I am so glad this is being discussed. I think it is really important to think about and pray for these martyrs, so we can fully appreciate our faith, and not take it for granted. Reading about this, makes me so sad, but so grateful at the same time that in this country we are able to go and receive Jesus in communion every day. What a privilage we have, one that I think I need to use more often…
Hopefully this isn’t too off topic, but this also reminds me of the messages given in the Fatima apparition.
The warning the Virgin Mary gave us in 1917… If my requests are granted, Russia will be converted and there will be peace (mentioning Russia specifically and all the bishops being there did not ever happen like how Mary had asked for it to).
You really think that when Mary said that the conversion of Russia meant literally the conversion of an entire nation? Misgiuded your faith is. The conversion of Russia has to do with inner conversion of hearts, not the conversion of an entire nation. I have feeling that you have a misunderstanding of Fatima. Not everyone will accept the message of repentance you know. If you say Russia wasn’t consecrated, then why did communism fall and dismantled in 1991? How do you answer to that?
If not…the good will be martyred (perhaps what we are discussing about in this thread right now), the Holy Father will have much to suffer ( That very well could easily refer to the suffering that Pope John Paul II had to go through in his last years), various nations will be annihilated (hopefully that will not happen, but no one knows the future but God, we can only receive His Grace by following His ways, heeding His messages). Infinately more important, souls will be lost in Hell for eternity if the message of Fatima is ignored because Our Lady of Fatima made it clear that true obedience to Her message will result in the salvation of many souls.
This might seem a little naive or unrealistic, but I’m seriously wondering… What can we do to try to get the Pope to do the consecration on Russia the way it was asked to be done by Mary?
I remember a story of how a women in a parish, this church did the latin mass by the way, tried to get people to sign a petition asking the late John Paul II to consecrate Russia. When one woman refused, the one issuing the petition tried to bully and sucker her and then called her a “liberal.” Stay away from people who, with the installation of the latin mass, to try to spread their fingery ideas on you.
What would it hurt to have it done this way? I know there are a lot of politics around the whole thing, but seriously 2 of the three warnings she gave us that would happen if Russia was not consecrated to her immaculate heart have already happened or are currently taking place…Do we really want to wait around to see if the final one will happen before we act? Does anyone else feel the same?
