Struggling with Church teaching on contraception

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I’m having some major difficulties accepting Church teaching on contraception and I was wondering if anyone can help me out.

First of all, I want to make it clear that I’m in complete agreement with Church teaching on the immorality of the pill and other hormonal methods of contraception, because these methods are abortifacient (and therefore not really contraceptives). However, I do question Church teaching on condoms and other non-abortifacient methods of contraception.

I have been married for a little over three years, and we have always used NFP in accordance with Church teaching. I have cycles that range from 40 days to 90 days, and my fertility signs are confusing. I’ve already had one unplanned pregnancy. I am terrified of another, because right now is a very bad time for us to have another child, mostly because of financial reasons (we both work full-time out of necessity) and because my husband is still in grad school. Our daughter is two years old and is a wonderful, delightful child and a huge blessing – but we aren’t ready for another by any stretch of the imagination.

I will concede that we have been able to successfully avoid pregnancy for the past two years, partly because of breastfeeding infertility that lasted for about a year and partly because the vitamin A from eating carrot sticks every day has made my fertile time more obvious. But we’ve still had long periods of abstinence (not while I was breastfeeding - it’s like this all the time) because of confusing signs. So while I have been able to correctly identify the fertile time for the past two years, I’ve also had many, many “false fertile times” when I thought I was fertile and I wasn’t. I recently had more than 3 weeks of very stretchy mucus, and my temperature never went up. I had to induce my period that time with Provera. That’s the only time so far I’ve done that – despite my long cycles, I always ovulate (at least in all the other cycles I’ve charted) because my temperature always goes up. I got pregnant 3 months after I got married without even trying.

Basically my question is – what does a couple do if NFP doesn’t work for them? I have very confusing mucus and have already had one “surprise.” Fortunately I think I’ve got NFP figured out, at least somewhat, though I still have many, many days when I honestly have no idea if I’m fertile or not. Most of the time we just take chances those days, because most of the time it’s rather unlikely I’m fertile since I have such long cycles. If we abstained every time we weren’t 100% sure I was infertile we would be abstaining 90% of the time. Other times, if the mucus is more stretchy, we end up abstaining for long periods of time when we didn’t have to.

I’m actually going to an NFP-only Dr. right now who thinks I have PCOS, which would explain a lot of the difficulties I’m having with NFP. I’m still waiting to go to a follow-up to find out what I can do about my cycles. But what if someone tried everything – medical interventions, nutritional solutions, etc. – and still couldn’t figure out when they’re fertile and when they’re not? Some people have confusing mucus signs and confusing temperature signs. Fortunately for me my temperature at least is fairly clear.

For that matter, what did people do when they had to rely on the rhythm method? For me, the rhythm method is completely and utterly useless. With my cycles, NFP is hard enough. The rhythm method would be impossible. It seems unreasonable to me to force people to rely on methods that are so unreliable. I know NFP works very well for many people, perhaps most people. But the Church seems to take it for granted that NFP is always 98% effective, not taking into account that every woman’s body is different. I honestly don’t know what I would do if I had to use the rhythm method. The only options then would be possibly having more children then I could handle or complete abstinence. Isn’t having more children than you can handle actually a sin, because you’re not using the virtue of prudence? And wouldn’t complete abstinence be very harmful to a marriage, and therefore also a sin? Yet these are the only options for some people who can’t use NFP because of cycle problems, and they would have been the only options for many people when all we had was the rhythm method, or before people even knew about the rhythm method.

I would not mind abstaining for 10 days a month if I could easily tell when I’m fertile. If every woman could easily tell, I could accept this teaching. I agree with CCL that periodic abstinence can be good for a marriage, but they neglect to mention that too much abstinence is harmful to a marriage. Yet many couples will need to abstain for unreasonable lengths of time to make sure they avoid pregnancy.

The only reason I use NFP is fear of hell. I continue to use it, even though I question the teaching, because when the Church says something is a mortal sin I take that very seriously. I’m tired of long periods of abstinence because of confusing signs and I’m tired of constantly worrying about pregnancy. Sometimes my temperature will be up for a day or two for some reason other than ovulation and I’ll be having an anxiety attack the whole time thinking I might have ovulated and may have gotten pregnant. However, it’s not worth playing Russian roulette with my soul, so I continue to use it. Better stress and anxiety in this life than hellfire in the next.

Can someone please help me out here? I’ve read a ton of stuff about Church teaching on contraception, but I’ve never seen it addressed what couples are supposed to do when NFP simply doesn’t work (or what they should have done when the only option was the rhythm method), because everyone seems to assume it works equally well for everyone. I do think it’s possible the Church may be wrong on this issue, but I’ve been praying that God will show me the answer, whether I like it or not. Thanks, and thanks for reading my long post.
 
I am not a DR and do not pretend to be one either!! However, my wife and I are also kinda scared about NFP and have been basically doing the rhythm method for awhile. Well, after our third child we REALLY do not want anymore, at least right now, though we LOVE the ones we have. So…my wife’s dr (who is Mormon and does not believe in artificial contraception either) gave us a suggestion. There is a watch called the OV watch that you can wear at night while you’re sleeping that tells you when you are in your fertile period (www.ovwatch.com)). The web site says that the watch is not intended for use as a contraceptive device, but her doctor says that it really works, will tell you the days when you’re fertile, and he suggested adding 2 days of abstinence on to the beginning and end as a safety buffer, and that should work. I suggest you check out the website, then ASK YOUR DOCTOR about it. I don’t know if it will work with your particular situation or not, but it may be worth looking into. Or your dr may say it’s not a good idea, who knows. Hope that helps.

Chris
 
sdeco:

If it helps, realize than many couple are on a much stricter diet than 10 days of abstinence a month. Some are using the strict NFP rules allowing for relations on 5 - 7 days per month. Some are abstaining for years for various reasons.

Is your husband “part of the program”, or is resentful of NFP? Does he understand the positive spiritual aspects of self-denial?

Are there more practical steps you two can take make abstinence more palatable? Seperate sleeping rooms, involvement with sports, overtime to be had a work, keeping “the goods” out of your husband’s eyesight, etc?

There also are some great resources on the web to help with irregular cycles.
 
One solution might be simply to abstain until such time as your financial situation becomes more stable.

Also, try to keep in mind (and I know that this is very challenging - it involves a lot of trust and faith) that God is absolutely never going to create anyone by accident.

If God sends you a child, it will be on purpose, and for the benefit of both you and the child.
 
sdeco:

If it helps, realize than many couple are on a much stricter diet than 10 days of abstinence a month. Some are using the strict NFP rules allowing for relations on 5 - 7 days per month. Some are abstaining for years for various reasons.
This is the word that not many Catholic couples realize or are talking about as normal course of sexual intimacy during phases of marriage/family life amongst faithful Catholics. The voice of those who dissent seem to be the louder ones.
Is your husband “part of the program”, or is resentful of NFP? Does he understand the positive spiritual aspects of self-denial?
An essential component to peaceful, mature embracing of Church teaching.

BTW sdeco, I find your foundation and ready reference to a holy fear of God refreshing. By the grace of God it will move more toward a more confident and familial knowledge, love and fear of offending God. One needs to remain prayerful and connected with likeminded believers so as to avoid the pitfuls of discouragement and become vulnerable to failings and sin rationalizations during those long, dry and weary stretches of one’s Catholic marriage vocation.
 
I think you’re having such a hard time because you’ve lost sight of the purpose of sex. The purpose of sex is to create babies. That’s what sex is for, that’s what it does.

The pleasurable feelings we get from sex are a by-product, not the purpose. The intimacy we experience with our spouse through the sex act is one of many ways we can and do experience intimacy with our spouse, but it is not the purpose of sex.

What the church teaches is that if you really have a serious reason not to have a child, it is ok to abstain from sex-- because the purpose of sex is babies.

You assume the Church teaches NFP is an alternative to contraception. This is false. NFP is an alternative to *complete *abstinence.

NFP is very reliable in cases where there is a serious reason to avoid a pregnancy, and you can try different methods which may suit you better (such as Creighton or Marquette).

But, to answer your question-- yes, abstaining completely is the alternative to NFP.
 
A very interesting thread. I was certainly where the OP was as well at one point. Although I am the husband in the family - for a time I didn’t trust NFP to “work” properly - but found that what worked for me was to really look at the church’s teaching.

I recommend “Theology Of The Body For Beginners” by Christopher West. This book helps explain the Church’s teaching on sexuality.

We went from using NFP to ditching it entirely. No, we aren’t independently wealthy - and we do have hectic schedules - but in the end the poster who said “God doesn’t create mistakes” (I’m paraphrasing - sorry) was right on. I never, in my wildest dreams throught I’d be the “Dad Of 11” - but I am - only God knows if there will be more - and with prayer and trust in God - things have worked out marvelously.

I know the pressures and hassles that money problems can bring - but I can only say that abandoning your will to that of the Father’s in Heaven helps make everything right.

YES - there are still times we abstain - but as another poster said - if you REALLY, REALLY aren’t sure - and if you REALLY, REALLY don’t think you can have another child - abstaining is the solution. There is no other. Trusting in the wisdom of God helps to get through the rough spots where this is concerned. Trite - but true - at least my wife and I have found it so!!!
 
Although I don’t have to worry about this issue yet since I am not married, I must admit that if I do get married I will question this as well. I read the Eastern Orthodox’ opinon on why condom use is alright in the Eastern Christianity forum and they have a really good argument. All I can say is do what your conscious says.
 
sdeco,
Welcome to the forums! That was one heck of a great first post!

Prayer. That is what our great-grandparents did with the rhythm method. The faithful ones were not praying, “I hope this doesn’t get me pregnant!”

The faithful ones were asking God to guide all things in their lives. They were asking God to bring them together in the marital union when HE wanted them to be together. They were praying for the resources and generosity to care for all the children God wanted for them. (At least that was what my great-grandmother and her daily rosary taught me. Too bad I didn’t understand it until her intercessory prayers after her death!)

I sympathize. I too have a 2 year old and serious reason to abstain. I also have long cycles and my temperature is also my most reliable sign. Please remember that charting is your greatest ally in getting your health fixed. The provera just makes you bleed.

Get thee to flax oil pills! They will help your cervical fluid the rest of the month. Check that cervix every day that you are not menstruating. Get a really good idea of its changing height, even if you have to make a “height chart” (PM for more on that one!) If your BBTs are low get on kelp supplements. Long cycles mean your body is trying to ovulate but can’t get enough estrogen to release an egg. Thyroid problems lead to low estrogen storage. Kelp is your friend!

I am not a doctor either and I don’t play one on TV. I just was brought to the beautiful gift of the meaning of the body through my horrible female troubles. The Lord works in mysterious ways!

Pope John Paul The Great didn’t call it ‘Theology of the Body’ for nothin’!! Eros reunited with agape! Go Christopher West!
 
I used to be very critical of the Church stance on contraception. I understood and respected her arguments on abortifacients, but barrier methods and withdrawal just seemed rather arbitrary, and didn’t seem to have any moral basis.

After many trials and tribulations, I have gone through some amazing spiritual growth and have become so sensitive that even the slighest breach of kindness, gentleness, and other fruits of the spirits, stick out at me like a sore thumb.

This is the first time I wrote about it, but the other day I noticed there are many things that follow the pattern of contraception, and it is startling and upsetting, and serves to interfere with the gentle flow of perfectly gentle and loving communications.

Without necessarily joining the debate to the church teachings on contraception in the biological way, (I assure you in the past I have done so with zeal) I want to opine on what I finally, finally, began to realize is the true “contraceptive mentality” or at least it seems like it as far as I’m concerned, and it goes far beyond whether a couple is open for making babies.

When a person is talking and I’m just waiting for them to finish what they are saying so that I can politely leave, that is a contraceptive act. The other person thought they were sharing a message, no doubt from the heart, and if I was just pretending to listen with my own heart closed to real hearing, then I have not only prevented the communication, I have lied to the other about it. Their may be no apparent damage, but it was rude.

When I am writing a post on Catholic Answers and someone interrupts me and I ask for five more minutes, sometimes it actually takes 10 or more, and even though it isn’t critical they might come nag me and get insistent, often just when I’m about done and proofreading. I get frustrated, knowing there are others waiting for me, and it results in my posting something in haste to finish so that I don’t “waste” the time I had spent, but end up saying something awkward that then fails to make the point. That type of post is a walking contraception which often stirs up discord unnecessarily. In essence, my own frustration at not completing the post translates into a post which itself carries a seed of frustration and even anger – though it may be well hidden, so many sensitive souls see it that they know something in the post isn’t right, and it negates the credibility of as much as the whole article, deep inside the heart of the reader.

When my kids want to read me a story they are working on or tell me about something that happened in school, and I am very busy so I ask them to wait – and then of course I don’t get back to them, I have contracepted their love offerings of their time and happiness and conversation and preventing them from either delivering it or my receiving it. Everyone loses.

When someone speaks to me and I have a predetermined bias against what they are saying because I don’t trust or respect them, then I have put up a shield between us which prevents honest communications. We can talk, and maybe even reach a mutually agreeable “solution,” but the talk cannot be as fruitful as if I had listened with a truly open heart. We have practiced contraceptive communications. (By the way I’m not saying that’s bad – there are many fools out there and it takes faith, trust, and maybe practice to learn listen without shields and still trust the Holy Spirit not become “seeded” with heresy and/or stupidity.)
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Finally, I learned a really big one the other day, and it helps me relate better to the complexity of the errors of pride as described in the Dark Night of the Soul. That is, when somebody thanks me for doing something, and I say, “oh it was really nothing,” then it sounds like I am being humble and maybe I truly have a humble and serving heart, but with that word choice it actually has several very evil effects that could negate – if not worse – the positive effects of humility. Why? Because this first off tells the person that I think they are so stupid that what they think is a big enough deal to thank me for, really isn’t. Further, they are probably just trying to express thanks and praise, like the one leper who returned to Jesus, and I have refused to accept that thanks in essence contracepted their act of love and stewardship to show thanks for their gifts. Now, if I say, “I didn’t do anything; it was the Lord working through me,” then that’s even trickier because it does everything the last example does, but it does so with piety that makes it even more confusing. The person thanking may or may not know about God, and they were helped and it came through me and it is me they want to thank. Instead, I thwart their efforts and stand before them, refusing the gift of thanks they have offered me. That is not only contraceptive, it is deception. Now you might protest, “but we are no to boast except for the love of the Lord.” Well, that’s a good point but it isn’t about boasting, it’s about learning to accept a gift of love from another person without messing it up so that it loses the power for either the giver or myself. I might say, “well then what can I say that does not boast?” Maybe something like “you are very welcome; I’m glad I could be here for you,” and then I have now completely accepted their song of joy and thanks they have performed for me, and completed the social transaction without contracepting it in any way. Sure others may have done the same thing in the same situation, but gosh darn it I know when I thank somebody, I want them to at least ACT like they appreciate my thanks if for no other reason than to humor me… (still a lie but at least it gives me hope that they will stay thanked a while) If that is uncomfortable one can assign credit to God without contracepting the love gift, by saying something like, “you are so welcome. The Lord is good to allow me to help you.” That’s like accepting their thanks, and then showing them it is important enough to you that you let them know you plan to take that thanks to you bank of eternal treasures and let God help with them.

Now, back to physical contraception, I speak only theoretically here. Forgetting about the pregnancy chances for a minute (after all if it was about reducing chance of pregnancy of a sex act then NFP would never be licit) consider that having sexual relations with contraceptive can soothe the mind and body in a very real way, and to the average person maybe just as convincing as if they had not used contraceptives. They still feel the sexual release, and they may go on for years as happy as they want to be. At some deep, deep, level, though, they have specifically taken a step which does interfere with a component – an undesired component to be sure – of the natural act. Thus, it is really a step up from masturbation, because at least they’re working together on it, and they may in agreement on it. It falls short, though, of completely openness not just because of the pregnancy, but because you took one act with the intent of reducing the natural impact of another.

Alan
 
You’re getting there Alan! May I suggest John Martignoni’s talk on Marriage and the Eucharist? biblechristiansociety.com/download/mp3/marriage_and_the_eucharist.mp3

He expands this thought further and asks “What if Jesus had contracepted on the cross?” Then there is his line that always gives me a chuckle, “The next time a non-Catholic asks why they cannot receive communion in the Catholic Church, just tell them, ‘because we don’t believe in sex outside of marriage!’”

Don’t worry, he explains it well. The download is free but support him if you can.
 
Although I don’t have to worry about this issue yet since I am not married, I must admit that if I do get married I will question this as well. I read the Eastern Orthodox’ opinon on why condom use is alright in the Eastern Christianity forum and they have a really good argument. All I can say is do what your conscious says.
Relying on your conscious is OK to a point - but it must be a well-formed conscious. Many people who are “pro abortion” say they are “only following their conscious”. (I think we may be misspelling that word - but I have no idea what the right way is 😃 ).

Regardless - reading the Eastern Orthodox position may be a start - but it can’t be the end. If you are a Catholic - you have to read the catholic documents…like Theology Of The Body - even if it is the “for beginners” book mentioned below 🙂
 
Basically my question is – what does a couple do if NFP doesn’t work for them?

My advice? Well if it isn’t working for me then maybe I don’t understand it properly or maybe I need to understand it on a deeper level. maybe too I need to study it further.

Don’t look on periods of abstinence as a bad thing. They are a wonderful thing difficult as it may be.

Don’t confuse bad with difficult and certainly don’t confuse ‘not working’ with lack of patience or lack of information.

Don’t confuse quitting with the desire to do things ‘my own way’.

Don’t confuse non acceptance with the desire not to know more.

As with all things taught by Holy Mother Church, Jesus did not say they would be easy. He said they would be worth it.

So, chin up. Refocus, pray and ask Our Blessed Lady, the purest of creatures, to obtain for you the graces you so desire and need at this moment in time.

Trust in God and entrust your life and the lives of your families to the Immaculate Heart of Mary each and every day.
 
Relying on your conscious is OK to a point - but it must be a well-formed conscious. Many people who are “pro abortion” say they are “only following their conscious”. (I think we may be misspelling that word - but I have no idea what the right way is 😃 ).
Since you asked - the proper spelling is “conscience.”

“Conscious” refers to being awake; it’s an adjective, not a noun. A person can “be concious” (be awake) but they can’t “have a conscious.”

We “have a conscience” (an inner understanding of right and wrong) but we can’t “be conscience.” Except for Jiminy Crickett, perhaps.
😉

I have a different kind of trouble with these two words - I am continually forgetting the “s” in the “sc” combination, so you’ll often see me spelling it “concience” instead of “conscience.” 😛
 
I have a different kind of trouble with these two words - I am continually forgetting the “s” in the “sc” combination, so you’ll often see me spelling it “concience” instead of “conscience.” 😛
I remind myself that the word “science” is what follows the first syllable, and I don’t have any trouble spelling it then.

Betsy
 
We were successful with NFP until my third child was born. After that all my signals went out the window. My temperature was no longer reliable and my other signs were just as messed up. We eventually turned to a digital monitor called “ClearBlue Easy”. You punch in the first day of your period and then every day you turn on the machine and one day it will ask you for a urine sample. You pee on a stick first thing in the morning and then insert it into the machine. It will tell you whether you are fertile or not or somewhere in between. After doing this for a few months, it will start to pick up your cycle and even tell you when your period should be due. We used it onth month and when it said I was fertile, we were intimate and sure enough I became pregnant. It costs about $250 for the monitor and then about $40/month for the testing sticks. It’s not cheap but it seems to be one answer for those of us who need it. There are other monitors out there. If you do a search on this forum you’ll find past posts where people have listed the websites of the places selling the fertility monitors.
 
Relying on your conscious is OK to a point - but it must be a well-formed conscious. Many people who are “pro abortion” say they are “only following their conscious”. (I think we may be misspelling that word - but I have no idea what the right way is 😃 ).

Regardless - reading the Eastern Orthodox position may be a start - but it can’t be the end. If you are a Catholic - you have to read the catholic documents…like Theology Of The Body - even if it is the “for beginners” book mentioned below 🙂
Looking at that word I just realized how to spell it by remembering the movie As Good as it Gets when Helen Hunt is trying to spell it and says con science, that doesn’t make any sense. However, it is spelled conscience and I agree, that is a really weird way to spell a word. Oh, I really don’t even know why I care since I won’t have to deal with this issue for a while but if my opinon does matter now, the one thing I don’t understand is if condoms can break then they are still open to life and in fact, I have heard that condom use has a higher fail rate than natural family planning when the nfp is done correctly.
 
Aside from the NFP strategies. Is hubby is school full time? If so, he should be close to be getting out by the time a baby would be expected. If not, he might have to go to school part-time and work part-time and Mom may have to work full-time until Dad gets out of school. Also, aside from daycare, how much more will one baby cost to a year or two?

I think at this point, the OP can make modifications in the current situation to accomodate another child if God is willing to bless them with one. While I sympathize with the gravity she feels this situation carries, it’s not so bad that the only answer is to go against Church teaching. No one died from lack of sex (if all else fails).

Thought to self: OP’s one and only post started a thread. Will she come back?
 
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