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‘He told me you might as well write about the Easter Bunny’

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Student gets F grade
for mentioning God

Posted: June 30, 2005
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A college in southern California is now investigating the case of a student who says she was given an F for mentioning “God” against the expressed wishes of her atheist instructor.

Bethany Hauf, a freshman at Victor Valley Community College near San Bernadino, wrote the G-word 41 times in a paper titled “In God We Trust,” examining the role of religion in government.

She included “God” despite being told not to by adjunct English instructor Michael Shefchik.

“He said it would offend others in class,” Hauf, 34, told the Daily Press. “I didn’t realize God was taboo.”

The mother of four from Apple Valley, Calif., is now demanding an apology from the school, as well as a regrading of her 10-page report.

“I don’t lose my First Amendment rights when I walk into that college,” she said.

“We are very serious about this situation,” VVC spokesman Bill Greulich told WorldNetDaily. “You have two rights in conflict – the right to believe in what you believe in, and academic freedom. We’re going to take steps that are appropriate. We don’t have all the facts yet.”

Greulich says Hauf began the process to challenge her grade by meeting with the department chair, but did not continue up the chain of command in her recourse. He says she could still do that, appealing to the vice president, superintendent and president of the school.

Meanwhile, Hauf has contacted the American Center for Law & Justice, which sent a letter to Patricia Spencer, president of VVC.

Jay Sekulow, chief counsel for the ACLJ recounted in the letter what Shefchik wrote to Bethany when she was getting approval for her subject matter:

“I have one limiting factor – no mention of big ‘G’ gods, i.e., one, true god argumentation,” Shefchik stated.

“He told me you might as well write about the Easter Bunny,” Hauf told the Daily Press. “He wanted to censor the word God.”

Shefchik has not been reached for comment, but Judy Solis, chair of the English department, says Hauf was given three options: submit the report with God included, make revisions and edit out the G-word, or rewrite the entire report.

“She continued to write her paper,” Solis told the Press. “She knew what the consequences were.”

Sekulow says Hauf should have had no ban on her freedom of speech or religious views in the assignment.

“Bethany’s paper discusses some of the evidences supporting a hypothesis that, while the Constitution prohibits an established church, religion was essential to the founding of the Nation and to its governance thereafter,” he writes.

“Her paper was not one written ‘about God’ per se. Nor was her paper inherently and necessarily religious. And, in keeping with the requirements of the assignment, it was assiduously supported with citations to authority and written objectively. Consequently, even if, in a country in which academic and constitutional freedoms are so highly prized, it could be constitutional to impose a topical ban on papers about big ‘G’ gods, it was sophomoric error to read Mrs. Hauf’s research paper as falling within the prohibited zone.”

Despite the failing mark on the paper, Hauf passed the spring-semester course with a final grade of C.
 
According to the beatitudes, this student will be blessed.

I think it would be hilarious if the student turned in the exact same paper with “Easter Bunny” substituted in everywhere “God” had been but otherwise no changes. 😛

No, no, not “Easter Bunny” but “mythical being who is more ably powered than the rest of us whom some people deny to be any form of deity” everywhere the G- word is mentioned.

Alan
 
You go girl…er, woman! Good work. I wished I had been thusly challenged. I do not downgrade people in my religion classes for being atheists and for writing in defense of atheism. Atheism is a flawed system. But people have a right to be flawed. I point out the flaws but I do not give them poorer grades because of their beliefs.

This will be an interesting story to follow.

Dan L
 
This is so sickening! I am so sick and tired of atheists thinking they have a right to silence us! They fight for freedom of speech and this and that, but only when it applies to them. I hope that woman sues the pants off that school and wins! :mad:
 
From the article:

“We are very serious about this situation,” VVC spokesman Bill Greulich told WorldNetDaily. “You have two rights in conflict – the right to believe in what you believe in, and academic freedom. We’re going to take steps that are appropriate. We don’t have all the facts yet.”

Somebody help me out here.

Since when are “the right to believe in what you believe in” and “academic freedom” in conflict?
 
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Brad:
From the article:

“We are very serious about this situation,” VVC spokesman Bill Greulich told WorldNetDaily. “You have two rights in conflict – the right to believe in what you believe in, and academic freedom. We’re going to take steps that are appropriate. We don’t have all the facts yet.”

Somebody help me out here.

Since when are “the right to believe in what you believe in” and “academic freedom” in conflict?
Though many would like not to believe it we are facing a second Decian persecution. In that, the most dangerous persecution that the Church faced during the period of the Roman Empire, Christians were not denied the right to be Christian, provided they made a sacrifice to the God-Emperor, and refrain from public criticism of the state religion. Once done they could continue to worship their own God.

We are now in the same position. We are not denied the right to be Catholic as long as we make our due sacrifice to the God of Secularism, and refrain from public criticism of the state religion.
Of course if we don’t then we are condemned to white matyrdom (more civilised but no less effective).

Sadly the Decian persecution saw many apostates ( many of whom wanted to return to the church after the persecution was over) and we are already seeing many apostates in our own time.

I believe (though I know not the mind of God) that this is another time of testing of those whose faith is based on comfort and superficial membership of the Church. I pray that I have the strength to stay faithful to the things of God.
 
To the above: Since the teachers and professors sitting in their Ivory Towers decided their “enlightened” belief systems and personal moral relativism trumps what anyone else might believe.
 
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Brad:
From the article:

“We are very serious about this situation,” VVC spokesman Bill Greulich told WorldNetDaily. “You have two rights in conflict – the right to believe in what you believe in, and academic freedom. We’re going to take steps that are appropriate. We don’t have all the facts yet.”

Somebody help me out here.

Since when are “the right to believe in what you believe in” and “academic freedom” in conflict?
Since the teachers and professors sitting in their Ivory Towers decided their “enlightened” belief systems and personal moral relativism trumps what anyone else might believe.
 
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UnworthySoul:
Since the teachers and professors sitting in their Ivory Towers decided their “enlightened” belief systems and personal moral relativism trumps what anyone else might believe.
So, it seems what you are saying is academic freedom is not “the right to believe what you want to believe in” but “the right to believe in what the professor believes what is right”.

Theologically speaking, we are taught that freedom is the right to do what is right and license is freely doing what is wrong.

Maybe I have it wrong, but it looks like these academiacs are completely reversing this and saying that license is believing in God and His “imaginary” doctrines and laws and freedom is believing only what they believe is right. So they have taken the role of God.

Hmmm.

And judges come from the academiac realm.

Perhaps we should have a maximum allowed time spent in college.
 
Brad,

Or perhaps let us ban all colleges…they seem to be doing much more harm then good these days. Better off uneducated, then educated in evil.
 
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InnocentIII:
I believe (though I know not the mind of God) that this is another time of testing of those whose faith is based on comfort and superficial membership of the Church. I pray that I have the strength to stay faithful to the things of God.
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masondoggy:
This is so sickening! I am so sick and tired of atheists thinking they have a right to silence us! They fight for freedom of speech and this and that, but only when it applies to them. I hope that woman sues the pants off that school and wins! :mad:
They don’t just fight for free speech–they fight for their supposed “right” not to hear what they don’t believe. All the while, they accuse us of forcing our beliefs on them.

Of course, how do they reconcile their contradiction? When they accuse us of forcing our beliefs on them when we merely talk about them. However, when they, through lawsuits or punishments (like this F grade) make us to do what they want, they in no way think they are focing their beliefs on us.

Which side is intolerant here? I don’t think it is the Christian side (who merely talks, rather than enforce their will like the other side does).
 
None of this stuff surprises me…it is the way of the culture we live in. We gave away the culture.
 
I would like to read the paper to see how “offensive” it is.
 
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Brad:
From the article:

“We are very serious about this situation,” VVC spokesman Bill Greulich told WorldNetDaily. “You have two rights in conflict – the right to believe in what you believe in, and academic freedom. We’re going to take steps that are appropriate. We don’t have all the facts yet.”

Somebody help me out here.

Since when are “the right to believe in what you believe in” and “academic freedom” in conflict?
Apparently academic freedom is only a right of some faculty and that only if they are Atheists. Academic freedom is not a right of Students especially if they are Christian.

Dan Lauffer
 
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GregoryPalamas:
Apparently academic freedom is only a right of some faculty and that only if they are Atheists. Academic freedom is not a right of Students especially if they are Christian.

Dan Lauffer
Baloney!
 
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GregoryPalamas:
Apparently academic freedom is only a right of some faculty and that only if they are Atheists. Academic freedom is not a right of Students especially if they are Christian.
I wouldn’t limit the statement to atheists - pagans, native religious, Buddhists, Muslims also receive academic protection. It’s pretty much only Christians and conservatives who are persecuted by the boards of regents/boards of education.

But, this is pretty close - we’ve been seeing this since the Vietnam era - faculties have become more and more humanist and leftist. Chomsky rules supreme in the world of academia.

It began in the institutions of higher learning, and now it’s down to the junior high and even elementary school levels. The revisionist history that is being taught across our whole country is appalling.

Vietnam Veterans for Academic Reform and several other organizations are working on bringing this bigotry into the open and protecting the civil rights of students and faculty who are religious or politically conservative. (One group has “fire” in the name of the group, but I can’t remember what the name is)

Students who get “F’s” for expressing a pro-American philosophy or tying the development of our government to Judeo-Christian morality is nothing new.

Professors who are pro-life or Republican and can’t get tenure isn’t new. It’s just happening more often, now and more blatantly than in the past, when this kind of bigotry was at least somewhat hidden.

Elizabeth
 
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Brad:
Since when are “the right to believe in what you believe in” and “academic freedom” in conflict?
Exactly. If this woman can’t mention God in her paper, then she has no academic freedom.

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Student gets F grade
for mentioning God
‘He told me you might as well
write about the Easter Bunny’

A college in southern California is now investigating the case of a student who says she was given an F for mentioning “God” against the expressed wishes of her atheist instructor. Bethany Hauf, a freshman at Victor Valley Community College near San Bernadino, wrote the G-word 41 times in a paper titled “In God We Trust,” examining the role of religion in government

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