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That is what I was thinking. So it’s a huge mortal sin to do a court wedding as such, I assume.
It could be. There is the concept of mocking the Church wedding, but I’m not certain that this always applies. In several countries in Europe, Church weddings are not recognized by the state, and so it is normal practice there to have the civil wedding first, and then hours, or days later, the Church wedding. During this intervening time, the couple is expected not to behave as a married couple since they are in fact not married.
 
That is what I was thinking. So it’s a huge mortal sin to do a court wedding as such, I assume.
The marriage must be with the approval of the Catholic Church for a Catholic, else it is not matrimony. So if they did not get a dispensation, then they are not in the bond of matrimony. (Excluding near death or desert island for a month, but must get married, scenario.)
 
I don’t know what you mean by “cause scandal” (I’ll be wearing a suit).

But you did write some good things to share with them.
Sadly, they’re not well-versed in catechism (their parents are and have had this talk with them before, to no avail). I actually think they might know about church validity, but are not concerned about it.

In any case, it’s a step up from cohabitation.
Like it or not, their use of a Catholic Chapel is a cop-out to salve guilty consciences. Your attitude towards this is more protestant than it is to standard Catholic teaching. Your participation in this in any capacity does cause scandal because of baptized Catholics participating in a non Catholic, secular travisty of a wedding ceremony. In short, by participating in it-even as an usher- you are condoning their committing a sin, and thus, you too are committing a sin. No good can come of this situation.
 
Latin scandalum, stumbling block

Since we are our brothers (sisters) keepers, by providing a bad example, we become stumbling blocks to the weak. What stumbling block we provide need not be a sin in itself either. In Corinthians is an example of eating meat offered to idols leading others to sin, although not a sin to us.

1 Corinthians 8

1 1 2 Now in regard to meat sacrificed to idols: we realize that “all of us have knowledge”; knowledge inflates with pride, but love builds up. 2 If anyone supposes he knows something, he does not yet know as he ought to know. 3 But if one loves God, one is known by him. 4 So about the eating of meat sacrificed to idols: we know that “there is no idol in the world,” and that “there is no God but one.” 5 Indeed, even though there are so-called gods in heaven and on earth (there are, to be sure, many “gods” and many “lords”), 6 3 yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom all things are and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and through whom we exist. 7 But not all have this knowledge. There are some who have been so used to idolatry up until now that, when they eat meat sacrificed to idols, their conscience, which is weak, is defiled. 8 4 Now food will not bring us closer to God. We are no worse off if we do not eat, nor are we better off if we do. 9 But make sure that this liberty of yours in no way becomes a stumbling block to the weak. 10 If someone sees you, with your knowledge, reclining at table in the temple of an idol, may not his conscience too, weak as it is, be “built up” to eat the meat sacrificed to idols? 11 Thus through your knowledge, the weak person is brought to destruction, the brother for whom Christ died. 12 When you sin in this way against your brothers and wound their consciences, weak as they are, you are sinning against Christ. 13 5 Therefore, if food causes my brother to sin, I will never eat meat again, so that I may not cause my brother to sin.
 
It is obvious that the couple does not know, or more likely, does not care, about the teachings of the Church regarding marriage. (I say that partially because we are told that they have Catholic parents who have reminded the couple about the matter.) They have been poorly catechized, as has the OP, who himself did not understand what the word *scandal *means in this context, or how it applies to his own participation. (He thought that it had to do with immodest dress, which is not surprising, since most Catholics today are not properly taught about what scandal is.) The fact that a Jesuit facility would allow an invalid marriage to ake place there is also scandalous.

“To observe the laws of the Church regarding marriage” is one iof the precepts of the Church. Simply put, it is that important. The rest is just rationalizing. Typical examples of rationalizing participation at an invalid attempt at marriage by Catholics:

–They are going to do it, anyway, whether I am there or not
–I want to keep the lines of communication open
–It is better than cohabitation
–They don’t know any better
–It will cause a family rift
–It’s not my place to be judgmental

Most justifications fall into at least one of these categories, the OP’s included, though I do believe that he is beginning to understand things on this subject that he had not previously. To him I would point out the following, all intended in charity:

You say that you believe “in the power of conversion, even if it takes years,” but apparently you will not say or do anything here and now that witesses to that end. It is OK if the couple somehow reconciles to the Church later, but you are not willing to have any role in that, in the present.

If the couple had a silly “themed wedding,” you would “conveniently be on vacation,” but apparently an obviously invalid wedding in and of itself does not similarly motivate you to be absent, if it is held at a Jesuit facility.

Clearly your conscience bothers you, or you would not be posting here, or considering checking on whether or not the Blessed Sacrament will be present. You should pay attention to that pang of conscience, as it is there for a reason. If what is planned is as you describe, it is wrong, pure and simple, and you are right to wonder about it.

We all have a tendency to exempt ourselves from witnessing to our faith, citing our “modern world,” as if living in the present age somehow means that we should not be called upon to stand up for what is right. We like to believe that because we live in a free and democratic society, one of industry and technology, that we are not expected to behave as if certain values really matter, as people did in times past. This is especially true for Americans, as we tend to believe that our society is innately good, and therefore specifcally Catholic witness will not be needed. Needless to say, this is all malarkey, and we are simply rationalizing our own inaction and silence. There has been hostility to the faith, and/or an unwillingness to stand up for the more socially inconvenient aspects of it, throughout the history of the Church. Our Lord Himself told us that the faith will not make us socially popular, including among family and friends. But in a media-driven, consumeristic age, we have numbed ourselves to anything that is even remotely unpleasant. We start rationalizing the path of least resistance by citing one or more of the above. We even cloak it in rightousness, by saying that we are trying to be authentically Christian by being “non-judgmental” and are “leaving the door open.” How pious we moderns can sound when we are wimping out.

What we do not like to acknowledge is that others know we are Catholic and they see and hear us. They may be atheists, non-Christians, Protestant Christians, or lukewarm Catholics, but they observe what the known Catholics (including the not-so-practicing ones) say and do. They may or may not speak aloud about what they observe, but they do notice, and it informs their perspective as to the Catholic Church. We have all heard the more verbal of these observers say at least one of the following, about something, marriage-related or not:

–It must be OK, if So-and-So did it, since So-and-So is a Catholic
–I don’t think that So-and-So would ever knowingly do something against the faith
–How bad can it be, since even So-and-So does it?
–Look at all of the Catholics who do that. The Church must have changed its teaching
–Look at all of the Catholics who do that. The Church must be wrong in its teaching

The latter is particularly scandlous. Some of the people who say these things are openly hostile to the faith and are looking for more ammunition against it. Others are simply unsure, and may even be considering the Catholic faith, so they evaluate things morally from the perspective of clarity and consistency, through which they hope to see stated beliefs lived out, not only talked about…

Finally, it is daunting to know that others may look to us for moral and religious witness, but they do. We do not like to think that we–ordinary, average, everyday Catholic guys and gals–not clergy, or well-known Catholic figures, can be influential in any way. But the reality is that God gives each of us a role to play, and when it is our turn to witness, we must be up to the task, because, we will ourselves be judged, and that judgment will include what we said and did as Catholics, every bit as much as whether or not we spoke against political or social injustice, supported the right causes, etc. We don’t like to think these small things will matter, but they are actually quite significant, because they define our willingness to live a truly Catholic life. We are not seeking to punish couples and proclaim our own righteousness; on the contrary, we are simply trying to share with them the message that someone shared (or should have shared) with us along our journey as Catholics.
 
It is obvious that the couple does not know, or more likely, does not care, about the teachings of the Church regarding marriage. (I say that partially because we are told that they have Catholic parents who have reminded the couple about the matter.) They have been poorly catechized, as has the OP, who himself did not understand what the word *scandal *means in this context, or how it applies to his own participation. (He thought that it had to do with immodest dress, which is not surprising, since most Catholics today are not properly taught about what scandal is.) The fact that a Jesuit facility would allow an invalid marriage to ake place there is also scandalous.

“To observe the laws of the Church regarding marriage” is one iof the precepts of the Church. Simply put, it is that important. The rest is just rationalizing. Typical examples of rationalizing participation at an invalid attempt at marriage by Catholics:

–They are going to do it, anyway, whether I am there or not
–I want to keep the lines of communication open
–It is better than cohabitation
–They don’t know any better
–It will cause a family rift
–It’s not my place to be judgmental

Most justifications fall into at least one of these categories, the OP’s included, though I do believe that he is beginning to understand things on this subject that he had not previously. To him I would point out the following, all intended in charity:

You say that you believe “in the power of conversion, even if it takes years,” but apparently you will not say or do anything here and now that witesses to that end. It is OK if the couple somehow reconciles to the Church later, but you are not willing to have any role in that, in the present.

If the couple had a silly “themed wedding,” you would “conveniently be on vacation,” but apparently an obviously invalid wedding in and of itself does not similarly motivate you to be absent, if it is held at a Jesuit facility.

Clearly your conscience bothers you, or you would not be posting here, or considering checking on whether or not the Blessed Sacrament will be present. You should pay attention to that pang of conscience, as it is there for a reason. If what is planned is as you describe, it is wrong, pure and simple, and you are right to wonder about it.

We all have a tendency to exempt ourselves from witnessing to our faith, citing our “modern world,” as if living in the present age somehow means that we should not be called upon to stand up for what is right. We like to believe that because we live in a free and democratic society, one of industry and technology, that we are not expected to behave as if certain values really matter, as people did in times past. This is especially true for Americans, as we tend to believe that our society is innately good, and therefore specifcally Catholic witness will not be needed. Needless to say, this is all malarkey, and we are simply rationalizing our own inaction and silence. There has been hostility to the faith, and/or an unwillingness to stand up for the more socially inconvenient aspects of it, throughout the history of the Church. Our Lord Himself told us that the faith will not make us socially popular, including among family and friends. But in a media-driven, consumeristic age, we have numbed ourselves to anything that is even remotely unpleasant. We start rationalizing the path of least resistance by citing one or more of the above. We even cloak it in rightousness, by saying that we are trying to be authentically Christian by being “non-judgmental” and are “leaving the door open.” How pious we moderns can sound when we are wimping out.

What we do not like to acknowledge is that others know we are Catholic and they see and hear us. They may be atheists, non-Christians, Protestant Christians, or lukewarm Catholics, but they observe what the known Catholics (including the not-so-practicing ones) say and do. They may or may not speak aloud about what they observe, but they do notice, and it informs their perspective as to the Catholic Church. We have all heard the more verbal of these observers say at least one of the following, about something, marriage-related or not:

–It must be OK, if So-and-So did it, since So-and-So is a Catholic
–I don’t think that So-and-So would ever knowingly do something against the faith
–How bad can it be, since even So-and-So does it?
–Look at all of the Catholics who do that. The Church must have changed its teaching
–Look at all of the Catholics who do that. The Church must be wrong in its teaching

The latter is particularly scandlous. Some of the people who say these things are openly hostile to the faith and are looking for more ammunition against it. Others are simply unsure, and may even be considering the Catholic faith, so they evaluate things morally from the perspective of clarity and consistency, through which they hope to see stated beliefs lived out, not only talked about…
The site did not allow me to quote your whole post, but this is an awesome post. 👍
 
Churches that don’t let people leave without cutting of contact with them for important events are cults. It is not the fault of the couple getting married that a Catholic organisation will let them use their facilities. If someone should ask you your view on the validity of their marriage in the eyes of the Church, tell them. If it does not arise in conversation, don’t. Live in a pluralist society in which people are free and act accordingly. Be happy for the progress your friends are making in their relationship. support them.
 
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