Supreme Court Ruling on Health Care

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Jeffrey said:
Ya… you mean the ppl that don’t want insurance now have to buy… I will not pay the tax. Also… .you have all the uninsured that couldn’t afford to begin now have to buy becuz they are just above the cutoff. Thanks alot.
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People who don’t want insurance? Hmm, you mean like the superhuman people who will never get sick OR if they do, who possess enough medical knowledge to personally select all medical services so as not to exceed their financial ability to cover 100% of their costs? Those people?
 
I can not take the Supreme Court ruling seriously. I believe ObamaTax will be repealed by Romney and Congress. The end.
 
Bubba_Switzler said:
You don’t “deserve” charity if, by that, you are claiming a right to take by force.

You do deserve charity in the sense that nobody ought to stand between you and a chartible giver. But who is doing that exactly?
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What are you saying? I am glad the government is letting me buy insurance with my pre-existing condition. I will be paying for great insurance. I am not poor. I was disallowed to purchase great insurance.
 
MichaelTDoyle said:
No one says health care does not need reform, but selling the US citizen’s right to be free from regulatory compulsion down the drain and saddling our children with a broken economy for your pre-existing condition is fair to you?

Government imposed healthcare does not equal charity.
Charity has a double effect on the giver and the receiver.
Compulsion has a double effect on the prison guard and the inmate.

This is compulsion and it is not holy. It is the fruit of placing human beings’ worth extrinsically instead of intrinsically. It is the fruit of the american people willfully electing the most pro infanticide President this nation has had.
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irishpatrick said:
To all those who support the SC ruling:

Do you believe the ends justifies the means?
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They will tell you NO, but the answer is YES. However, they will soon discover that this mindless drivel on parchment, which is contemptuous of our individual rights, will cause the total collapse of our great medical system that most of us have always taken for granted. ROB
 
You are making no sense.
seekerz said:
People who don’t want insurance? Hmm, you mean like the superhuman people who will never get sick OR if they do, who possess enough medical knowledge to personally select all medical services so as not to exceed their financial ability to cover 100% of their costs? Those people?
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St_Francis said:
How does that work, and does it cover your whole family?
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The way it works is, for whatever reason, you have no insurance. So you fill out an application which includes your earnings for the previous six months and what you project to earn in the next six months. You include yourself, your spouse and children.

They then determine how much you’ll have to pay of yourself. Once approved, you go on the internet or through the agency we applied through, and you have a choice of five different private health insurance companies to chose from. They have different cost and different deductibles, so you decide which one fits your family best. Then, you sign up with the company of your choice. It goes into effect when they receive your payment, which can be done on line or by mail. We have it automatically paid with our credit card.

The company we chose, Network Health, has been excellent and I’ve already had some health issue to deal with and the deductible was the same as what I had with my employer.

It’s not government insurance, as many people think, but private insurance that you pay for on your own. However, because there are 50,000 people in the pool, it drives the premiums down, so they’re affordable.

FYI, if your income level is too low, you go to Medicare, which isn’t Romney Care nor Obama Care, and has been before, but you use to have to be on welfare.

Jim
 
Jeffrey said:
You are making no sense.
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Well the idea of choosing not to have health insurance implies either that a person can decide whether or not to get sick OR if they do get sick, can control how much their sickness costs.
 
Heavy_Cross said:
What are you saying? I am glad the government is letting me buy insurance with my pre-existing condition. I will be paying for great insurance. I am not poor. I was disallowed to purchase great insurance.
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The government is not “letting [you] buy insurance with my pre-existing condition”. The government is forcing others to subsidize your health care. I don’t doubt that you are glad. The question is not whether you are glad but whether it is just and whether such coercion leads to a just society.

I’m sure you would be glad if the government “let” you have free ice cream.
 
Jeffrey said:
Now i have to pay for you… when i can barley survive… thanks alot.
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No you don’t pay for him. He buys his own private health insurance, unless of course his earnings are too low, then he goes on medicare which isn’t Obama Care and you’ve been paying for long before Obama became president.

Jim
 
seekerz said:
Well the idea of choosing not to have health insurance implies either that a person can decide whether or not to get sick OR if they do get sick, can control how much their sickness costs.
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Or that they prefer to pay in cash OR that they will make do with what they can afford OR that they prefer to take the risk OR that others will cover their costs. There are a number of possibilities that you seem obvlious to.
 
Heavy_Cross said:
What are you saying? I am glad the government is letting me buy insurance with my pre-existing condition. I will be paying for great insurance. I am not poor. I was disallowed to purchase great insurance.
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Don’t let anyone put you on a guilt trip. Doing the right thing is FAR and away more important than squabbling over why one should or shouldn’t have to do it. It is the right thing to make care accessible to those who need it.
 
Bubba_Switzler said:
The government is not “letting [you] buy insurance with my pre-existing condition”. The government is forcing others to subsidize your health care. I don’t doubt that you are glad. The question is not whether you are glad but whether it is just and whether such coercion leads to a just society.

I’m sure you would be glad if the government “let” you have free ice cream.
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We are coerced by the government all the time to pay for wars I don’t support.
 
seekerz said:
Don’t let anyone put you on a guilt trip. Doing the right thing is FAR and away more important than squabbling over why one should or shouldn’t have to do it. It is the right thing to make care accessible to those who need it.
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Too bad that ObamaCare does not do what is necessary to actually fix the problems.
 
seekerz said:
It is the right thing to make care accessible to those who need it.
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It is the wrong thing to force one person pay another. It is the right thing to encourage one person to be charitable toward another. Sadly, that distinction is lost on too many.
 
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