Support for Komen Drops After Planned Parenthood Controversy

[LisaA]

This was discussed at length earlier this year. Apparently many did not know Komen supported Planned Parenthood and this information has caused a substantial drop in support for the Komen’s Race for the Cure.

thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/abortion/230563-participation-in-komen-charity-race-drops-after-planned-parenthood-fight

It’s too bad Komen buckled to the pressure of the abortion lobby!

Lisa

 

[exnihilo]

Unfortunately I’m not so sure the reason for the drop off is from people who are upset that Komen did give and is still giving to PP. I think, disturbingly, the drop off is due to people withholding support because Komen had a moment of weakness and loss of faith. Their dropping support for PP for even an instant is what is causing the drop in funding. Pro abortion folks are punishing Komen for raising any doubts about the holiness of PP. I think it actually shows how committed abortionists are to their sin. I think they are probably far more committed, or at least more powerful, than those who are against abortion.

Rep. Mike Honda (D-Calif.) recently told NPR that he would not attend this year’s Race for the Cure.

“Probably an issue for me is an issue of trust and follow-through,” he said.

“I wanted to see whether the Komen group will, in fact, fund groups like Planned Parenthood as a grantee.”

 

[Samuel63]

Over the long term, the group that contracepts and aborts their precious babies will dwindle in size. I would expect this to affect their support over several reproductive generations, perhaps 75 years. Good riddance!

 

[_Abyssinia]

When multiple studies have shown a link between breast cancer and abortion for them to be donating to Planned Parenthood is shameful. Komen’s donations went sky high after dropping Planned Parenthood.

 

[_Abyssinia]

Unfortunately I’m not so sure the reason for the drop off is from people who are upset that Komen did give and is still giving to PP. I think, disturbingly, the drop off is due to people withholding support because Komen had a moment of weakness and loss of faith. Their dropping support for PP for even an instant is what is causing the drop in funding. Pro abortion folks are punishing Komen for raising any doubts about the holiness of PP. I think it actually shows how committed abortionists are to their sin. I think they are probably far more committed, or at least more powerful, than those who are against abortion.

Komen have lost pro abortion people who now do not trust them, and Komen has lost pro lifers who do not trust them.

 

[Nimzovik]

Unfortunately I’m not so sure the reason for the drop off is from people who are upset that Komen did give and is still giving to PP. I think, disturbingly, the drop off is due to people withholding support because Komen had a moment of weakness and loss of faith. Their dropping support for PP for even an instant is what is causing the drop in funding. Pro abortion folks are punishing Komen for raising any doubts about the holiness of PP. I think it actually shows how committed abortionists are to their sin. I think they are probably far more committed, or at least more powerful, than those who are against abortion.

I have no doubt Planned Parenthood would love to have everyone think the bad Press for Komen had no to little effect.

 

[SamH]

Komen have lost pro abortion people who now do not trust them, and Komen has lost pro lifers who do not trust them.

That’s what happens when you walk both sides of the fence.

 

[exnihilo]

Komen have lost pro abortion people who now do not trust them, and Komen has lost pro lifers who do not trust them.

Probably so. But how do we know which is the larger group?

I have no doubt Planned Parenthood would love to have everyone think the bad Press for Komen had no to little effect.

Still PP receives lot of money from the government and many corporations, and has the support of lots of prominent people. There are many institutions that support PP. I despise PP and am disgusted by any person or organization that supports them. But I think I’m sadly in the minority, but not without great company.

 

[LisaA]

Komen have lost pro abortion people who now do not trust them, and Komen has lost pro lifers who do not trust them.

Absolutely agree that it cut both ways for Komen. I do believe the higher profile of Komen supporting PP was a significant factor. And on the other side, even if you are not pro life, donations to a breast cancer related charity that end up in the coffers of an organization supporting abortion (which as you noted suggests a strong link to development of breast cancer!) versus focus on breast cancer seems counterproductive. Many who give to breast cancer organizations have a personal stake as survivors, as spouses, family or friends of breast cancer victims. Seeing their money spent on something so unrelated to the cause seems like a total waste of their donation.

Komen really made a blunder and I suspect they will never have the same high appeal from either side of the Sanctity of Life issue.

Lisa

 

[LisaA]

Probably so. But how do we know which is the larger group?.

Does that matter? I’m just pleased that more are aware of the link between what used to be a well respected charity and PP have been exposed. You know had I not been on CAF I would never have heard about this link in the first place. Breast cancer runs in my family and I lost my beloved grandmother to the disease. I USED to support Komen because I thought they were doing good work. Since I learned about their support of PP not only do I never give but I always make a point of telling people about their funding of PP. Word travels! This incident probably did more to expose Komen than anything in the past.

Still PP receives lot of money from the government and many corporations, and has the support of lots of prominent people. There are many institutions that support PP. I despise PP and am disgusted by any person or organization that supports them. But I think I’m sadly in the minority, but not without great company.

You are right but the tide is turning! Thanks to courageous reporters, bloggers, politicians and religious leaders, PP’s profile is becoming more and more negative. You do have great company in your fight against PP and they are increasing in numbers and passion against this merchant of death.

Lisa

 

[Nimzovik]

Yes… the polls are indicating a trend in people calling themselves Pro - Life. Now… the question is r*eally *- how many will behave like a Pro - Lifer in terms of voting and personal practice.

Still. We are making progress.

 

[estesbob]

Good. As the old proverb goes"if you sleep with dogs dont be surprised when you get fleas"

 

[Trader]

I the past two weeks I have received two different surveys asking about my perceptions of SG Komen. It appears they have prepared a whole series of ads that stress the theme of stopping breast cancer and helping women, but ignore my objection. At this point they know there is a problem but have no idea how to address it.

They need to take lessons from Toyota. Run more ads and fix the problem. Ads alone are not the solution.

 

[LisaA]

I the past two weeks I have received two different surveys asking about my perceptions of SG Komen. It appears they have prepared a whole series of ads that stress the theme of stopping breast cancer and helping women, but ignore my objection. At this point they know there is a problem but have no idea how to address it.

They need to take lessons from Toyota. Run more ads and fix the problem. Ads alone are not the solution.

That’s interesting. They do have a place on their website where you can contact them with your thoughts. I’ve done this in the past. You might pass along this idea. They clearly realize the blunder but as you said, do not know how to address the problem or solve it.

Lisa

 

[livingwordunity]

When multiple studies have shown a link between breast cancer and abortion for them to be donating to Planned Parenthood is shameful. Komen’s donations went sky high after dropping Planned Parenthood.

This shows that the race is to funnel more money into the bloody hands of abortion giant Planned Parenthood.

 

[kslat]

"_Abyssinia:

Komen have lost pro abortion people who now do not trust them, and Komen has lost pro lifers who do not trust them.

That’s what happens when you walk both sides of the fence.

True, and true. I formerly avoided contributions to Komen because I knew they gave money to Planned Parenthood, who, apparently, puts all contributions in the same pile and, anyway, doesn’t provide necessary breast health services to prevent or treat breast cancer. (They make referrals.) I was hesitantly happy when I heard Komen was going to stop giving them money. Now, I don’t know what they’re doing, so again, I am avoiding contributions. (No purchases of things tagged with the pink ribbon…)

I would love to support breast cancer research. But Komen associates themselves with a provider of abortions and contraceptives. Not to derail the thread, but I have the same problem with them as I do with the Girl Scouts: they do good things, but since they associate themselves unnecessarily with contentious issues, and specifically because they take a position, or at least make contributions to something, that I simply cannot support, I cannot support them. And that, apparently, makes me closed-minded and a woman-hater and all kinds of other intolerable things.

Komen has gotten themselves into a mess.

 

[Dejagirl]

When multiple studies have shown a link between breast cancer and abortion for them to be donating to Planned Parenthood is shameful. Komen’s donations went sky high after dropping Planned Parenthood.

I did not know of these studies. On a similar note, since the Health Care Mandate issue has come up, they discuss it quite a bit on Relevant Radio (Catholic Radio). From this I learned there are also many long term health risks for women who use the pill - especially for a longer length of time. You never hear about it though. When you go to the doctor, the pill is promoted as being good for your body.

It’s too bad Komen caved to the pressue of the secular left. Surely God would have blessed her and her efforts even more had she used her talents and organization to help the unborn.

 

[ConcernedApathy]

I did not know of these studies.

For the record you didn’t know about them because they’re not true.

“In 2004, the Collaborative Group on Hormonal Factors in Breast Cancer, based out of Oxford University in England, put together the results from 53 separate studies done in 16 different countries. These studies included about 83,000 women with breast cancer. After combining and reviewing the results from these studies, the researchers concluded that “the totality of worldwide epidemiological evidence indicates that pregnancies ending as either spontaneous or induced abortions do not have adverse effects on women’s subsequent risk of developing breast cancer.” These experts did not find that abortions (either induced or spontaneous) cause a higher breast cancer risk.”

cancer.org/Cancer/BreastCancer/MoreInformation/is-abortion-linked-to-breast-cancer

 

[_Abyssinia]

I did not know of these studies. On a similar note, since the Health Care Mandate issue has come up, they discuss it quite a bit on Relevant Radio (Catholic Radio). From this I learned there are also many long term health risks for women who use the pill - especially for a longer length of time. You never hear about it though. When you go to the doctor, the pill is promoted as being good for your body.

It’s too bad Komen caved to the pressue of the secular left. Surely God would have blessed her and her efforts even more had she used her talents and organization to help the unborn.

Studies from all around the world have a shown a link between abortion and cancer. A study from Sri Lanka found post abortive women had tripled their chances of developing breast cancer. Study from Northeast China found a link between abortion and breast cancer.

Dr Louise Briton, U.S. National Cancer Institute researcher once denied a link between abortion and breast cancer, she changed her mind in 2010:

lifesitenews.com/news/archive/ldn/2010/jan/10010706

Dr Joel Brind, director at the Breast Cancer Prevention Institute and professor of endocrinology at Baruch College, City University of New York, estimated that abortion had caused an estimated 300000 deaths from abortion since 1973:

bit.ly/GWx1om

54 of 67 epidemiological studies since 1957 have shown a link between abortion and breast cancer, not counting biological and experimental evidence:

lifenews.com/2010/09/21/nat-6718

 

[_Abyssinia]

For the record you didn’t know about them because they’re not true.

“In 2004, the Collaborative Group on Hormonal Factors in Breast Cancer, based out of Oxford University in England, put together the results from 53 separate studies done in 16 different countries. These studies included about 83,000 women with breast cancer. After combining and reviewing the results from these studies, the researchers concluded that “the totality of worldwide epidemiological evidence indicates that pregnancies ending as either spontaneous or induced abortions do not have adverse effects on women’s subsequent risk of developing breast cancer.” These experts did not find that abortions (either induced or spontaneous) cause a higher breast cancer risk.”

cancer.org/Cancer/BreastCancer/MoreInformation/is-abortion-linked-to-breast-cancer

Refutation to Beral study:

In fact, the Beral study reanalyzed the data only after a highly biased selection process which had many studies showing valid evidence of the ABC link inappropriately excluded, invalid studies whose flaws had been documented in the scientific literature inappropriately included, and valid studies whose data had been published simply not mentioned at all.

bcpinstitute.org/beralpaperanalysis.htm

One of the sources on the link you provided that deny link from abortion to breast cancer, The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) is questionable. They restrict health care professionals to object to contraception and abortion on conscience grounds. 127 studies have shown a link between abortion and pre term births in later pregnancies. Dr Bryan Calhourn writes in Abortion and Preterm Birth: Why Medical Journals Aren’t Giving Us The Real Picture,’ that 'the leading medical organizations for women’s healthcare, including the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) in their online Compendium for 2011, refuse to acknowledge the increased associated risk of preterm labor or the substantial body of literature raising this concern.’ ACOG are against acknowledging any research that concerns abortion impact on health.

American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) in 1965 redefined conception to ‘the implantation of a fertilized ovum,’(source) from the union of sperm and egg. This redefinition allowed the pill and other hormones that can interfere with implantation instead of being classified as an aborificant to be classified as contraception. This opened the door to wide acceptance of contraception, but also later abortificant such as the morning after pill, IVF and embryonic stem cell research. Abortion was legalized 8 years after ACOG redefined contraception.