what some posts say. Sometimes, I have to read them more than once and still left
But again, I understand this is Catholic Answers!! I am thankful for this site even though it causes frustration!!
Bonne journee LaSainte!! Aie foi en Dieu!! Il est misericordieux!!!
Authentic private revelation cannot contradict the Deposit of Faith.
So let me guess extreme Catholics are the ones who follow the Magisterium of the Catholic Church?One last thought, LaSainte. There a countless number of Catholics who feel like you and I. They aren’t going to speak up on this board. Sometimes we feel alone against the bombardment of exteme Catholicism. Number 1…being here is intimidating. Quite honestly, I graduated with a 3.8 from Univerisity and I have a hard time comprehending what some posts say. Sometimes, I have to read them more than once and still left
But again, I understand this is Catholic Answers!! I am thankful for this site even though it causes frustration!!
Bonne journee LaSainte!! Aie foi en Dieu!! Il est misericordieux!!!
and let me guess…Those who dissent from such teachings such as ABC or the man needing to ejaculate in the vagina are cafeteria catholics.They are the ones who don’t understand how greatly they offend God and put their souls at risk. It’s a terrible thing. I wish you could see it. One day, perhaps you will.
Ike…am I offending the Church or am I offending God. Rules are man made. Here you are 1ke telling me I will go to hell.
I can understand that. It’s easy to get carried away at times. However there is a beauty to it all. Taking breaks from sex is a wonderful way to focus on other areas of intimacy. NFP can be a wonderful way of strengthening a marriage. And to be perfectly honest, you seem like you are pretty terrified of having another child, I think that fear will help restrain you during those periods of abstinence.
That sounds like a good start! I can tell you right now that if you meet every struggle you encounter with more prayer, than there is no way you can fail. But you need to focus on beating this struggle you are having with this teaching. The best way to do that is through frequent use of the sacraments (confession / communion) and with prayer like the rosary and adoration.
You’re welcome! Feel free to reach out to me at anytime as you go through this difficult time in your spiritual journey.I so appreciate how thoughtful your responses have been and how kind and even motivating some of your points have been
Take a look at my response to Rence’s post and see if that helps at all:
God.
They aren’t rules. That is what you fail to see. You think these are arbitrary “rules.” They are not. They are the divinely revealed truth about us, God, and our sexuality.
I am telling you no such thing. I don’t know who goes to hell and who does. And, I have certainly NOT stated you “will” go to hell. I have stated that you are imperiling yourself. Which you are.
Except for all the parts of God’s law that you reject. You can’t have it both ways.
Christ wants our whole hearts, our whole minds, and our whole soul. Not just parts of it.
You abused my gift of sexuality and ignored my teaching. Depart from me.
WOOT. So glad you responded this way.
This is a place where people argue and debate a lot. I have personal baggage related to the issues of birth control and I can’t tell you how many posts I’ve typed and deleted b/c they would not have done anyone any good to post b/c they were too emotional, not b/c of any POV one way or the other. And I have posted a lot. At any rate a number of people have suggested a separate forum or sticky or something for NFP and it hasn’t been done probably b/c there are too many questions about it. But for people who want NFP discussions in a gentler atmosphere, there is a place called livingthesacrament.com it does not provide the same services as CAF but it provides supportive discussion. I think it does not allow theological or other challenge to the ideas. That makes it a place where people can get together. I’m not suggesting you leave CAF and this issue may go beyond NFP for you but there are places with different points of view that encourage discussion for people trying to live this, rather than debate, which I think is also good but can be draining.This is an interesting perspective to read for me. I recently came back here after many months (maybe a year?) away. I left for the opposite frustration to which you are experiencing. I felt like traditional Catholic views were constantly challenged and criticized here, and I got tired of the constant debate and acrimony. I didn’t like the things that came out of my keyboard at times, as well, when driven to the breaking point. I can just go over to CNN or Yahoo Answers if I want that kind of frustration. But I am here trying it again. Let’s see if we can make it! It can be fun.
First of all when one does not obey the Teachings of the Church, they are ultimately not obeying God.
Well. He will look at us whether we are repentant or not. If we have mortal sin that is unrepented or not. It is our choosing to live in mortal sin that sends us to Hell. Church teaching yet again. And 1ke did not say you were going to hell either in their post. You assumed that they did.
What would you call it? I mean this sincerely. There are those people and posters who believe or at least accept everything the Church teaches. This group has been tagged with the terms “faithful Catholics”, “authentic Catholics”, “Cathoics who follow the Magesterium”, etc.
Indeed. And if the Church were to teach that <random sexual activity that does not have its end in procreation/union> is okay, it would open the door for Cafeteria Catholics to say, “See! The Church cannot make up its mind! Either sex is only for procreation/union, or it’s not. And since they permit , then they really haven’t thought out their teaching very well. And this is proof that it’s man-made. And this gives me permission to disobey it.”
Thank you for this advice. I found the living the sacraments site, so I will check that out. It is just that there is so much opposition from other sources in the world, that sometimes I have more of a need to find like-minded individuals than to find more people with whom to argue.
Yes we are to be whole-ly without mortal sin…living in Christ. By his grace we are saved…so we must remain in that grace and not exit via mortal sin…we must remain in life.