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How do you tolerate suffering? How is it that God brings Holiness out of it?

I’ve having a lot of trouble dealing with the Cross He’s given me…and the Cross I’ve fashioned myself.

Christi pax,

Lucretius
 
Well, you mention fashioning it yourself… this is sometimes not persay suffering He gives. But nonetheless is that which He will deliver from. But to have the faith to persevere is when the end of the tunemnel starts to have a light. In a moment it can feel like there is no end in sight, but in the grand scheme of life it is realizing how temporary things can be even if it is years.

Also, sometimes out view of suffering is not really that. Hence the term “first world problems” and dwelling on a negative that really isn’t that bad… and not dwelling on it the easiest and fastest way to move on to the new goodness that lies on the other end.
 
Op-- leathalmouse has given you much insight. Meditate on what he or she has offered and see where it leads you on your journey.
In my view suffering is not so much to be tolerated as it is something to be let go of. Easier said than done but it’s been my experience that through meditation I’m able to release what I feel is causing me to suffer when really it is me that causes it.
 
How do you tolerate suffering? How is it that God brings Holiness out of it?
By relying on His grace by consistently abandoning oneself to His will. One of the good effects is that it purifies our love for God.

Let’s face it, I don’t think we really love God and Jesus and Mary all that much. Most of us have so many other aspects of Catholicism that we probably love more than Him, and we love worldly things even more.

I don’t think we see suffering as a gift because we see everything good around us as something we’re entitled to. Okay, maybe most of us don’t crave things that require a great deal of money or effort to procure. But the little things? Like being comfortable and free of any sort of pressure and stress or having everything go our way at least the majority of the time? Things like being free to pursue our dreams and have good friends and being liked and respected and at least partially influential in our own little world?

Those are the things that the world says are the “bottom line” of bare necessity, and when we’re somehow separated from them, we have little fits. We can’t even be delayed by 15 minutes in traffic without blaming God and all of creation for such an abhorrent failure of justice.

So I think the key is to realize that a great deal of our suffering is simply a reaction we have to being separated from something that we viscerally crave. Granted, there’s a great deal of circumstances that require heroic virtue to not be crushed by.

But God is always there, and He’s constantly wanting us to rely on Him more. But we have to want to do that, rather than giving into temptations to despair or to become bitter or to cling to resentment.

We have to want to truly love Him above all things, and learn to practice detachment by attaching ourselves only to Him.
 
I offer it up to God; knowing that He does not give me anything to bear that He & I can’t handle together.
 
How do you tolerate suffering? How is it that God brings Holiness out of it?

I’ve having a lot of trouble dealing with the Cross He’s given me…and the Cross I’ve fashioned myself.

Christi pax,

Lucretius
I’m sorry to hear that.

Do you have someone you can talk to about specifics and who won’t judge you?

If you are ever feeling distressed about things you can always contact a completely confidential and non-judgemental support service at jo@samaritans.org. It is a UK charity but supports people anywhere.

Michael
 
I offer it up to God; knowing that He does not give me anything to bear that He & I can’t handle together.
This is exactly how I feel. In my morning prayers, before I do anything, I tell God that I am thankful for another day on His Earth and I offer my entire day to Him…my joys, works and sufferings. I offer them to Him for His intentions, for the Holy Souls in Purgatory, in reparation for my sins, for the intentions of my family and friends and in particular for the intentions of our holy father, Pope Francis.
 
Christ suffered unto death. We are members of His Body, thus we will also suffer in this life. We are therefore, the most Christ-like when we willingly suffer. We must embrace, even enjoy suffering for the sake of the Kingdom, because of the eternal ecstasy that is promised after this short life. The great mystics of the Church enjoyed suffering for their love of God. In the book of Acts, Peter and John rejoiced that they were found willing to suffer for the sake of the name (Acts 5:41). Christ told Ananias that He would show Saul/Paul how much he would suffer for the Kingdom (Acts 9:16). The Archangel Raphael told both the elder and the younger Tobias that since they were acceptable to God, temptation (testing, suffering) would prove their worth (Tobit 12:13 Douay-Rheims/Knox). Yet, no suffering will be given us without the strength to bear it. We fail only when we do not ask for that strength. We fail when we turn inward on ourselves and not outward to our Father in heaven.
 
This is exactly how I feel. In my morning prayers, before I do anything, I tell God that I am thankful for another day on His Earth and I offer my entire day to Him…my joys, works and sufferings. I offer them to Him for His intentions, for the Holy Souls in Purgatory, in reparation for my sins, for the intentions of my family and friends and in particular for the intentions of our holy father, Pope Francis.
Amen.
 
I wish I had an answer for you. I am suffering physically right now and struggling with it. Sometimes I do feel it’s helping me spiritually - learning to carry my cross, learning to trust in God’s mercy and providence (and especially that He knows what is best for me)- but other times- most of the time, truth be told- I’m just scared. I don’t suffer well. Perhaps that why I’m suffering is so I can learn to suffer well, I don’t know.

I will pray for you.
 
Op-- leathalmouse has given you much insight. Meditate on what he or she has offered and see where it leads you on your journey.
In my view suffering is not so much to be tolerated as it is something to be let go of. Easier said than done but it’s been my experience that through meditation I’m able to release what I feel is causing me to suffer when really it is me that causes it.
I be a he lol

And thnx 🙂
 
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