still reciting the old translatiion - obnoxiously loud at mass

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I still find myself accidentally blurting out, “It is right to give Him thanks…uhh and just!”
 
Layp3rs0n said:
I still find myself accidentally blurting out, “It is right to give Him thanks…uhh and just!”
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Everybody messes up now and then, even the priests, but you can tell when someone is being loud and obnoxious. They show no sign at all of trying to use the correct words, whereas, the person who has messed up will catch themselves- stop and attempt to use the correct translation.
 
Sometimes, even with the card in front of me I can get the words wrong. Particularly during the Creed.
 
Eric_Olsen said:
was at [edited] in Norristown PA. at the 5:30pm mass yesterday. There was a woman with her husband a couple of rows back who kept reciting the old translation, being loud about it to the point it almost drowned out the people around me.

Does anyone else experience imature people like this?
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I would probably catch up to her after Mass and say something snarky like, “First time you’ve been to Church since last summer? Here is a pew card for you!” 😃

And then have to go to confession.
 
TheRealJuliane said:
I would probably catch up to her after Mass and say something snarky like, “First time you’ve been to Church since last summer? Here is a pew card for you!” 😃

And then have to go to confession.
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Especially after finding out that they attend the Polish or Spanish Masses most of the time. 🙂
 
I think of people like this when I start ranting about one thing or another.

It’s Mass, for goodness sakes!

And, my wife and I are in our fifties and we remember the first English translation where the response to “the Lord be with you”. was “And with your spirit”.
 
JRKH said:
Welcome to a “replay” of the 60’s…

What you experienced is a small form and example of the same sort of thing that happened way back when when the mass switched from Latin to English…It was hard on older Catholics and some resisted it rather vocally…

Of course this change is quite a bit less profound, but still you have witnessed the profound difficulty some people have with change.

Peace
James
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Seventeen posts later, someone hits the nail right on the head. People resist change. It’s human nature, it pushes folks outside their comfort zone.

At the abbey I’m affiliated with, occasionally the choirmaster switches antiphons (where a choice is allowed), modifies the melody slightly or changes the finale of the psalm tone because that’s the way it was in some ancient text. It throws me off and I’ve only been attached to them for 10 years. For a monk praying it the same way for 40 years it’s even harder.

We need to be tolerant of others foibles. As I think Jean Vanier said, if nobody is driving you crazy in a community you can be sure you are driving someone crazy 😉

This past Sunday a guy behind me was chanting the correct responses but way off key and off time. Drove me bananas, but c’est la vie!
 
The people that do this probably just don’t understand WHY the changes were made, so they resent them. If they knew why, they would understand.
 
I still keep going back to the old way. Out of habit and I feel frustrated that I am nott adjusing well. But I have never been loud.

What is a pew card? Our pews don’t have racks for anything.
 
Eric_Olsen said:
was at [edited] in Norristown PA. at the 5:30pm mass yesterday. There was a woman with her husband a couple of rows back who kept reciting the old translation, being loud about it to the point it almost drowned out the people around me.

Does anyone else experience immature people like this?
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Are you much more mature than those people? What is the good of bringing up on CAF such a topic in such manner?

I was one of those people this weekend. I just recited the Creed out lout the way I usually do, the problem is that I recited the old version without realizing it. Do I feel bad about it? Not at all, I had my senior moment so what? If people around me were bothered by that it is their problem and not mine. However, I doubt that they were annoyed because we always worship together, we care about each other and probably they realized that there was something wrong with me. I doubt that they would spend time here on CAF talking about me.
 
Get in the pew behind her and say the Latin responses even louder.
 
GCTSgrad said:
At mass yesterday, the priest used the old form at some points. He is retired and I think he was saying it from memory. I rather doubt that he would obstinately refuse to change.
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There is a church in my town where the priest has actually refused to implement the new translation, a friend sometimes goes to Mass there and he says the priest is using the previous translation 100%. And I’ve heard one or two priests saying that the new translation is optional. :eek:
 
Cristiano said:
What is the good of bringing up on CAF such a topic in such manner?
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Excellent response. The OP should simply start sitting in a different section of the church. The couple in question may be forgetful, hard of hearing, having a bad day, or indeed protesters. It doesn’t matter.

Praying for them will do much more good than saying anything or getting all worked up.
 
ssa_trad_cath said:
There is a church in my town where the priest has actually refused to implement the new translation, a friend sometimes goes to Mass there and he says the priest is using the previous translation 100%. And I’ve heard one or two priests saying that the new translation is optional. :eek:
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What you are presenting here is an open case of disobedience. The priest made a promise to the bishop and his successors at ordination. A priest saying that the new translation is optional is either ignorant or he is spreading falsities.
 
Mrs_Sally said:
Excellent response. The OP should simply start sitting in a different section of the church. The couple in question may be forgetful, hard of hearing, having a bad day, or indeed protesters. It doesn’t matter.

Praying for them will do much more good than saying anything or getting all worked up.
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I am in my early 50’s and I am a fervent supporter of the new translation. I have been quite active in its implementation among the youth in my parish; however, I understand how people might still make mistakes and so when someone goes with the old translation I rather give them the benefit of the doubt. However, if they state that it is done intentionally to go against the new translation then I jump on my soap box but only if we are discussing that outside Mass.
 
Eric_Olsen said:
was at [edited] in Norristown PA. at the 5:30pm mass yesterday. There was a woman with her husband a couple of rows back who kept reciting the old translation, being loud about it to the point it almost drowned out the people around me.

Does anyone else experience imature people like this?
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Sure. One guy loudly adds words to the Lord’s Prayer. “Lord PLEASE give us this day” and “Lord PLEASE forgive is our trespasses” all to call attention to himself. I have asked nicely and he continues.

Another guy loudly “adds” ejaculatory prayers during the Mass, again to bring attention to himself. Then of course there are the sexists who try to change “Him” to “God” any chance they can. I find it difficult because it is done loudly and obnoxiously. It’s hard to ignore because what the screw-up is precisely what we are all supposed to be focused on.

Once again though, if my pastor wasn’t apathetic about such things, it wouldn’t happen.
 
Mrs_Sally said:
Excellent response. The OP should simply start sitting in a different section of the church. The couple in question may be forgetful, hard of hearing, having a bad day, or indeed protesters. It doesn’t matter.

Praying for them will do much more good than saying anything or getting all worked up.
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:rotfl:

The people who change or add to the Mass at my parish do so LOUDLY. It’s all about bringing attention to themselves after all. If we had a crying room, I might find relief there but we do not so we all suffer.
 
Ladygem said:
oh dear, the good thing is that there are a lot of parishes in the area, so if this is a constant problem, you can look elsewhere. I’m a member of St. Helena’s in Blue Bell myself, and I’ve never had this problem at any of the masses I’ve attended. (usually 11, but sometimes Saturday at 5). The pew cards at St. Helena’s are in something like size 20 font, which could help with the reading factor. Your location says Plymouth Meeting, have you tried Epiphany? It might be closer, and the parishioners there are usually pretty good.
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I dont normally go to St Francis unless I cant make mass in the morning.
Its the first time I encountered people doing this.
 
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