Supreme Court Ruling on Same Sex Marriage

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From the White House’s perspective, a segment of the population was granted a civil right.

They’re supposed to sit on their hands?
I have no idea what youre talking about. Tools have no business celebrating decisions like this.
 
That’s because not everyone feels that their sexual orientation requires a color scheme.
I guess a “traditional marriage” lighting scheme is out of the question, then.

It’s not just a color scheme, it’s a symbol. Semiotics is very important, and the neglect of it cost the traditional marriage crowd dearly.
 
The conspiracy theory is that the SCOTUS ruling must have been leaked to the WH and Disney World (:confused:) in order for these light displays to be put up the same day. A number of other possibilities exist: lighting specialists had lights on hand, the court was expected to rule as it did so these entities were prepared… Not all conspiracy theories are faulty, mind you. But you and others have provided ZERO evidence to support yours – and no, a head scratch and disdain for both the ruling and light displays don’t count.

What’s baffling is that folks care this much about light displays rather than focusing on the actual outcome of the ruling.
Whether these displays were preplanned or not is important. The fact is that these displays on the White House, property of the people of the United States, and the most famous amusement park in the world…offended millions of Americans.

It is bad enough when unelected judges create non-existing “rights” and reinterpret our Constitution to satisfy a small, disordered minority…but to have “in-your-face” celebratory “victory” displays on public buildings and in Disneyland, the ultimate family entertainment center…is beyond offensive…it is disgusting. :mad:
 
Whether these displays were preplanned or not is important. The fact is that these displays on the White House, property of the people of the United States, and the most famous amusement park in the world…offended millions of Americans.

It is bad enough when unelected judges create non-existing “rights” and reinterpret our Constitution to satisfy a small, disordered minority…but to have “in-your-face” celebratory “victory” displays on public buildings and in Disneyland, the ultimate family entertainment center…is beyond offensive…it is disgusting. :mad:
It is a slap in the face. Tools have no business having opinions. The “government” should keep its mouth shut and stand at attention to the American people.
 
No decisions, especially controversial ones…:confused:
The president may be a “tool” of the citizenry, but his rights of free speech and free expression do not disappear once he steps into the White House.

No president has ever not had opinions about controversial decisions and subjects (cf. “The Bully Pulpit”, “The Fireside Chat”).
 
The president may be a “tool” of the citizenry, but his rights of free speech and free expression do not disappear once he steps into the White House.

No president has ever not had opinions about controversial decisions and subjects.
He is free to have his opinion, but that was NOT his house to be celebrating with. That house belongs to the American people and he just used our house to tell half the country to “suck it”. Can I come do that to your house?
 
I guess a “traditional marriage” lighting scheme is out of the question, then.

It’s not just a color scheme, it’s a symbol. Semiotics is very important, and the neglect of it cost the traditional marriage crowd dearly.
There has not been a need for a traditional marriage lighting scheme or symbol because we, not one of us, should be identified by our sexual orientation.
 
Whether these displays were preplanned or not is important. The fact is that these displays on the White House, property of the people of the United States, and the most famous amusement park in the world…offended millions of Americans.

It is bad enough when unelected judges create non-existing “rights” and reinterpret our Constitution to satisfy a small, disordered minority…but to have “in-your-face” celebratory “victory” displays on public buildings and in Disneyland, the ultimate family entertainment center…is beyond offensive…it is disgusting. :mad:
Well said.

Regarding the lights at Disneyland, I think that old Walt Disney would have been appalled at what has become of his theme park. I, for one, won’t be visiting Disneyland again. There are other family theme parks, such as Silver Dollar City in Missouri. Okay…it’s like Disneyland for Hillbillies, but it’s fun (I’ve been there), and the family who owns it is Christian (Protestant, I think):

cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2010/December/Silver-Dollar-Family-Strikes-Gold-with-Godly-Values-/
 
He is free to have his opinion, but that was NOT his house to be celebrating with. That house belongs to the American people and he just used our house to tell half the country to “suck it”. Can I come do that to your house?
So, your thesis is that, rather than celebrating the granting of civil rights to millions of American citizens, the ultimate motive behind the showing of the lights was an aggressive measure against millions of American citizens?

If “SUCK IT” had been shone in flashing lights, I might see your point; however, if people are offended by an otherwise content-free light show, then is it *his *fault?
 
Well said.

Regarding the lights at Disneyland, I think that old Walt Disney would have been appalled at what has become of his theme park. I, for one, won’t be visiting Disneyland again. There are other family theme parks, such as Silver Dollar City in Missouri. Okay…it’s like Disneyland for Hillbillies, but it’s fun (I’ve been there), and the family who owns it is Christian (Protestant, I think):

cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2010/December/Silver-Dollar-Family-Strikes-Gold-with-Godly-Values-/
I probably wouldn’t hold up Disney as a paragon of virtue…

independent.co.uk/news/people/news/walt-disneys-grandniece-backs-up-meryl-streeps-racism-claims-antisemite-check-misogynist-of-course-9064138.html
 
So, your thesis is that, rather than celebrating the granting of civil rights to millions of American citizens, the ultimate motive behind the showing of the lights was an aggressive measure against millions of American citizens?

If “SUCK IT” had been shone in flashing lights, I might see your point; however, ff people are offended by an otherwise content-free light show, then is it *his *fault?
First off marriage is not a civil right for anyone. You will find zero mention of marriage anywhere in the consitution. Using the 14th for creating this right is insane. Last time I checked I don’t have equal protection to arms across every state and that is a right enumerated in the constitution.

Second, the president is very much aware that millions of Americans would take offense. I strongly suspect that he hacked off more than he pleased. SSM support is only (barely) a majority opinion if you include soft support (i.e. I don’t care one way or another). There are more people who strongly oppose SSM then strongly support it.
 
They are not of equal importance. Not even close.
I said they are both important, not of equal importance.

It would be very close if the White House was lit up to celebrate a traditional marriage victory, don’t you think? I’m assuming you would favor a light celebration either way?

(I keep trying to wrap up this conversation with you, but as long as I’m being misquoted or called a conspiracy theorist, I guess it will continue ;))
 
Paragon of virtue? Hardly. But he did care very much about his image as being that having ‘family values.’ I grew up in the '60’s watching the Disney hour on Sundays, and loved those films. Whatever his personal views on certain issues, he did get a few things right.

Disney came from having suffered from an abusive childhood, and strived to overcome it by trying to make a happy place for children. I’m pretty sure that he would not have supported SSM. I could be wrong.
 
The conspiracy theory is that the SCOTUS ruling must have been leaked to the WH and Disney World (:confused:) in order for these light displays to be put up the same day. A number of other possibilities exist: lighting specialists had lights on hand, the court was expected to rule as it did so these entities were prepared… Not all conspiracy theories are faulty, mind you. But you and others have provided ZERO evidence to support yours – and no, a head scratch and disdain for both the ruling and light displays don’t count.

What’s baffling is that folks care this much about light displays rather than focusing on the actual outcome of the ruling.
I would think that whoever went to purchase the materials, considering what they are celebrating, did not get confused and just buy all bulbs or just buy all sockets thinking that it would work either way.🤷

Hey, just sayen.
 
First off marriage is not a civil right for anyone. You will find zero mention of marriage anywhere in the consitution. Using the 14th for creating this right is insane…
But the right now exists, doesn’t it? You can say what you *believe *the Constitution says or does not say, but as of Friday, for all practical purposes, it exists, no?
Second, the president is very much aware that millions of Americans would take offense. I strongly suspect that he hacked off more than he pleased. SSM support is only (barely) a majority opinion if you include soft support (i.e. I don’t care one way or another). There are more people who strongly oppose SSM then strongly support it.
But still, if people are offended, then how is that his problem? He can’t control the offense people take in him. People show offense over everything the President does and says; people show offense over his very legitimacy, which is how the whole birther insanity started up. Part of the reason he’s lasted so long is that he’s never shown any concern over this type of offense before; why would he start now?
 
Disneyland and the White House just happened to have rainbow colored light bulbs on hand? Obviously, there was some pre-planning involved.
I thought the president was supposed to be unbiased. Silly me. 🤷
 
I said they are both important, not of equal importance.

It would be very close if the White House was lit up to celebrate a traditional marriage victory, don’t you think? I’m assuming you would favor a light celebration either way?

(I keep trying to wrap up this conversation with you, but as long as I’m being misquoted or called a conspiracy theorist, I guess it will continue ;))
Ya know, I was originally responding to someone else – so feel free to wrap it up whenever. 😉
 
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