Study the Qur’an?

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Servant19 said:
Arte, can you seriously tell me that when the End Times do come, no one will know?
You are expecting the stars to fall, the sun to not give its light, the trumpets to blast from heaven, the entire world to be destroyed and a new one to be laid out in its stead and you’re gonna look at all this and say “Nope, no one will know when the End Times are coming. This isn’t it.”

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Matthew 24: 36 "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father…

Mark 13: 32"But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.

From the above, no-one knows when End Times will come with the exception of God the Father.

I do not believe that there is anything in any holy book that predicts End Times. Muslims are trying to convince us that there is science in the Quran which is absolutely laughable.

End Times will definitely start happening for our planet in about 1 billion years when the sun overheats and boils away the oceans. We had better be off this planet by then and living somewhere else or it will be End Times.
 
TonyBS said:
Please explain how I was talking about blind Faith.

Also please advise who is now the Authority that Gives meaning to the Old Testament?

The answer to these questions may lead is back to why one needs to study the Koran.

Regards Tony
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Just like you all use Authorised Interpretations for your teaching, so do we, for things like the Trinity.Just like you don’t use “Blind Faith” to believe in your teaching because you have your Authorised Interpretations… so do we. So do I have to believe that there were trillions and trillions and trillions of people that walked the earth before Adam and and Eve with just blind faith ?
 
arte said:
Matthew 24: 36 "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father…

Mark 13: 32"But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.

From the above, no-one knows when End Times will come with the exception of God the Father.

I do not believe that there is anything in any holy book that predicts End Times. Muslims are trying to convince us that there is science in the Quran which is absolutely laughable.

End Times will definitely start happening for our planet in about 1 billion years when the sun overheats and boils away the oceans. We had better be off this planet by then and living somewhere else or it will be End Times.
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" The Father " did let Tue world know in 1863, though there were quite a few that had already recognised “The Father” before the “Time”.

It is actually amazing how.much there is in the Bible about Muhammad and then also the end times.

A large part of Revelation is about Muhammad’s Revelation and that it was to last 1260 years, prophetic in fact.

Regards Tony
 
arte said:
Matthew 24: 36 "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father…

Mark 13: 32"But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.

From the above, no-one knows when End Times will come with the exception of God the Father.

I do not believe that there is anything in any holy book that predicts End Times. Muslims are trying to convince us that there is science in the Quran which is absolutely laughable.

End Times will definitely start happening for our planet in about 1 billion years when the sun overheats and boils away the oceans. We had better be off this planet by then and living somewhere else or it will be End Times.
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Again, if in one billion years when the sun overheats etc, you would KNOW that it’s End Times.
If we have set up life on other planets then you wouldn’t KNOW.

As I say, once End Times are upon us, there will be people who are aware because they are experiencing it.

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Servant19 said:
But according arte, you can’t know this.

And you’re both Catholics 🙂

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Not p(name removed by moderator)oint Day , but one can know the General time period . Jesus give the signs to look out for in the bible .
 
BL Rembordt (18th century). "God will punish the

world when men have devised marvellous inventions that will

lead them to forgetting God. They will have horseless car-

riages, and they will fly like the birds. But they will laugh at

the idea of God, thinking that they are ‘very clever.’
 
Techno2000 said:
Not p(name removed by moderator)oint Day , but one can know the General time period . Jesus give the signs to look out for in the bible .
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But you will miss Him, for He will come like a thief in the night 😉

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Servant19 said:
But you will miss Him, for He will come like a thief in the night 😉

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Servant, How does one know He will come like a thief in the night? Who said that and why does one believe that?

Btw Is it in the Quran?

MJ
 
MartinJordan said:
Servant, How does one know He will come like a thief in the night? Who said that and why does one believe that?

Btw Is it in the Quran?

MJ
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We are in a Catholic forum Martin 🙂
In a Muslim forum I will use the Quran to show that we are in End Times.

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Servant19 said:
…and to eliminate prejudice against Prophets outside of the Christian sphere of theology.

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That’s exactly what I thought. So when we quote from the Holy Bible about false prophets that’s “prejudice”? Eliminating prejudice against false prophets is something you wont do
 
JimmyDFG said:
That’s exactly what I thought. So when we quote from the Holy Bible about false prophets that’s “prejudice”? Eliminating prejudice against false prophets is something you wont do
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When you quote from the Holy Bible and INTERPRET it to mean that Muhammad, the Bab or Baha’u’llah are somehow influenced by Satan or are liars, that’s prejudice. The act of quoting in itself isn’t prejudice. It’s when it’s given a meaning that’s not there.

Of course we should be prejudiced against prophets that spread hatred and injustice and oppression and superstition, but Muhammad is not one of those, and neither is the Bab or Baha’u’llah

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Servant19 said:
Of course we should be prejudiced against Prophets that spread hatred and injustice and oppression and superstition, but Muhammad is not one of those, and neither is the Bab or Baha’u’llah

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That’s also a matter of interpretation, isn’t it?
 
Servant19 said:
Hatred and oppression is not interpretative, it’s empirical 🙂

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Are we supposed to count the dead bodies and compare? Do we stop at the leader or should we count the subsequent followers? How Many generations? Does abuse without death count?
 
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