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I am going to attempt to make a long story short, but I apologize in advance as that just may not happen. I have been soul searching for a long time and for the life of me don’t understand why I didn’t give the Catholic faith a good look in my journey.

I come from a family where my dad is Mormon and my mom is Catholic. As a baby, I was baptized (Christened? Not sure…sorry) in my mom’s church. However, my mom wasn’t really a practicing Catholic (she loves her faith, but isn’t a church goer), so at about 7 years old, when my dad started going back to church, my siblings and I went with him. At 8 you are supposed to be baptized, but at the age of 8, I felt I wasn’t ready to make such a decision (precocious much?). It wasn’t until I was 11 and my sister was 8 and making the choice to be baptized that I followed. I still felt uneasy, as I felt I was letting my mom down by being baptized in a different church (even though I’d only been to mass maybe twice at this point) and the diplomat in me couldn’t understand why I couldn’t be a part of both religions. I went through with the baptism, my dad was happy, my mom wasn’t upset and I was actually pretty happy. I find no fault in the LDS religion. I have many friends who are absolutely wonderful. Most members are very family oriented and try to do what is right. They do good works and look out for their fellow man. Fast forward to teen years though, and I just get restless in church. I don’t feel the Spirit the way I should (and perhaps, I never really did feel it the way I’m supposed to?) so I stop going.

Fast forward a couple more years and I join the Army and wind up going to church for the few months before I leave for basic training. Church gets me through the rough parts of training yet, I still have that restless feeling.

Sigh. I know, I’m so long winded. After basic, my church attendance kind of wanes and I go through my rebellious stage. By the time I make it to Korea, I haven’t seen a church in months. I wind up unwed and pregnant, a BIG no no to most religions and feel like I’m going to be the biggest disappointment ever to my father. He tells me he doesn’t care, he loves me and can’t wait to meet his granchild.

The church however, was more off putting. The leaders were wonderful actually, and very accepting. They never once said an unkind word to me. Many members however, said things right to my face that made me uncomfortable. Like, “this is why you’re supposed to wait until you’re married,” and “you should give it up for adoption”. I felt that my sins had been discussed within the proper channels and that I had repented and that my judgement was in His hands, not that of the church members. (I must say though, these were holier than thou members that most religions have in their folds…I know it is not specific to Mormonism. My true friends Mormon or not, love me for me, faults and all…)

After this, it was harder to sit in church. I didn’t feel the spirit. I didn’t feel like I agreed with many teachings. I didn’t want to denounce my membership, as I didn’t want to hurt my dad’s feelings (I know…bad excuse) but I stopped going and began to look elsewhere. I tried being just spiritual, then I tried a couple other faiths and even looked into some new age routes. Nothing seemed to fit. I craved more. I am missing something and I want it.

Recently, I asked my mom why we were raised with dad’s religion and she said it was because she was a bad Catholic and didn’t go to church and he did, so we just went with him. I admit, my knowledge of the faith is limited, but it has always intrigued me and I want to look into it more. I haven’t been to a mass in a couple years (occasionally I go with my mom on Christmas or Easter, only this year, I got up to go and was sick), and asked if we could give it a try. There is a beauty about Catholicism that I’ve noticed through my mother even though she doesn’t practice like she says she should. She has often mentioned the reason she never converted to LDS is because she never felt she was searching. That whenever she went to mass, she felt right, as if she were home. When she prays, she feels that she doesn’t need to change her beliefs. I want to feel that.

However, I know the religion is full of tradition that I can’t even begin to understand. I am planning on attending a mass this weekend, and she will probably go with me. But I am nervous. What do I need to do? Wear? How do I act? Do I need to let whoever is in charge know I am interested in seriously investigating and learning about their faith? Do I need to be rebaptized if I decide to follow this path? My daughter has since been baptized LDS and goes with my father to church. I am a firm believer in letting the child celebrate faith the way she sees fit and am not looking to force her into changing if she doesn’t desire to do so. I am sorry for the long windedness, but would really appreciate any (name removed by moderator)ut.

Again, I don’t want to seem like I’m insulting the religion I was raised in. I just disagree with a lot and don’t think I should claim to be a part of something I don’t fully believe in. I don’t feel at home there. I want to feel like I am in the right place. I want the feeling my mother describes. Any insight on the Catholic religion would be appreciated, I have talked to my mother a bit about it, but sometimes, it’s just easier to discuss the changing of one’s religion with someone other than family. It’s a big deal to me, as I love both my parents and as you can probably tell from the above novel, I don’t want either to think of my change as me saying I value one over the other. They are both wonderful people who have always made me feel loved, even with all the mistakes I’ve made!

Thank you in advance! 🙂
 
However, I know the religion is full of tradition that I can’t even begin to understand. I am planning on attending a mass this weekend, and she will probably go with me. But I am nervous. What do I need to do? Wear? How do I act? Do I need to let whoever is in charge know I am interested in seriously investigating and learning about their faith? Do I need to be rebaptized if I decide to follow this path?
Thank you in advance! 🙂
First, there are NO stupid questions. 😃
You should wear modest clothes. I tend to wear knee length dresses and usually a cardigan since I get cold easily. Act like you would in church. lol. Watch the people around you and stand when they do, sit when they do, etc. There should be a book in the pew that will help you follow along. After Mass, you can introduce yourself to the priest and tell him you are interested in RCIA.
RCIA is a class that helps you learn the faith.
Oh, and welcome!!
 
First, there are NO stupid questions. 😃
You should wear modest clothes. I tend to wear knee length dresses and usually a cardigan since I get cold easily. Act like you would in church. lol. Watch the people around you and stand when they do, sit when they do, etc. There should be a book in the pew that will help you follow along. After Mass, you can introduce yourself to the priest and tell him you are interested in RCIA.
RCIA is a class that helps you learn the faith.
Oh, and welcome!!
Thank you so much!
 
What do I need to do?
Sing, worship God. I do need to inform all non-Catholics though that only Catholics in a state of grace can receive Communion in our Church. 🙂
You’ll want to dress nice and like pretty much all Americans, according to the weather. Unless you are in a cathedral or church with blistering heat and no AC, I’d avoid shorts.
How do I act?
It’s proper to give your full attention to God. We sing, pray, kneel, stand, sit. You may want to look into at what specific times during Mass this happens or just follow everyone else’s lead.

I would say that most Catholic Churches are used to visitors, so if you feel like you don’t know what you’re doing completely, don’t worry. 🙂
Do I need to let whoever is in charge know I am interested in seriously investigating and learning about their faith?
Not at Mass. What I suggest doing is setting up an appointment with a Catholic priest and asking about RCIA.

Also, please keep in mind that most Catholics are not what can be considered pushy. This will be a journey for you.
Do I need to be rebaptized if I decide to follow this path?
I’ll leave that question for a more qualified spiritual director, like a priest.
 
If you were baptized a catholic, you will not need to have it done again.
Wear what ever you like. (shorts are okay in Mass as long as they aint daisy dukes :))
Most churches have a bulletin that shows you who does what ministries in the church and the RCIA director will be posted in there along with his/her number.
I help teach RCIA so im familiar with what goes on. You can PM me if more info is needed. May God bless you on your journey of faith.
 
Baptism cannot be repeated. You are a baptized Catholic. However, since you were never catechized and you adopted another religion as an adult, there is a process you must go through in order to be admitted into communion with the Church. You will need to go through catechesis to learn the faith, receive the Sacrament of Reconciliation by making your first confession, and then you will need to profess the Faith publicly. If you do that, you will be given the Sacrament of Confirmation and your first Holy Communion and be a fully initiated Catholic. The whole thing takes about a year.

You can sign up for the catechism classes through a parish RCIA (Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults) program. There is no commitment - seekers are always welcome. If you don’t have access to such a program, talk to your pastor or Catholic chaplain, who can design an individual program for you or just answer questions for you.
 
Thank you everyone! I really appreciate all the (name removed by moderator)ut! I am looking at the website for my local church right now. (They are closed for the night) As I said before, I am going to start attending and see how I feel (I can’t recall my feelings a couple years ago, because at the moment, I wasn’t searching). But the more I read about the Church, the more at ease I feel about my faith. The kind welcomes and answers also help a lot! 🙂
 
Baptism cannot be repeated. You are a baptized Catholic. However, since you were never catechized and you adopted another religion as an adult, there is a process you must go through in order to be admitted into communion with the Church. You will need to go through catechesis to learn the faith, receive the Sacrament of Reconciliation by making your first confession, and then you will need to profess the Faith publicly. If you do that, you will be given the Sacrament of Confirmation and your first Holy Communion and be a fully initiated Catholic. The whole thing takes about a year.
Sometimes 2 years, but thats for others that arent ready
You can sign up for the catechism classes through a parish RCIA (Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults) program. There is no commitment - seekers are always welcome. If you don’t have access to such a program, talk to your pastor or Catholic chaplain, who can design an individual program for you or just answer questions for you.
But very nice post, its all true 👍
 
Thank you for sharing part of your life with us. Each of us is very unique, has different vocations, and you share your thoughts in a very simple and kind manner that always comes out charitably.

I am very glad that your parents accepted your pregnancy in such a charitable way. I will add that it is reason of great rejoicing that you decided to have your child, rather than having an abortion…this is very edifying and inspiring for many, especially for us Catholics who fight hard to defend the holiness of life in the womb. After all, Elizabeth did call Mary “mother of my Lord” even if only a few days had gone since the angel had visited her! 🙂

Notice how important is your mom’s humbleness…she said she was “a bad Catholic”…that is very humble and inspiring…rather than being defensive about her choice, she accepts that she did not do things as she was expected to. Mind you, that does not make one a “bad Catholic” 😉 Catholics do follow a very old teaching sometimes quite hard in the modern world to follow, though it is rooted on charity and forgiveness…after all, each and every one of the over forty thousand Christian denominations that exist derive from the fifteen centuries of Tradition of the Catholic Church…but for some of us it is not easy to follow the fullness of the teachings of the Church, though if and when we do (and it is never too late) we live very fulfilling lives (even if life sometimes gets very rough, whether it is our fault or not). It did take me 10 years to come back to the Church!

I am intrigued by the fact that you mention Catholicism is full of tradition hard to understand. After all, Catholicism did not add anything to the faith of the Church Fathers 🙂 If you begin by reading what they wrote and taught - they who learned and taught the faith from the apostles in days when there was no such thing as a Bible - then you will be able to better understand what the Church does. Especially concerning the Sacraments and the Apostolic Succession, as well as the Mass and the Eucharist.

To begin, it would be important - I think - to humbly attend Holy Mass (without, of course, receiving Communion). It is not something to be nervous about…just dress as if you were at the presence of God (which means in a modest way, that’s all) and stand, sit, or kneel according to the ways in which the congregation does it (since each gesture carries a very profound meaning and is meant to give honor to God and to God alone).

Then you may begin to read the writings of the Church Fathers and the Compendium of the Catechism to better understand the Church…it would be nice to read some books about the Mass and its development throughout the centuries as well, and if possible to attend Mass in different rites (ex. Byzantine Rite, Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite, etc.) to experience how Christians have celebrated the Lord’s Supper for centuries…after all, the Ordinary Form of the Roman Rite was reformed in the 70s, so there is more to be experienced.

If you consider joining the Church in “full communion”, you may speak to the priest or someone in the Parish office about RCIA (“Rite of Christian Initiation for Adults”). There are certain aspects of the Mormon Baptism which the Church considers may have departed from the traditional, orthodox meaning that the Church of Christ understood when conferring Baptism to the extent of making its validity dubious (you may read more here) therefore the Church does ask you to be baptized according to the tradition she preserves. Mind you, this is not re-baptizing…the Church always taught that “we believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins”. Also, entering RCIA involves no “contract” on your side, nor does it make you Catholic…you can walk away at any time, and you can ask as many questions as you want…you can also speak to a priest and ask for his advice on any matter, or discuss any matter on the Church that you want…he is there for everyone, not just for Catholics.

As for your dear daughter, I am certain that you understand how a child is in no position to decide what is right and wrong until they reach the age and experience that render them independent from their parents. If you were to find that there is something in the Catholic Church that you want her to be a part of, you would certainly want to lead her in that direction. This would not be “forcing her” into anything, inasmuch as when she grows she can walk her own path according to God’s inspirations. You yourself are experiencing this process.

Not even once we have the impression that you are insulting the religion you were raised in, which is the Christian religion. It may well be that you are not finding what you need in the doctrine of the Church of Latter Day Saints…it is fairly possible, given that it was established as a community in 1830 (so it is relatively recent) and that its doctrine does have very significant difference with the traditional Christian doctrine. As you learn more about this, you will perhaps find this more within the Catholic Church, and Christ will certainly help you in making your belief more full…after all, if Christ is - as we believe - really present in the Church, making Himself present in the Eucharist and acting through His ordained ministers as successors of the apostles, then Christ will certainly give you the peace He promised us and lead you towards the Church and confirm you in the faith.

I believe your parents must be very proud of you, and if you are seeking Christ and find Him in the Catholic Church, they will not see this as a matter of you preferring one parent over the other, but as God leading you in a certain path and you responding to Him to the best of your ability.
 
Also, probably this booklet will be of some help! 🙂

Below an excerpt of the author’s introduction.
[T]o millions of people, Catholicism is not only a colossal success, it is also a colossal enigma. Of course, there has to be an explanation for these contradictory opinions, and there is an explanation: Protestants and others who have questions about Catholic belief too often make the mistake of going to the wrong place for the answers. Too often books written by religious incompetents are consulted. The result is incomplete and distorted information. With such information, one cannot help but see the Catholic faith as a colossal enigma.
The right place to go for information about Catholic belief, in fact the only place to go for complete and authoritative information, is the Catholic Church herself. As any detective will tell you, no investigation is quite so complete as an on the spot investigation. Hence, dear reader, if you are an outsider, an unaffiliated Christian, or an agnostic, who wants to know the truth about Catholic belief, take this friendly advice: Seek out a Catholic priest and put you questions to him. You will find him a very understanding and obliging person. Or read this little booklet. This booklet was written by a Catholic who knows the questions you are likely to ask, as well as the answers, because once he, too, was outside of the Catholic Church, looking in. The questions in this booklet are basically the same ones he put to a Catholic priest, and the answers are basically the same ones given him by that priest. Read this booklet; then forget all the fiction you have heard about the Catholic Church, for you will have the gospel truth.
 
Thank you! I will be the first to admit my knowledge of the Church is limited and I appreciate the nudges in the right direction! 🙂
 
I am very glad that your parents accepted your pregnancy in such a charitable way. I will add that it is reason of great rejoicing that you decided to have your child, rather than having an abortion…this is very edifying and inspiring for many, especially for us Catholics who fight hard to defend the holiness of life in the womb. After all, Elizabeth did call Mary “mother of my Lord” even if only a few days had gone since the angel had visited her! 🙂
Even though I had sinned, I loved my baby the minute I had an inkling I might be pregnant and I knew that no matter what challenges I should face, I would keep her. It has been a difficult road, but one I don’t regret. She’s 12 now and the light of my life. (Also the first grandchild, so she was spoiled by her grandma and grandpa!) I should have known my parents would love me and my baby, but as a young woman, I was terrified of being disowned. I was caught off guard at my dad’s response mostly, but grateful for his love and support.
 
There is a lot of information on this website, Catholic Answers. Type “Mormon” in the search engine and you will find information on the Catholic view of Mormonism:

catholic.com/search/content/mormon

The best information on Catholicism is the “Catechism of the Catholic Church.” It is available free on the internet. Also the Compendium of the Catechism in question and answer format.

usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/what-we-believe/catechism/catechism-of-the-catholic-church/epub/index.cfm

scborromeo.org/ccc.htm

Compendium of the Catechism:
vatican.va/archive/compendium_ccc/documents/archive_2005_compendium-ccc_en.html

Simplified Catechism:
catholicity.com/catechism/
 
Hi 🙂 If you come to Mass, you can just sit/stand/kneel when others do, you’ll see. You don’t have to have the responses memorized and people won’t look at you strangely if you don’t say anything. As for dress, just modest church dress is fine. I personally wear longer skirts/dresses with cardigans, typically. You won’t be able to receive Communion though - that’s only for those (Catholics) who have gone to Confession and did the fasting. If you want, you can talk to the priest after, that’s up to you.

If you were baptized Catholic, you are actually a Catholic 🙂 you won’t need to be rebaptized. Only your first baptism was valid. You’d need to be confirmed, if you decide to practice Catholicism. Then you’ll have a Confession, and Communion.

One thing that’s really important to Catholics is that Jesus is truly present in the Eucharist. We believe that after the priest consecrated the bread and wine, there is no more bread and wine at all (only in appearance, not in fact) and it’s actually Jesus. We can pray to Him in the Eucharist, cause it’s truly Him. People genuflect (kneel down on one knee) towards the Tabernacle, where the Eucharist is kept. (a red light should glow above or beside the Tabernacle).

Here’s more on this 🙂 ewtn.com/faith/teachings/eucha1.htm

You can always ask Jesus to help you understand if He is present in the Eucharist, when you come to visit the Mass.

God bless! 🙂
 
About your daughter, you can talk about this to a priest later, about which faith to raise her in. I think the Church encourages Catholic parents to raise children Catholic - but this is not forcing it on them, rather just giving them an opportunity to know about it. Everyone eventually comes to the point of needing to accept it for themselves, and the age varies. Don’t be worried about this now, just talk it over with a good priest when you’re ready. I think if you come to believe the teachings of the Church, you would probably want to share this with your daughter, simply because it’s quite beautiful and gives peace to the soul 🙂 I think it would just be something that would come naturally and wouldn’t cause distress. Your daughter might be interested too. Give this part some time if it’s a bit difficult 🙂 I’d encourage you to look into the Church to see how it goes! I’m a convert and when I was Protestant, God drew me very clearly to the Sacraments, though I didn’t want to, initially, and now I’m so glad. First I went back to the church where I was baptized with my family (Eastern Orthodox, who also believe in the Sacraments but not the Papacy), and later I became Catholic. It can be a bit overwhelming to learn all the information, but there are lots of people, or articles, or books, that can help and in the end, it makes sense.

God bless
 
xpirategrrlx, there are many roads that bring people to Catholicism. Prayer, Mass, Scripture. These are the spiritual roots of Catholicism. If you are engaged in these, particularly daily, you are engaged in Catholic spiritual practices. 🙂

Most of the time I wear jeans, because that is most of my wardrobe. 😃 I wear jeans to the office, I wear jeans to Mass. I do pick out my best pair for Mass and wear a more dressed up shirt. Sometimes I’ll do something really shocking like wear a skirt.:eek:

As for married/unmarried/single mom…maybe Catholics in 1950 would be shocked.

Focus on worship at Mass, and note what you like. No need to be nervous.

Rebecca
 
I just want to say you are amazing. I hope you are doing well on your search.
 
Thank you everyone! I am subscribed to this thread, but see that I didn’t get notified the last couple times someone posted. I missed Mass last week due to illness, but went the week before and it just happened to be first communion for a group of children. I stood in the back (it was SRO and I got there early!) and just observed. Unlike church growing up (and even when I went as an adult!) I didn’t feel fidgety, nor did I feel the need to pass notes amongst friends. It was very different than church meetings I am used to, but I felt a peace that I haven’t felt for a long time. I decided on a nice blouse and slacks and didn’t feel at all out of place.

It was nice and I want to go again and learn more. Thank you all again for your comments and suggestions!🙂
 
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