Suggestion for Friday abstinence

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Instead of eating lobsters or other expensive seafood, why not try eating carp?
 
Crescentinus said:
Instead of eating lobsters or other expensive seafood, why not try eating carp?
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Who eats expensive seafood? I can’t remember the last time I had lobster. I certainly have never cooked one.

On the other hand, I have made cheese pizza, eggs or mac and cheese when abstaining from meat. I also make tilapia.
 
I like salad and crackers for lunch and spaghetti and tomato sauce for dinner.
 
Crescentinus said:
Instead of eating lobsters or other expensive seafood, why not try eating carp?
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Might want to look into *Tofu *and *Quinoa *. I recommend the latter since it’s a complete protein grain and is perfect for a quick stir fry being great a substitute for rice (as it also has a nice ratio of carbs) with a few vegetables and a simple sauce.
 
I remember lobster. It’s been a long, long time since I’ve had lobster.

As to carp—I’ve never seen carp for sale at my local grocery stores. So, I don’t believe, carp will be on my menu.
 
asia53 said:
I remember lobster. It’s been a long, long time since I’ve had lobster.

As to carp—I’ve never seen carp for sale at my local grocery stores. So, I don’t believe, carp will be on my menu.
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From what I know, carp is highly available in certain parts of the United States (such as Illinois) whereas Humboldt squid is highly available in California.
 
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From what I know, carp is highly available in certain parts of the United States (such as Illinois) whereas Humboldt squid is highly available in California.
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Welcome to Colorado, where carp and Humboldt squid are not available. We’re landlocked, so other than farm-raised trout–which is terrible, and the occasional flown-in fresh fish deal—which is very hard on the budget conscious; not many choices here.

Lobster has been out of my price range for years.
 
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Hence me posting it in the Traditional Catholicism subforum. 🙂
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Okay you’ve lost me. On Fridays outside Lent we don’t have to abstain from anything, not even meat. However, we do have to perform some type of penance.
I’m not trying to be difficult but I don’t understand the point are you trying to make. Can you clarify?
 
Crescentinus said:
Instead of eating lobsters or other expensive seafood, why not try eating carp?
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Tangential to this subject perhaps, but I have a question which I hope someone can answer …

It was my understanding that in the early church instead of abstinence on Friday only it was originally Wednesday and Friday, and fish/seafood was not permitted.

If so (I suppose it should be verified if we can), when (what years) did eating fish and other seafoods begin to be accepted and allowed?

Thanks

BTW, I have had carp in China on more than one occasion and it was absolutely delicious! 👍
 
thistle said:
Okay you’ve lost me. On Fridays outside Lent we don’t have to abstain from anything, not even meat. However, we do have to perform some type of penance.
I’m not trying to be difficult but I don’t understand the point are you trying to make. Can you clarify?
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My point is, I recall some stories odd stories about abstinence. Before Vatican II, there were those who did abstain from meat on Fridays but they bought more expensive seafoods such as lobsters. Odd thing is, even after Vatican II, there are still those who do buy more expensive seafoods. I am simply offering an alternative to lobsters or other expensive seafoods. In some parts of the eastern United States, carp is cheap. In California, Humboldt squid had become cheaper when the Humboldt squid invaded California.
 
Crescentinus said:
My point is, I recall some stories odd stories about abstinence. Before Vatican II, there were those who did abstain from meat on Fridays but they bought more expensive seafoods such as lobsters. Odd thing is, even after Vatican II, there are still those who do buy more expensive seafoods. I am simply offering an alternative to lobsters or other expensive seafoods. In some parts of the eastern United States, carp is cheap. In California, Humboldt squid had become cheaper when the Humboldt squid invaded California.
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I think the number of people eating expensive lobsters on Fridays out of 1.2 billion Catholics is so minescule it doesn’t even register.
 
Crescentinus said:
My point is, I recall some stories odd stories about abstinence. Before Vatican II, there were those who did abstain from meat on Fridays but they bought more expensive seafoods such as lobsters. Odd thing is, even after Vatican II, there are still those who do buy more expensive seafoods. I am simply offering an alternative to lobsters or other expensive seafoods. In some parts of the eastern United States, carp is cheap. In California, Humboldt squid had become cheaper when the Humboldt squid invaded California.
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Whiting is the cheapest fish I’m aware of in my area.
 
thistle said:
I think the number of people eating expensive lobsters on Fridays out of 1.2 billion Catholics is so minescule it doesn’t even register.
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Indeed.
Here in the Far East, carp is one of the staple fish. 🙂
 
Carp and lobster are both bottom-feeders. What’s the difference, really, other than in the eye of society?

I normally do an alternative penance. During Lent I either make a batch of mac and cheese (with a can of diced tomatoes, a can of corn, and a dash of curry powder), or I bake up a breaded fillet and make myself a fish-wich.
 
thistle said:
We are not required to eat any kind of seafood on Fridays.
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Yes, disciplines change, and I, too, am not sure why a discipline which changes has anything to to with traditional Catholicism.

Once upon a time, in a galaxy far, far away, the public school lunch menu would have fish every Friday, in deference to the Catholic pupils. That doesn’t happen in our Imperial star system these days where religious sensibilities and disciplines are sneered at.
 
We have a lot of different seafood available where I live. I tend to eat a grilled shrimp salad for lunch and either boiled crawfish or a peanut butter sandwich for dinner.
 
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